New Tweak --- Its Fantastic
shadorne sez:
Would a ’soft metal gold contact’ eliminate micro arcing? slaw sez:
Why in the world would Tim Mrock give up the formula for his binder in a pubic forum? Only a fool would do that ... and Tim isn’t anyone’s fool. Not by a long shot. Frank |
I predict that "slaw" will become one of the most positive advocates of Total Contact. Who here likes chamber music? I was listening to this with my morning coffee. With the entire system now pasted with the latest incarnation of TC, the musicians were spread all the way across the sound stage beyond the left and right speaker. The sound stage was in three dimensional relief with each player in their own space. A bit uncanny, if you ask me. I’m a big fan of Harmonia Mundi recordings. This one is really good. Highly recommended. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Boccherini-Quintets-CD-Jun-1990-Harmonia-Mundi-Distributor/192346597153?epi... Frank |
slaw ... Read the following : Slaw, here was your first question in the thread. It appears on page one:
Here's my answer on page 2: I tried the SR Black and the SR Blue fuses without the "Total Contact," and with it. With it was clearly the better option. Like the other applications to power cords and IC's for example, the results are the same type of improvement in SQ. So go ahead ... paste the end caps of your fuses and you'll get an improvement there also. Another one of your statements:
How was I supposed to take that, slaw?
My answer: You're getting 1.5ml ... enough to do a large system plus video. Save the rest or share with a friend. What "concerns" would you like to alleviate?
Why what would be tested, shaw?
Have you found any negative statements in the initial "roll out" post on page one?
Again ... read the initial post on page one. Find the negatives. Thanks ... How are you being "dismissed again?" No one is "dissing" you. All of your questions have been answered in a positive manner. What you are reading into the answers is beyond me. And finally, your last statement:
Uh-huh? What? For the third time ... there are NO commissions involved. And I'm not offended ... but you seem to be in a perpetual uptightedness situation. What's troubling you, shaw? <Sheesh!> man, let it go ... buy the product when you're able and enjoy the results. Frank |
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Here we go again. Slaw ... read the entire text from my opening post on page one to this post here. I have clearly stated that I am not a principle in the organization, nor had I anything to do with the development of the product. I’m just a fellow audiophile who was lucky enough to be chosen by Tim Mrock to be one of his beta testers. I was/am so taken by the product that I enthusiastically presented it here, only to be personally attacked, called a shill, intimated that I was dishonest, a liar, etc. Again, anything negative that came from my keyboard was in self defense and the defense of a small businessman trying to get his new product into production and consumer use in the face of a few here who were obviously out to destroy him. You seem to have a negative attitude toward commissioned salespeople, slaw. If that’s the case, why? I’d love to have that conversation with you ... You’ve taken issue with the way the product was "rolled out." Again, read my initial post on page one of this thread and point out any negatives you see. Thanks ... And speaking of Harmonia Mundi recordings, here’s a real winner: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rossini-Chiu-Peches-de-Vieilesse-Harmonia-Mundi-France-Like-New/26209250699... Solo piano that is right there in the room with you .... if you have a highly resolving system. Frank |
Tim ... Evidently there is no appeasing this person. I just spent a half hour chronicling all discussions held between me and slaw in this thread. So far he has given no concrete answers on where he was treated with disrespect, other than to say that I didn't answer a question he had posed in a completely different thread. There are folks in this world who, if they had both legs cut off ... would still kick. Frank |
Did you read my last post where I chronicled our discussions? Please point out where I "went low." Thanks ... I see, slaw. So it was something I DIDN’T say? Could it be slaw, that I just didn’t see your question? Very nice slaw. Thank you. Frank |
slaw sez: Nope, you're no push over ... even when no one is trying to push you over. I'd say that the chances of you "trying" TC "at some point," is between slim and none ... and has been from the very beginning. People like you, slaw? What type of people would that be? Try to be specific please. Thanks ... So far, you haven't pointed out any mistreatment or disrespect other than to say that I didn't answer a question you had in the Blue Fuse thread. Keep searching for the disrespect shown toward you by me, slaw. I don't think you're going to find it .... especially if the best you can do is to say that I didn't answer a question you had in an unrelated thread. Take care ... Frank |
^^^ Disproving your posts? I/we don't disapprove or approve your posts. You're just not that important, slaw.
