Sorry WC, my wife strongly recommend I may not comment about others Teaktons.
Since I’m really addicted to her spaghetti sauce, I can’t comment on those huge Teaktons in your room.
( My lawyer also recommends this for my financial future sake). |
I had a dream also.
Teaktons everywhere. Don’t tell her. 😂 |
Wrong, it’s easy to hear the Boulder combo superiority on the yt videos. You need good headphones for this to show.
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Going through the videos again, this time at my friends house through his very revealing Raidhos.
Sorry, the Boulder combo eats the Gryphon combo alive. We both agreed on this obvious fact.
I don’t know how some of you guys are listening to this, but clearly either you are biased to Gryphon either your system doesn’t show the differences... |
Powercells are useful in USA , specially in Florida where AC wall power is far for being clean.
Here in Montreal Canada, we get ultra clean AC generated by hydro turbines...
Powercells are overkill in these regions. |
Wow.
This Boulder combo sound so much better than the Gryphon one.
Audiophile acoustic music in your last yt video shows this plainly. |
Dynamics and tonal density, involvement and soul, bass, all seems better on the Boulder. |
It’s obviously not up to the Boulder preamp.
But the Ayre is better built than the Gryphon Pandora (overpriced ). |
+1 thieliste , I always said the Gryphon Pandora was mew and basically overpriced. Gryphon is and will ever be essentially a class A overbuilt amplifier maker.
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We know.
We’ve come to understand this thread is not about which one to keep anymore.
As long as it finds another home... |
Mephisto needs 2 powercords, as it is basically 2 mono amplifiers glued together. |
When you get at the top of the ladder, the only way is down.
So the key to keeping the story alive is WC trying more affordable gear like he did with the Tektons.
Because WC has solid experience with reference system and brands, he can now tell his audience how other less expensive products compare. |
Sometime, vibrations on gear has to be drained ( coupled to ground). Not damped.
That is surely why those footers don’t mix well with Boulder amps. |
Mu guess on the return of the amp.
Sim 860 or Lux M900u. |
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I’m still all over Boulder as my favorite combo. Boulder is Boulder, it’s the absolute reference for me.
Not a fan of the D’Agostino momentum in general as I much prefer the Luxmans in that kind of sound categorie ( much less expensive also). Although, I admit the Momentums look is the best of the 3. I can understand why they are popular...beautiful jewels.
(To admin, please delete my upper post, doublon error. ) |
Subs are needed with more modest speakers, standmounts in small rooms, etc.
Not with reference speakers which are made to play huge and fast bass.
Why put some much money on a reference pair of speakers that would be handicapped with weak and bad bass... |
WC, you read my last post backward.
Maybe I was not clear, I ´m on the same side. I beleive the Wilson Alexx and those kind of reference speakers don’t need subwoofers. Or whats the purpose of getting huge reference speakers if bass was compromised or lacking. |
No need to apologize.
Accepted nevertheless. ☺️ |
Please stop saying the Mephisto is a stereo amplifier.
It’s 2 mono amplifiers joined together. 2 transformers, 2 POWERCORDS.
This is not an opinion, it’s a fact.
Imagine the Boulders bolted together and replace the 2 covers with a single one Does this magically become a stereo amplifier ? Not nearly. |
It’s two monos , not one... Who said it was one mono ? Playing with words to misguide...
2 POWERCORDS...
2 monos. bolted together.
It’s not a stereo amplifier, the only thing it has in common with that is one chassis only. The rest is two mono.
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Dual mono stereo amp ——— one powercord. Dual mono amps bolted together——— two powercords. ( call it stereo if the illusion is your cup of tea) Gryphon can call it what they want, they are misguiding as it is not a typical stereo amplifier ... Gryphon is also not saying out loud you need to blow out $ for two powercords... https://gryphon-audio.dk/shop/power-amplifiers/mephisto/NOWHERE on that page they tell this to the reader, not even in the described « « pure power in power out » section. Why is Gryphon not mentioning this most important detail ? |
Sorry, 2 powercords, 2 transfo , 2 mirrors boards. That’s 2 mono (glued together ). You are wrong on this specific matter and simply won’t admit it.
2 POWERCORDS....... |
Wow, best sound yet (all your yt videos ) from the Boulder combo with the Transparent powercords. Astonishingly musical and refined. Best of the best.
My hat off for getting the Pass 60.8. We all want to know how more affordable gear compares to the reference ultra high end. |
OUCH, that Boulder combo is just littéraly destroying anything Gryphon or Dan DAG that entered this room. |
Y,
All the amps you name are subpar to the Luxman M-900u, both in build quality and sound performance.
I trust WC in saying it is among the best, as he compared it to serious amplifiers...the cream of the crop. And his tests were detailed and presented transparently. You haven’t. |
Pass cannot beat DAg M400.
