I’ve heard the M6 twice before but i haven’t spent enough time with them to have an opinion. I’m assuming it has to be a superior experience in comparison to anything I’ve had here but it is big money... My dream would be a shootout of the new alexx V versus mágico m6... Ugh that would be amazing. I’d pay to go into a private setting to hear them both battle it out.
That said, they are so different in many ways. Having owned mágico m3 and Alexx, both do something special and it becomes a matter of what you want to hear. The precision of the mágico is superior to the Alexx but the alexx throw a much larger presentation than the m3. It pretty much swallows the m3 whole. Wilson has "a thing" that captures you when set up properly but mágico m series are special as well. They just disappear in the room and you can’t quite locate them.
Tonally, you have to first look in the mirror and figure out what kind of personality you are. If you prefer to sleep in the country where you hear birds, cows , chicken etc or do you prefer to sleep in the city where you can hear traffic at night and all the movement around you?
Wilson is quite musical reminding me a lot of Luxman and mágico reminds me more of gryphon and boulder to a certain extent.
Mágico has precision which is a synonym for accuracy, fidelity, faithfulness, nicety, rigor but it is also something that isn't easily understood because very few can reach it. Do you remember that one kid in your class that raised his hand and answered all questions that the teacher asked and got each question right ? Didn't you all kinda hated the kid plus he was also annoying as hell ?
Wilson is less perfect. It is like that pretty woman that wears makeup and looks stunning but without it not so much? Yet, we don't care because she is pretty to us even with imperfections plus she's fun and has a great personality.
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Constellation and Gryphon is awesome. Very different sound however.
I have rarely found a person who has had gryphon amps and replaced it with something else. I did the switch simply because I had the opportunity but make no mistake that gryphon and boulder will come back but maybe a different mode such as essence monos or boulder 2160 etc. I want to try the different models.
I was close to pulling the trigger on gryphon essence monos and then i changed complete directions. |
Is this presentation my all-time best? hmmm..
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Are you referring to pass labs ?
It's quite subjective...Having owned a ridiculous amount of amps, i can tell you I appreciate what you get from pass labs for the money.
Nothing is perfect including Boulder and Gryphon.
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Time will tell what ends up happening in my lab. I will be posting a poll soon and hopefully you all can vote. Which speaker brand is Jay most likely bringing home? - Von Schweikert
- Mágico
- Wilson Audio
- Vivid Audio
- Kharma
- Sonus Faber
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Too many variables. Both are at the top no matter who is sitting in front of the music. No Boulder owner can bad mouth a Mephisto owner and no Mephisto owner can bad mouth a Boulder owner. I had people come and listen to both and it was never clear cut dinner for anyone. Some people preferred the Mephisto for some music and the Boulder for other music.
If i go back to boulder, I'd do the 2160 and if i go back to Gryphon I'll do essence monos.
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Gryphon essence monos are crazy powerful. Trust me |
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I think sounding "right" is also a matter of opinion. There is no standard or school that teaches you what "right" should sound like.
This is why there is so much debate of wilson vs mágico. We don't have or better said, we haven't identified a standard for sound. I think if i was right in front of a real band playing music I'd be fatigued real quick but that is real live sound...does this mean i want that in my home? Not if it leads me to a 20 min listening session.
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Lots of great comments on the video itself. This has been well-received.
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Diablo 300 might come in and do battle with an integrated that is more than twice the msrp. |
Yes it could rival some separates but not all. |
No clue... Never owned the new progression |
One day I'll try lamm. I'm just not quite motivated yet...many have said to me privately I'm already past the lamm sound... They said if I were with pass labs or krells or simaudios of the world that i should consider lamm but since I've been to brands above those then it would be a step backwards no matter how i look at it. |
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First video of the Alexx V https://youtu.be/7zcSf_u9jgoInteresting how it has morphed and now it has lights incorporated just like the chronosonic. Looks very promising! |
It's more than triple the price of a diablo 300 without a dac or phono... |
I don’t particularly have much interest on tubes but when they come knocking on my door then why not try and play a little... Plus remember it helps my channel tremendously.
I have a couple of acquaintances who do youtube for a living but their channel is about their car and they all tell me that you must change product or your subscribers begin to lose interest. This was another reason why i sold everything at once. It gets many interested in what is coming next.
Next week I hope to tease you all with my next speaker. Maybe i will do a video with music playing and not show the speakers...i have many ideas but not sure yet. |
One step at a time... We will probably do the diablo 300 versus this other integrated and then pass labs xa60.8 driven directly by my dcs Rossini versus the unknown integrated...