Uh, slaw ... Who are these "other's" that are you referring to? The sales are going along quite nicely without you. So far there isn't one complaint, just amazement about the effects of the product. Are you reading the responses slaw? Have you read Steve Fleschler's comments? How about Tommylion's comments? Again slaw ... what's troubling you? Frank |
More accurately, you are on a different planet. Do you honestly believe that we are here to make you happy, slaw? I/we presented our case regarding the product and treated you with respect, and yet, you continue to whine and moan as if someone kicked your cat. Honestly, you are not that important. And you have done nothing from the beginning other than to attempt to destroy those sales. You are not making a difference, slaw. Could this be what's troubling you? Frank |
^^^^ Slaw sez: I only have one Master slaw ... and He walked the earth over 2000 years ago. Which "master" do you answer to? Actually slaw, I spent the afternoon over at Mribob’s home pasting his wonderful system with TC. Unlike you, no one has kicked my cat today, so I go on about life with a positive mental attitude. Suggest you do the same. " I was a potential customer..." No you weren’t. You’re an adversary and have been from the start. Nope, that’s not what I said. Post it if you can find it. I have the right to defend myself, do I not? Do you honestly believe that I would just sit back while a few ... a FEW naysayers try to kick my ass and then make an attempt to run Tim Mrock out of business? Mistakes? Name them. The way I rolled out then responded to others? I’ve asked you repeatedly to read the long initial post I made on page one of this thread in the "roll out" and then post what you found to be offensive. So far, nothing but crickets. Responded to others? Again, go back and reread the entire thread. I only responded negatively to the arsonists, the looters and the destroyers. They were responses to personal attacks. Again, its called self defense. What is it that you don’t get, slaw? Are you taking my responses to others personally? If so, that’s kind of weird, don’t you think?
Disrespect? I’ve tried to answer every one of your questions in a positive manner. Again, go back and read the thread from the beginning. In my humble opinion slaw, you have every right not to buy the product. Its your money and your choice. But when you try to dissuade others from buying it based upon who knows what ... considering you haven’t tried it yourself, haven’t seen it, felt it ... .well, that’s a bit weird too. Guess what slaw, I don’t care if you buy the product or not. Again ... you are just not that important. By the way slaw, just so you know ... Mribob’s system was sounding better than ever when I left his home. His Venture speakers are fantastic. The TC left his bass sounding very articulate, full and organically natural. He made the comment that its the best mid-range he’s had so far. Considering his system, that’s saying a ton. Its only going to continue to get better from here on as his TC cures. But see slaw, you won’t be having that experience with your system because your nose is so far out of joint worrying about what other people think about you, coupled with an inordinate fear of being taken advantage of, that you would cut off your nose to spite your face by not buying and/or experiencing the product. Too bad for you, I’d say. Have a great evening slaw ... Frank |
^^^ Norbert ...
One of the last things he said to me before I left was that he wanted to wait two weeks before posting his results, allowing the paste to cure a bit.
Read Steve Fleschler's and Tommylion's comments. They are in this thread. You can be assured that there will be many more positive comments coming. The product is THAT good. Frank |
Geoffkait sez:
You have described my experience with my rear projection 73" Mitsubishi TV. Better blacks, sharper picture, better colors ... almost a 3-D experience. "Super duper" indeed. Frank |
^^^ We tweak to solve problems that are inherent in audio playback systems. Trying to eliminate micro vibrations is one of the main things that smear sound. There are tweaks to take care of that. Remember, we are tweaking the playback end and not the recording end. Why so expensive? Supply and demand in some cases. Trying to recover cost incurred during R&R maybe. Frank |
Tommylion ... This is the one to get. Its an excellent transfer from one of the Westminster tapes. Excellent sound and performance. The seller is a little steep on the price, but its one that will stay in your collection for sure. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ERICA-MORINI-BRAHMS-TCHAIKOVSKY-VIOLIN-CONCERTOS-NEW-FREE-SHIPPiNG/30260071... Frank |
Tommylion sez:
Tommy ... Not only is your system sounding great these days, but you and your wife have excellent taste in music. :-) Do you have anything by Erica Morini? Her Tchaikovsky violin concerto is really, really good. Check her out: https://www.ebay.com/sch/CDs/176984/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=erica+morini Frank |
Here's the link to purchase Total Contact: https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis8e2a4-perfect-path-technologies-total-contact-electrical-contac... Frank |
Total Contact dulls nothing. None of the three versions I beta tested dulled anything at all. In fact, the highs were improved right along with everything else. The final version, the one that is for sale, is the smoothest and best sounding of the three. Just a simple question for the "scientists" and the "electricians" with PHD's in these various sciences: If one eliminates micro arcing in a circuit panel by "pasting" each switch's contact points with TC, therefore enhancing the contact points, how does that create a fire hazard? Inquiring minds want to know. Electricity is electricity. After a year of trials with TC, so far none of my audio equipment has gone up in smoke. Just way more efficient in operation. Tim ... how many panels have you done to date? As a result, how many Nagasaki's and Hiroshima's have you created? Frank |
Mribob ... Thanks for the kind words. I enjoyed the time spent with you and your music system. There's lots left to do in order for you to appreciate what TC can do. Power cords, fuse ends, TV cable box, DVD player ... and any other connection you can find. And boy, was that scotch delicious! :-) Frank |
yping ... You had a question regarding the comparison of what the Mad Scientist is offering in his graphene contact solution vs TC. I haven't tried the MS product, but there are plenty of reviews on the web. Based upon the reviews I've read, MS is oil based and is really messy. There are a couple of good reviews, but mostly the improvement gained was marginal. That's not the case with TC. Because of its unique binder, it goes on in paste form, is not messy ... and offers amazing results. The old adage is still true ... "You get what you pay for." Frank |
Slaw sez ...