Only lower priced amps than can compete is a pair of Luxman M-900u. |
Bring in a pair of B&W 800 D3. This brand has put a lot of $ in R&D over the years. |
In the meantime, waiting for B&W D4 series, you could try a pair of Spendor D9.2 if you ever get that opportunity.
Supposed to be very engaging speakers. |
inna , it was already said by WC that he would bring in more affordable gear to show and learn how it compares to the ultra reference products.
WC has experienced a lot of the cream up there, so he is best placed to tell and show how more affordable amp, preamps, and speakers compare...what are the differences ...what you give up or what you get if you go down or up the ladder. |
Just teasing you WC.
Please please show us the new speakers.
So you will do a high end integrated battle on those ? This is such a good idea. Can’t wait !!
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WC, why the M6 when you already had the M3 ? Sure, more bass, but it’s a lot of $... |
By design Alex has got 2 midrange drivers. So sure it will be better than the Alexia 2 which has only one. A completely different speaker.
With the Magico M3 , you still have premium parts all over. It’s just a matter of bass with 3 x 7 inch. woofers instead of 3 x 10 inch. A pair of M3 with 2 Rel subs makes a lot more sense to me. |
I’ve read almost everything on the Magico M3. Pretty much a consensus out there they are the one to get. |
Well the M6 is crazy money, so the M3 just make more sense imho. I sure hope it is better considering how much deeper Magico gets into the customer pocket...
Please don’t tell me the Mephisto could not drive them. Damn if that’s the case, they just make even less sense... |
Basically, you bought the Magico A5 to resale them.
Sure would be great to hear them playing but I agree you would loose in resale value. |
Edgy and artificial sounding. Where is the dynamic ?...
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So basically you are saying, the goal was to show your audience how crappy those M6 could sound.
Just kidding you WC. We can hear the highs crazy resolution. And sure the Magico M6 do sound great and have a lot of potential. |
Do the Magico M6 come in pink color ?
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I agree.
Magico is on the feminine side of things. Like the Secrets deodorant, perfect for men but made for women.
Wilsons are on the « big solid man side of things. » Old Spice deep masculine sent.
Focal is a kind of hybrid between the two others. |
Turquoise color would fit the Magico M6 féminine nature perfectly.
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I recommend roses 🌹 in the room.
They smell good, and they can absorb sound reflections.
ok guys, I stop the teasing. sometimes it’s good to relax and laugh. back on topic.
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When those are gone , WC will be at risk of having a baby postpartum depression. Just saying. 😂
I would change the room paint color if he keeps them. Fushia pink, aqua, something like it. |
Something here just happened that never happened before.
The priciest speakers to come in WC’s room and that he played on YouTube, were majoritary juged by his audience and readers as « wtf is it just me but this sound just sux the artificial » .
And then well something else happened that had never happened before. All suddenly a DEALER appeared and came on video and just made a speach about just all perfect they sound and how perfect the Pass Labs can make them sound...
Huge first here.
And then WC said that the DCS Rossini, be prepared, sounds digital. Those two where litteraly saying it’s everything around the speakers which is the culprit.
Ok now, thats another huge first..
Sometime « panic » makes us, our goal, and the ones behind us and that goal intervene big time. You know the comforting sellers voice tone and perfect words that ressuscitate the believing.. |
Suncoast audio happens to be a major Magico retailer.
That and the previous youtube video must be just coincidence I guess.
Pardon me for acknowledging this obvious publicity stunt. |
I thought the yt videos were to find about our opinions of what we hear. NOT. If we don’t like it, it’s the electronics fault and we get the retailer coming to defend and push the brand that is being criticized...
I don’t care how cool, honest, and knowing the Suncoast Audio guy is. He is singularly pushing a brand that he sells. It’s as simple as that.
WC , you don’t respect our opinions, you dont hear your viewers... |
Sorry guys, but the latest yt videos are just like all the others out there...
A retailer being interviewed by an audiophile indirectly pushing a product. Just tell me how it is any different than all the others vids ?...
Is there any moment in those vids where they talk about the product downsides ? ... No, just like any reviewer video outhere, it seems the M6 is the perfect product and if it ever sounds bad or artificial to someone that must conspicuously be the associated electronics...
What’s the purpose of asking your viewers opinions, if it never counts in the end. |
carey1110 you never seems to miss an appearance when the whole thing is just exposed...
It’s all marketing. It’s been showed naked even more with the latest yt videos and the retailer passing by ( yeah sure) pushing the Magicos after they got destroyed by the viewers...
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Still has that artificial sheen in the highs. The midrange doesn’t seem to push through.
Maybe it’s just the speakers that are not broken in. Idk 🤷🏼♂️ |
My guess is the Magico M6 will go down in history of this thread as the never broken in speaker...
But we have a much bigger problem. We cannot give our honest opinion about a speaker without being ruthlessly responded to.
The M6 latest videos have showed an edgy, undynamic, midrange recessed and lacking bass omph sound. I am not the only one to have noticed this compared to the last Wilson and Focal setups. |
