My soundstage is terrible. i need help bad.


Ok i have the following pieces. Pioneer 39tx a/v reciever. I have Psb stratus silver i speakers, allantis biwire speaker cables. Tara labs vector 2 i/c. And a large subsonic 5 subwoofer. rarely used. I have little to no soundstage at all. almost sounds like a 5yrs old boom box. i dont understand which direction to go. I am going to be getting some psb stratus gold speakers here in the next 2 weeks from a buddy and im trying to get things straightened out before the new arrivals. do you think going to the better speakers will help or is it that i have everything setup wrong in the house. Cathedral ceiling home. Equipment set up on the highest wall. 26ft. and the seating postions at the lowest around 12ft about 4ft from the back wall. Im just confused on wehere to strart. My kitchen has to open doors to the right if ur sitting in my seating postion. I dont think the room is ever going to be able to give me what i want at any price. I just need some help on setup. lmk what you think i should do first. aprreciate all the info guys. this site rules. Kevin
flyin2jz
Speaker positioning is important . You did not state where they are located in relation to the walls etc.

Try setting them up 5 or 6 feet out into the room away from the wall that is behind them . Also get them a few feet away from the side walls .

A good place to start is to set them up in an equal lateral triangle in relation to themselves and your listening position . Something like 8 feet apart and 8 feet from your listening position . Then have them aimed at your head when you are in the listening position . These measurements are just a 'for instance'. The actual measurements will be dictated by the size of your room . And don't have anything behind or between the speakers like a TV or equipment rack .

See what this initial setup does for the soundstage . You can then play with the positioning for better sound , especially the amount of toe in , or how much the speakers are or are not pointed toward your head . A small laser pointer is quite handy for this . It has been my experience that speaker positioning has the most to do with soundstaging .

Once you read up on room treatments you can play around with them at little or no cost by using blankets , coats , pillows , rugs etc.

I don't know your speakers but they seem to have a pretty good reputation . I would look for a different source of amplification if it were me . If you are just 2 channel music look for an integrated amplifier . If you want multi channel music or H/T see if you can move up to a better H/T receiver or maybe seperates . If you buy used you should be able to do these upgrades for not a bunch of money as compared to your receiver .

Speaker positioning is a pain ! But it is real cheap and can be quite rewarding !

Good luck .
You need to upgrade your receiver. Try a good integrated. If you want sound stage then search/buy equipment that is know for that trait. Add a tube dac to your front end.
Well i was speaking with a friend on here and i was telling him about my issues. I have a pioneer elite hdtv big screen in between the speakers. the speakers are basically beside the tv not out in front at all. THe cd player is for now a dv37 pioneer elite dvd/cd player. 24/96 player. I have a nad c541 coming as we speak. I know that i have lower end stuff but i guess i expected too much. the speakers are about 3ft maybe a little less from the back walls. thanx for any help. Kevin
The big screen is a problem indeed. Bringing the speakers out may help. I see a plasma TV and a NAD integrated in your future.
Flyin2jz, I'm offering a contrarian opinion: there is nothing wrong with your amplification and cd playback. Don't worry about it being "low-end". All the money in your bank account being spent on replacing that gear will not resolve the problem you are having.

"Soundstage" usually refers to the ability of a system to create the illusion that real musicians are in the room. The speakers need to "disappear". It's my opinion that those PSB speakers will not disappear: their conventional design fights against that happening. Point-source omni-directional speakers would be a better candidate.

Also, as pointed out by photon46, you need to do some dampening in the room: tame reflecting surfaces. You don't have to spend a lot of $ to do this.

Do what you can with the listening environment, and strongly consider replacing the speakers.