Slaw ... go back to page one and read the thread from the beginning. And since when have you been "willing to be incorrect?" Frank |
slaw sez:
Grudge? Not me Junior ... I just call 'em as I see 'em. Go back and re-read all of your negative posts in this thread from the beginning, slaw ... then tell us how trying your best to derail the new product has failed. Utterly failed. Tell us how sorry you are, slaw. Then after that, apologize to Tim about your destructive behavior. That's what a REAL man would do, slaw. For the life of me slaw, I cannot imagine why you continue to return to this thread, other than to continue to interject your negative BS ... especially in consideration of all of the very positive reviews starting to come in. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By the way ... for the positive thinkers ... Grover modified a Pioneer Elite DVD player for me a couple of weeks ago. New caps and a beefed up power supply. I've been using it as a CD player. This is one hell of a player. It was treated with TC upon bringing it home two weeks ago. Had to get an adapter so it would accept the SR power cord. Robert came over for a listening session last night and commented on how much more coherent everything was compared to when he listened last, three nights ago. I attributed it to the TC starting to set. I only pasted the power cord and the IC's. A fantastic product. Frank |
slaw sez:
yping stated the problem very well with these two thoughts:
Slaw ... Its one thing to have an honest opinion and to have doubts, and another to constantly deride a product and anyone who promotes it by hurling personal attacks. Until you’ve tried the product for yourself, in your own system, you have no legs to stand on and no credibility to fall back on. Why do you continue to come into this thread? Are you lacking in social graces? Missing a filter? Asperger's perchance? And by the way, slaw ... it doesn’t bother me either way if you buy the product or not. The only one losing here is you. It is what it is ... a fantastic product that enhances the performance of audio/video systems beyond where they were before in a very special way. Something that you won’t discover or enjoy because you’ve allowed your nose to get so far out of joint. Again, the only time I have ever gone on the offensive here is when I’ve been attacked, or whenever this fine product has been attacked with verbiage like "snake oil." "goop," "scam" ... ect. Other than that, I’m a very mellow guy. In the future, if you don’t want to be called out for the negative naysayer that you are, try to be a little more civil in your discourse. Reread yping’s last post in its entirety for a hint on how to act while around adults. Frank |
Ozzy ... When Tim first contacted me with the proposal of becoming a beta tester, I was very reluctant based upon previous experiences with products like Quick Sliver. You’re right, they did dry, were difficult to remove and eventually degraded the sound. Total Contact is different ... in fact, apples and oranges. If you remember, the first batch, which you had, had little black specks of graphene in it that could be seen by the naked eye. The second batch less so. The third and final formula that is for sale now, and what is presently used in my system and those of my friends, is a completely smooth blend that applies in a thin, even coating. None of the versions, including the first one that you had, caused any dulling of highs in my system, but that could have been system related. I would encourage you to try the final version of TC. Its an amazing product. I keep finding new contacts to paste and there is an improvement each time I do. Frank |
shadorne sez:
So answer this, shadorne, ... once "proof" that qualified electricians did the panels for Tim, and all doubt of the "danger" of TC is removed, and you no longer have anymore doubts ... WILL YOU BE BUYING THE PRODUCT? Frank |
ronrrags ... I have applied TC to my tube pins for a nice improvement. Use caution though, Paste only 1/4 to 1/2 of the way up the tube pins to avoid a short across the bottom (glass) of the tube. Reinserting the tube in the socket should be enough pressure to push the TC up further onto the pin. Frank |
willgolf ... Howdy, willgolf ..
