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I wish I still had my Purist Audio Dominus Fluid XLR interconnects and Dominus Fluid Power cord , but unfortunately, I do not .or I would send them for WC to try . The Dominus is a blend of Copper ,Silver and Gold. . The Nordost Odin interconnect is 24 copper Ribbons,(each 20 gauge) with silver plating. I am betting that the Odin sound a lot like the Verastarr Grand Illusion. which were very detailed ,big soundstage , up close presentation , but lacked bass IMO.... maybe the Odins have the bass.. ??? That would be my main concern with them. |
WC , You did not actually go to the show..right? Is it your Dealer who is giving you the feedback that the Neoliths sounded terrible ? Keep in mind , he wants to sell you expensive gear so he can make a lot of money. I am not saying they didn’t sound bad , but keep that in mind. Do you think he would tell you that the Parasound Audio gear sounded Great with the Neoliths, and you do not really need those Block Audio Amps ? I am just sayin’ |
Uh. I think I see why there are none. (Sim Audio 880-M) Read the comments after the review...Yikes https://www.stereophile.com/content/simaudio-moon-evolution-880m-monoblock-power-amplifier |
I have the Oppo 203 and use its HDMI input . The Oppo 203 has 2 HDMI outs (same as the 205). One is dedicated to Audio only The other does both . I run the Audio only HDMI out(of the 203) to the MX151 the other HDMI out (of the 203) goes to a 70 inch 4K Sony TV.. I also use a 4K HDMI switch ahead of the 203 .This way i can input (Dish ,Roku Ultra,JRiver Media Center etc) All are HDMI out of the Source to the switch , HDMI out of the switch to the HDMI in of the Oppo 203 (Oppo is set to Bitstream). I am also running a digital coaxial out of the Oppo 203 to the digital Coaxial input on my McCormack DAC-1 Deluxe. I am using the Analog out of the McCormack DAC-1 into one of the Analog inputs on the MX151. This gives me a lot of choices for sound .,especially since the MX151 will only allow analog inputs in order to play different sources in Zone A and Zone B .. like ..at the pool outside . Zone B is the pool for me I can use either the MX151 DAC or the McCormack DAC-1 Deluxe DAC. Is that as clear as mud ?. I still have not yet tried the DAC of the Oppo 203 or Analog outs. |
I will say that my Oppo 203 playing Pandora plus Through roku ultimate is very engaging . All of my devices are hard wired to the ethernet. If i compare the JRiver Media center PC playing .wav files that i have ripped from cd, i actually kind of prefer the Oppo 203s sound . Now both of these are being bitstreamed to the MX151 through Purist Audio HDMI. My Mx151 is doing the Digital to Analog .What i do notice is that the Oppo 203 is more lit up sounding, or forward. This is good at low to medium volumes. If i turn up really loud it can sound a little too overdone .. so to speak . Whereas if and when i crank up the JRiver to loud volumes , it is not as overbearing . Whether this actually means anything or not, i do not know . It's just an observation on the Oppo 203 vs JRiver PC |
Eclipse line is in both speaker cables and interconnect. WC has the Platinum Eclipse 8 speaker cables. Platinum Eclipse 8 is their top of the line, then Silver Eclipse 8 , then Gold Eclipse 8. http://www.wireworldcable.com/speaker-cables.html#quickcomp_speak http://www.wireworldcable.com/audio-interconnects.html#quickcomp_inter |
Here is Toroid’s (Steve Schoonover) perspective on Silver Vs Copper. He is/was the owner of Superior Mass Audio. They made a cable called "The West Star". They hand built cables from the mines they own or owned. It seems that hey are no longer in business, but he does talk about Silver vs C101 Copper. Our family owns mines in New Mexico. Working with the different elements and experimenting If you have to unscrew the RCA barrel to open up the This is why the best speaker crossovers are hand built and point I agree with Green, unscrew the barrel or just chop the whole Getting back to reality, silver vs. copper or a blend, in my 27 There are to many variables in the audio chain that can lead me Good luck and always remember, your ears! They do the final judging. An ardent audiophile’s perspective. The link below is to the specs on the West Star Copper cables : VERY INTERESTING.IMO 952 Feet of twisted pairs. It seems that it took that many to get rid of the "skin effect" https://www.audiogon.com/listings/speaker-superior-mass-audio-the-west-star-sma-since-1998-2014-09-1... |
Well, the XP-30 has won many accolades and awards . for sure. It should be outstanding. https://www.passlabs.com/preamplifier/xp-30 |
@whitecamaross you said I want for everyone to remember this:Is this what you did with the MX160 ? You did not try it out ??,or you could have at least seen what the Lyngdorf Room correction was all about. I had a few dropout on the MX151, but only with certain channels from DirecTV. ( CBS) I have not had any audio dropouts on any other sources. I sure wish you would give it a chance. It would help your room tremendously . |
@whitecamaross Let me know if you get some speakers that are 90-95 db efficient. I would love to send these Granite Audio 864 SR Monoblocks to try out . I have replaced the coupling caps with the Jupiter Copper Foil paper in Wax caps . They take these amps to a whole new level. They can run KT-88, 6L6GC (1 of my Favs) ,6550A, and EL34 output tubes. They have BIG Transformers for Great Bass and Dynamics .. They weigh 30lb each. I actually have them up for sale here on Audiogon IMHO,they are impossible to beat for the money. https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9d8ed-granite-audio-864-sr-tube Also on usaudiomart.com I honestly think that you would like them a lot. I really did not want to sell them .They are my favorite tube amps , for sure.Unfortunately finances force me to sell . I have to buy a new pool liner for my Inground Pool and I am a little short on cash. ...about $5K for the new liner. |