Then next month i will be introducing tube monoblocks to throw in the fire and see what results we get...let's play, mix and match, have fun and see what happens...why the hell not right? |
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Ok ladies and gentlemen, Here is the list of the 6 speakers that i have carefully gone over and one of these speakers will be the speaker that you guys will soon meet :) - Sonus Faber Aída 2
- Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX
- Mágico M6
- Vivid Audio G1 Spirit
- Rockport Lyra
- Kharma Midi
It was one hell of a difficult choice, but i did my homework and i feel pretty good about my selection. Next week i will unveil my choice and go over the reasons why i selected it over the rest ! |
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World Premiere:
Jay's next speaker:
Friday March 19th, 5pm ET
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Jay’s throw-back systems! https://youtu.be/pDqTwHzRzzoLearning ...never stopped learning Those videos are random clips recorded with my phone when I had no intention of creating a youtube channel. I figured I’d share them with you. |
i am done with panels for now. You all have no idea on the logistics it takes to get a martin logan neolith inside a room. Too much work, then they are very wide so they would also block my view of the screen and i just don’t want to complicate things.
That said, since we are talking about electrostatics/panels, i will go ahead and give another hint about my new speaker: It is BY FAR the closest to a panel sonically speaking. Any slight movement and the entire presentation changes. I have never owned a speaker that sounds this close to an electrostatic/panel, but with dynamics.
4 days to go!!
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i will say that they sounded incredible even in the small space. Deep bass, huge soundstage that went behind my head. It was a nearfield listening experience that always blew me away. |
This comes from Kren ? The guy who knew all my speakers before I got them in here? Nah...something is not right lol |
- Panel-like imaging
- Superb transparency
- Houdini disappearing act before your eyes
- One inch movements can be heard
- World-class decay
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Got it. Yep I missed that. My bad |
Shout outs to Gryphon for acknowledging my work:
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well, i have an integrated arriving today and i plan to have a friend bring over his Diablo 300 at some point so we can do a shootout. He is actually quite paranoid because he does not want his Diablo 300 to lose hahaha
Integrated shootout will happen, but i don't think the Luxman integrated will be part of it for several reasons:
1. The new speaker needs more juice than the luxman has
2. i believe the gryphon 300 and this other integrated would be a great battle |
Well, i just spent about 20 hours positioning the speakers (over a few days) and measuring the floor down to inches. I think I got these suckers about 90% dialed in. Full and tight bass, clear mids and awesome imaging via lots of trials with the toe in.
I am still deciding if i want to release a clip tomorrow or not. What is stopping me is the fact that i don't have the same level of electronics as before so people will compare it to previous Alexx videos which isn't necessarily an apples to apples comparison. I'm using pass labs 60.8 with dac direct which isn't how I used the 60.8s with the alexx ( i also had the boulder 2110 in the mix with the Alexx)
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sounds like you are late to the party.... |
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Any guesses as to what Speaker it is now that you heard one clip ? |
Boulder preamp and monos...they aren't here.. but you could say that "only" the $60k boulder preamp is missing which is nothing to sneeze at... |
Just to put it in perspective: there is approximately $160,000 less on electronics... that needs to be factored in.. |
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Part of the exercise here is to bring a speaker that is more expensive than my electronics. If you paid attention to my last set up, you will see I had mono amps that are the same msrp as my Alexx. I had a speaker that was killer and electronics that were also killer but the ratio of my total budget wasn’t exactly 50-60% towards my speakers.
This time around, i will try ( i will try but can’t promise) to have a speaker that costs far more than my electronics and see what kind of results we get.
With that said, here is the final tip which will help you eliminate speakers from the list i gave you before:
This speaker costs far more money than the alexx i had and even more than the new Alexx V.
Now you should all be able to eliminate speakers from the list.
Tomorrow at noon you will get to see what I have selected and reasons why. I hope you enjoy what lies ahead. :). |
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My new reference speaker:
Video drops at 12pm ET today. |
Ok i have decided to host a zoom meeting today at 5pm ET for 40 min. I would like to finally have the pleasure to seeing some of your faces. This first zoom meeting is only for those of you who follow me here. I won't share it with those youtube followers who aren't part of this thread. If you are interested, here is the link: Jay Audio lab is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. There is room only for 100 participants. I want to simply share with you what i have going on and let you all interact with me a little closer. Topic: Jay’s Audio Lab Time: Mar 19, 2021 05:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) Join Zoom Meeting https://us05web.zoom.us/j/85211934221?pwd=SnZIakZhNHhKYVdiNVF4WGZpeTYrUT09Meeting ID: 852 1193 4221 Passcode: J6B2ay |
Thanks everyone. The comments on my youtube also seem to be quite positive about my speaker choice.
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Well that's why you would have to own them to know :)
I wasn't convinced Alexx was better than Alexia 2 until i brought both here... |
All I can say is that the m6 will stun people and make some mágico non-believers become believers. The tweeter on this thing is next level.
Aesthetically, it's a no contest between this and Alexx. This thing is a timeless design that doesnt ever age. |
