Nightmare

Oh my gosh,,,, a room 8x16 by 8ft ceiling ht is a perfect diaster... you can't get any worst.. Those room demensions are about as disasterious as it can possibly get... I wouldn't be planning on spending too much money on a system for that room... Look at all the common denominators that go into each demension.. Yes in deed,,, that is a nighmare.. Don't use that room... find a better room or think about buying a different house... You better take a crash course on "ROOM ACOUSTICS" before thinking about setting up your stereo in a room that measures 8x16x8.... you just can't get any more worst than that for AUDIO SOUND... THAT ROOM IS AS BAD AS IT GETS... I HAVEN'T BEEN UP HERE ON THESE BOARDS IN A LONG TIME... ARE THESE THE TYPES OF POST THE DISCUSSION AREA GETS NOW???? POOR POOR QUALITY AUDIO MUST BE DIEING JUST LIKE QUALITY MUSIC HAS... ITS A NEW DAWN... DOESN'T ANYONE DO ANY RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN ANYMORE? PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY A 8FT X 16FT X 8FT ROOM IS DISASTERIOUS FOR A GOOD LEVEL FREQ RESPONSE,,, WHY THE BASS WILL BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET RIGHT.. WHY NO EXPERIENCED KNOWLEDGABLE AUDIOPHILE WOULD NOT EVEN CONCIDER USING THAT ROOM FOR A QUALITY SOUND.. DIPS AND BUMPS AND SUCK OUTS AND CANCELLATIONS, MISSING OCTAVES ETC,,, JUST DISASTERIOUS... PLAN ON USING A GOOD EQ IN THAT ROOM... THAT ROOM IS NO GOOD FOR PLANNING A SOUND SYSTEM

well. here is my opinion.... the room dimensions are bad...but not really that bad. really bad would be a perfect cube

you should be able to amke it work. your martin logans are dipoles so you can place them fairly close to the sidewalls. the back and forth distance is used to reinforce /cancel the backwave. so your front back is going to critical in the setup as well as your listening position.

in regards to the audio physic... humm... i would try to make the ml's work first. i have ap libra's and yes you can sit close to them, they are designed for near field listening HOWEVER, they are very sensitive to side wall placement due to side firing woofers.

i i would research a "lede" live end/dead end room acoustic design and go from there.

good luck,

mike

Sorry to rain on a parade, but I have Aerius i's as well and the manual clearly states that the best side wall for these speakers is no side wall at all! This has been proven to me many times over. My RF has no side wall but the LF does. I have stopped a movie several times to investigate a noise at my back door (on the right 35 feet away) which was actually a sound effect from the sound track.

ML's need to breathe but you already know that....

You might want to try setting up the speakers on the diagonal as discussed in this paper:

http://www.decware.com/paper14.htm

It worked wonders for me in my "Borg-ish" room (10'x11'x9'4" - approximately)...

My adventures are noted in AA... you can check here for a start:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=speakers&n=147876&highlight=diagonal+deecee&r=&session=

Good Luck!
- DeeCee

Deecee has a good point. It's kinda like Fung Swei for audio. But, seriously, it's time to lose the 'stats. Time to try some real-world mini monitors with a kick-butt tube amp. You'll have a lot more fun in your little grotto.