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Ohm Walsh Micro Talls: who's actually heard 'em?

Hi,

I'd love to hear the impressions of people who've actually spent some time with these speakers to share their sense of their plusses and minuses. Mapman here on Audiogon is a big fan, and has shared lots on them, but I'm wondering who else might be familiar with them.
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frazeur1
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Peter, believe me, I get your thoughts and maybe a bit of frustration on the way things are somewhat hap-hazardly thrown together here. This has been a subject of my ultimate frustration as well on things in the past regarding "quality of build".

I could go on about this very thing, but will not, as it doesn't do any good to harp on it, and in the end, I still think the Ohms are very good sounding speakers and maybe some of this has absolutely no bearing on sonics. I will say this, at least your can/switch/wiring/crossover assembly there do look a decent deal better than what I have witnessed in the past, for whatever that is worth.

As to the cabinet blocking part of the driver, while in theory maybe not a good idea at all, and maybe a general lack of attention to detail etc., keep in mind that most of the sound/music is being driven outwards from the cone surface and not so much down, and I doubt that there is much if any real "loss" of information due to the cabinet not being perfect. But, perfectionists to a fault maybe some of us are.

I will be interested in your electronic crossover here, as I do think utilizing active crossovers can yield some good results. Not always though, and sometimes it ends up being more complex in the end, which may be the case with the Ohms here, but worth a try!

Thanks for the pics along the way too, that to me is the most interesting part for several reasons....Will continue to watch this space!

frazeur1
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One thing I find interesting too, is that I keep hearing that the CLS tweeter/super tweeter supposedly comes in around 5-7 khz depending on what one reads. Is this really true or just here-say? I often wonder how the large main drive of the CLS could fill that frequency gap in enough to sound right. Just one of those things that makes me wonder. Again, the Ohms sound good, so who am I to question?
frazeur1
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Thanks Bond for sharing your experience with the double F's. If nothing else it must have been fun to actually see them and witness them working, even if not the most ideal. Also, thanks for the info on the CLS tweeter crossover point, it really isn't too important for me to know, just my own musings or thoughts about it all. 

While I claim no expertise on how Peter mic'ed and set up his frequency sweep, weighting, scaling and all that, it does look to me like the output of the main driver while reaching that 2.5 kHz figure and beyond, it would appear it is a good deal down in db/output. It would be interesting to see an accurate sweep of both main driver and tweeter just to get an idea as a wholistic snap shot. Again, I apologize for my ignorance on what I may or may not be seeing here!

In the end though, it matters not how it measures, or how cheap the drivers or parts are, or how crummy it all may be put together overall, if it sounds good, then it is good! Just goes to show you how much can be rung out of these parts and build if one knows what they are doing! Anyway, again, just my own simple minded thoughts here! 

Thanks Peter for your sharing too! Appreciate your time and efforts! 

frazeur1
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tuthman, this is a very simple and fairly quick response. Ohms and the Pendragon are very different in design and sound, not an apples to apples thing.

I will say that Ohms work wonderfully in a home theater type setup(As well as 2-channel). I have used them in this situation and loved what they did.

Hopefully, you have the ability to try your Ohms in your setup, and ability to return them if you are not completely satisfied. John offers a great deal this way.

I have heard the Pendragons once, and while not my cup of tea, at least I didn't think for me at the time, I would say only your ears will tell you if either one of these, the Ohms or Pendragons are what you are looking for. Home demo is the best, your room, your gear, your ears!

frazeur1
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Be well Peter, and best wishes on your flight and most of all, your father! 

frazeur1
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Always nice to see this thread keep on chugging along, and hearing from new people trying out Ohms. Fun stuff!
frazeur1
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The old ads are good fun to look at. I don’t have an Ohm I, most of mine are Walsh series stuff. Keep watching the Bay, quite a few come up of various Ohm every now and then. Have to admit though, not sure I have seen one on the I Model....
frazeur1
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leahy, like has been suggested, talk with John at Ohm, give him as much detail as you can on your room size, shape, and what you want to accomplish with your system. He will steer you right between the choices, and how well any of them will work. 

I would be inclined to say MWT’s could work very well, and they really do have very respectable bass. The 1000 improves on the bass end even more so, but depending on placement may prove too much potentially. But all that is my own thoughts at the moment. Ask the one who will know. 

I think your current system with the Naim and Totem(I used a Naim Uniti with MW T’s for awhile) is a good one, if it works well, sometimes it may be difficult to upset things, but with Ohm’s very generous trial period, certainly worth a try, I say go for it. As Map stated, the MWT abd Arro are very similar in size, the Ohm being a bit taller maybe, but that is where the comparisons will end, they both do a bit different things sound wise of course. 

Have fun, enjoy the music either way! Tim
frazeur1
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Map, like you, I too would prefer the Omni approach, giving nod to the MWT over the Arro, however it is certainly horses for courses. 

I have not lived with Arro either, the MWT I have, so hard to say. As to which one is most detailed, that too a tough call, as presentation and perspective kind of differs a bit. One may perceive the Arro as the more detailed as the sound is thrown directly at you, the MWT more diffuse-although I really somewhat hate that term, as it always seems to be applied to all omnis in general, one in which I feel is wrong a lot of the time....

Either one though is a nice speaker in its own right. 
frazeur1
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Yes it was. Funny. Full circle after how many years? Hah. 
frazeur1
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Map, I have always loved your 5000’s, they look fantastic, and I am sure likewise on the sound! 
frazeur1
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Indeed! I have always liked the older “F” cabinets redone like yours with upgraded drivers. They just look right to me. Classic, timeless to me! 
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