New Maplenoll Ariadne owner needing advice


I have recently purchased a maplenoll ariadne. I have tried to learn a little about the table but find very little information. I know the table was discontinued in the 90's but the little i have found indicated it is a very good table. I am interested to learn if there are any tricks or problems to optimizing this table. As most of you probably know, it is an air bearing platter and tonearm. I plan on putting my zxy airy 3 on the arm once I get it set up.
oilmanmojo

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Tom, Is it possible that the old set of plates with warp be corrected and trued ?
I'm putting a TT stand on a wall; the 'Noll is on hold for a couple more days(I hope).

I'm applying the suggestions/ideas contained in the book "Get Better Sound" to the basement audio room. Smith has the knowledge to set-up any system in any room: He is a mind bender. While he does not recommend reading his book in the traditional way, cover to cover , I couldn't put down. Check out the web site www.getbettersound.com for info.
Another side-trip. I am refirbishing a large Townshend Sink that will sit between the stand and the 'Noll. The wall stand is up and secure. Dan Meinwald of "Sound Advice" in Long Beach, Calf. is the Townshend go-to-guy. He kindly provided me with all the information I need to complete the Sink project. Thanks Dan for your advice !
Tom, I have a feeling you will be sucessful. I look forward to viewing some shots of the plates when they have been refirbished. All the best.
Oilman , Try Meguiars "Quik" interior detailer on all parts I formerly recommended. Lightyears ahead. Makes the 'Noll float & glide like never before. Silkey feel especially the edges of the bearing plates. Very quite operation. All from a spray or two of Meguiars. Just spray & gently polish with any lint-free cloth.
Update: Another round of tests of the electrical system & air control system have been completed. No leaks and all are fuctioning at or beyond my expectations. The tonearm is operating with a silky feel; the air bearings spin as never before. No one I approached had any interest in developing a retro-fit of the air bearing plates so I'm stuck with the center pin system. Because of that, the free spin rate has limits unless that technical issue can be resolved. 8" diameter is just that not 11". Perhaps I am within "shouting distance or less" to the mega-buck spin rates but limitations to do with the initial air bearing design will await to be conquered by another. The rebalancing of the lead platter increases the spin rate at the cost of a ounce or so of lead: No big deal. I feel assured the spin rate is greater now than when Ari was "stock" 'Noll.

The re-painting of the exterior air manifold and several selected parts improves the over-all finish & look. I have a feeling that when one views those pics , the black-on-white or the black-on-grey specks ,era will be replaced with professional re-painting.

This 'Noll has been inspected; cleaned , damped , sanded , balanced, parts replaced or re-manufactured , re-wired & polished as required. The table has had a complete make-over from the-inside-out.

The above was accomplished after collecting 20+years of reviews , comments, interviews and DIY suggestions: Reading and re-reading applying every useful suggestion I could gleam from the written page. And, may I say judgement calls by yours truly.

Soon I will know if all of this was worth the effort. I won't hold back whatever the outcome.
Oilmanmojo : At this jucture all that is left is to re-arrange the audio room , no small task. I'm applying Jim Smith's techniques from "Get Better Sound", to extract as much from the room as possible.

All my gear has been checked out by Eric Falkenham (410-467-3620). Eric is a former trouble shooter for Westinghouse's Airport Unit. This man knows tubes and tube circuits. Without Eric I would have gotten out of tube equipment , with him I'll keep on truck'in.

Things are starting to come together. As an aside I can't believe what a difference foam damping tape made on noise levels of the inboard motor. The stuff was forwarded by the G&E Company. I have a couple of other places I want to apply the tape. So far a vibration killer.
O: Forward your home address via email & I'll send you some. Cheers, Charlie
The tape is a high quality , micro-spore 3/8" w/ sticky on one side. The interesting feature is that it can be depressed into the smallest spaces and dampens better than any other tape product I know. What I did was cut off enought to wrap around the motor using popcicle sticks to position the tape in the motor cut out with the sticky side out . Just amazing what it did for motor noise. I wraped the tri-mount sides even a greater reduction. I hope that it will work for you as it has for me.
I just completed the Towshend project days / weeks ahead of schedule . Dan was taken back. For my fellow AG'ers I am willing to detail the refirb project provided I recieve 5 emails of interest. My sink was an early unit . Many are out there teetering on the brink or in closets. I understand there operation & I am willing to start a new thread on there repair . Dan is a world class expert on all sinks and even he had not thought of the manner in which I referbed mine. Should I not receive 5 emails requesting a thread , that's ok I'll keep the information to my self. Your email is a vote. Let me know.
Well, at least one of you is interested ... Ok I'll start a new thread on the Townshend Sink refirb project soon.
A little math is in order. Now, my tonearm wireing is too short to connect to my Preamp from its new location. RATS ! Twice over. I just luged out 31 ga. 9x9 copper via Nisson Japan, I scored 20 years ago. Back to work...
Thank goodness for "rats". Rather than another tear down , I relied on suggestions contained in Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound". I then repositioned the Table just outside of the room where it sits atop a refirbished Townshend Turntable Sink that sits upon a Target Wall Stand. The equipment rack was re-aligned to sit side by side facing into the Listening Room. Next to the equipment rack sits a solid oak shirt & tie cabinet that's been converted to hold audio supplies. The SP 10 MKI (late edition) controller sits atop a 4x15x18" maple block, over the top shelf of the Target Stand that comes with a spiked underside that itself rests on solid brass inverted cups to seat the 4 spikes in the cross-member of the 5 shelf stand itself that has been modified with a special dampner to suppress "ringing" without destroying the harmonic decay inherient in the stands. Each shelf is lightly dampted in the corners as are all spikes in the set-up. The Target Stand sits upon a Karastan carpet square (@$50 per yd. retail) , as does the supply cabinet. I scored the squares from a local carpet shop all bound for a handshake. Sometimes "Rats" are good.
Oilmanmojo: Many thanks for the information. I hope wrote clearly on the set-up. Smith recommends several ideas that I incorperated into the room that is far from done. I highly recommend his book. My "rats" take was my version of "lemons make lemonaide". Charlie