Paste the plug on your Epson projector. Any other electrical connection you can get to on the rest of your video system as well. I did most of my rear projection TV and the picture is definitely improved. I had to make some adjustments in color, brightness, etc., but it was worth the effort. I’m getting somewhat of a 3-D presentation now. Must be the added detail. The Superbowl looked mighty fine. You don’t have to wait for anything to dry or cure to plug back in. You’ll have a different perspective once you start using TC. Its not a liquid. Its more like a very thin paste that ends up looking like you used a very soft pencil to paint the connector surfaces. Just a little dab will do ya. :-) Frank |
Ozzie ... I’d be very interested in knowing exactly how and where you applied your first beta sample. I know that some tweaks are system dependent, but to go from rave reviews from almost everyone whose tried it, to, in your case, hearing no improvement at all seems like a stretch to me. With the system you have, Ozzie, you should be able to hear the effects of the slightest change. How did you apply the TC and the MS products? What did you apply them to? How long did you leave the TC on? Did you notice any degrading of the sound due to either product? Not doubting you here Ozzie, just wondering what went wrong if anything. Frank |
^^^ Nope, no damage control. Its just that so far, there has been nothing but excellent reviews from those who have taken the plunge and bought the product. I'm figuring that something wasn't right in the way Ozzie used the product. I'd like to help him. Why? Because TC is too good of a product for Ozzie and others not to be enjoying it, By the way George, you got a small sample to try out. What was your experience? Frank |
Ozzy ... I can't account for the "loss of life" in your system. It was just the opposite here. You say that perhaps you applied too much. It should have gone on as a very thin coating using just a small dab on the tip of a small brush ... and then spread out onto the connection. You said that you tried both the TC and the MS products. Which one did you try first? If it was the MS product, were you careful to get all of the oil off before applying the TC? How long did you let the TC stay in the system before you removed it? Reason I ask is that in the past I've tried various tweaks where I thought the highs were rolled off a bit. After listening for awhile, I realized that what happened was a dramatic drop in the noise floor, along with a drop in what could be called distortion sizzle. The highs were still there in spades but without the white noise distortion that I mistook for part of the highs. Frank |
^^^ Ozzy ... Well, its not a perfect world I guess. At this point, I really don't know what to say. Getting a small amount to do the ends of your fuses would seem a moot point to me, Ozzy. I mean, if you've done your entire system and evaluated the product for three months and only heard a dulling of the sound, I don't suppose you'd hear what pasting the ends of fuses would do for you either. In the meantime, there has been real progress in my system as new uses for TC are found in our ongoing experiments. TC has brought my system to levels only wished for before. The realism is uncanny. Frank |
^^^ I’ve had some connections (speaker cable - bi wired) pasted with the original beta testing version of TC for a year now with no obvious degradation in sound. On the contrary, everything seems to continue to improve. Most of the system is pasted with the version of TC that is presently being sold. It was the final version and is much smoother than the original two versions, each of which was smoother and more refined than that which came before. Yesterday, I decided to take another chance with the tube pins in the line stage. (ARC REF-3). So far, no issues. The original beta testing product was a bit chunky in that you could see little flecks of graphene in the product. I had a problem with that version and the tube pins. I’m hoping that the smoother final product will eliminate any problems with tube pins. Oddly enough, I did the cartridge pins with the original TC and so far, not one problem at all. No problem on tube pins in other equipment either ... only with the line stage. As stated before, there is a real jump in SQ at 4 weeks and especially at 8 weeks. It may be system dependent, but both Tim, I, and others have have experienced this phenomenon big time, and at 8 weeks the clarity becomes uncanny with realism. We all know what "see through" quality means in this hobby ... but this is "see through" on steroids. I am really looking forward to the point where you guys get to experience this. Some of you are getting close to the 4 week period. PLEASE, if you experience what we have experienced with TC when you reach this time point ... post your experiences here. Thanks ... Frank |
^^^ I haven’t heard any "expectation bias" regarding TC. I have, however, heard a ton of UNexpectation bias though ... all from those who haven’t seen the product, touched the product, heard the product or used the product. :-) If I heard the same piece of music ten times, then had someone apply TC to my speaker cables, I’m positive I would hear the difference ....and I’m no fried chicken either. Frank |