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Well just so you all know just how RIAA really feels, here is a msg I received from him .Uncalled for. New Message From: riaa_award_collectors_on_facebook (Craig Schriever)Apr 2, 2019 1:40pmLeave the thread alone. Your completely wrong about Paypal. You shouldn't even be on Audiogon with that bottom of the barrel crap you call stereo equipment. GRANITE??? You have ZERO chance of selling that junk and you might as well just take it to a scrap yard cause they are the only people that would take it. Your "Audio Room" looks like it came straight out of the Brady Bunch house. All you need is some Lava Lamps and Bobby Sherman/David Cassidy posters. Take your low life equipment and go to the Steve Hoffman Forums where the bottom feeders reside. |
@whitecamaross I was curious if you had seen this review. You would be able to try some lower powered tube amps with these as they are 93 db sensitivity. https://hometheaterreview.com/paradigm-persona-5f-floorstanding-speaker-reviewed/ |
WC, I agree, Give me something that has some magic and keeps me in my seat or up for hours after bedtime.. still listening . I do not want the ruthless revealing of recordings. Obviously, by the comments on your YouTube with the last video, there is a LOT of people in this camp. Make the music enjoyable and listenable... YES YES ...YES ! |
@psnyder149 Focusing only on or even emphasizing, "clarity" or "sparkle" or in fact on any other single facet of the pallet of the sonic spectrum is limited and limiting. Warmth and tonality, perhaps a result of lower, inner harmonic details are far more important to me than a very detailed presentation. Sense of weight and body including the extension, authority and control of bass are something that we share a common love of but for our mutual friend out west, this is not as important. I could continue to name other areas: sense of pace, rhythm, soundstage, height, depth, dynamic range, etc. all need to work together in presenting an aural picture of the recording that conveys all aspects of the sonic spectrum. I agree with you on this one . For far too many people, it is all about detail, which is fine,BUT, how long can you listen without ear fatigue. Highly detailed systems usually can’t be turned up very loud nor can you stand to listen very long. It is impressive, but only at first , until you listen for a bit , then it becomes annoying to the ears. You could not have stated it better, IMO |
How do you know what neutral or warm is . What is your reference that you base all of this off of ? I am afraid we all have an idea, but we all hear differently, and what are we using as a reference for what any of these categories really are. I am afraid there really isn’t one ... Is there ? This is helpful ... but we can’t pick out which frequencies we are hearing more or less of with our ears ....can we ? https://wiki.fractalaudio.com/wiki/images/6/63/Main_chart.jpg |
FROM audiophliestyle.com They awarded this room the Best In Show at Axpona This is the room that WCSS liked best too. I would like to know Which Cardas Cables they were using . Does anyone know ? |
Damn WCSS, You might want to re-visit some of the ones I sent .. ..LOL I know that they are not all demo material, but several were. I guess , in your defense, I did not send song titles or cd insert with that info .. I should have listed what was on that Ayon one. You are gonna have to Shazam that cd to find the Artist and songs,... sorry. |
@whitecamaross Guys I actually sent it to him months ago. It was in The Ayon Audio Sampler disc.It is absolutely one of the best IMO. It has : Domination by Peace Orchestra Tin Pan Alley- Stevie Ray Vaughan Bela Fleck-Flight of The Cosmic Hippo My Battle-- Andrea Houston Walking On The Moon --Yuri Honing Trio Bessame Mama-- Poncho Sanchez Suitcase-- Keb’ Mo Fink--See It All and many more but those right there are some Great Demo songs I find that the old group WAR had some great recordings .Especially "The World is a Ghetto" Album |
@whitecamaross Sorry man. I did not mean to start a debate on guitarists. I try to respect the thread and you, but the music suggestions , were obviously something that I thought stood out , and would be a good "System Test" .The reason for posting was for everyone who reads the thread,to check it out . I only ever bring up something "off topic" , when i think it will benefit everyone . Most,but not all, was stuff that took me many many years of listening , to find , and "cherry pick" out the songs that I thought stood,above many . The Stevie Ray Vaughan "Tin Pan Alley" was one that I had sent to you, but until Mr. Decibel mentioned it as one to try , you were unaware of it , even though you actually had it . I know that I had physically mailed you some music cds and asked you to listen and let me know your thoughts, unfortunately, I never heard back from you about any of it , privately or publicly.Many times i and others have asked you a question or have posted something for you to respond to ,and it just gets ...Ignored. The big problem with a lot of the songs i mentioned , is that they are not in the database, in Tidal...and so many "Audiophile types " are stuck on TIDAL. Tidal sucks when it come to content , IMO. Sometimes you just have to go to Youtube , but then again, Therein lies the problem. Most "audiophile" folks do not have the ability to listen to Youtube on their system, because they have an ""audiophile" Pre-amp, which only takes analog inputs and is 2 channel. I think everyone needs the ability to play something from a computer based system. In today’s world if you don’t have this capability , then you are missing out... on a lot, IMO. I use a McIntosh MX150. It is good in its own right. It does not compete with a most 2 Channel Pre-amp setups .. I admit this . I have a PC that runs JRiver Media Center . It will also do anything that you can do from a PC... and that is a lot. Of course a lot of Audiophile types will snub their nose at this , But, I can play DVD-Audio files or DVD music which is usually .MVI files...and all of this can be done in 2 Channel , DTS ...5.1 Surround . etc I also own a Roku Ultra. .Pandora Plus sounds Fantastic through the Roku (HDMI). can also see anything in 4K that it offers. I had the OPPO UDP-203. It has an HDMI input. It will output 4K. WC , I know you have a TV between those speakers. I know that you have an OPPO Udp 205. If you hook up a Roku Ultra in to it, your possibilities are Phenomenal. The big problem here is that the Ultra Hi-Fi (in most peoples opinion) is all about 2 channel. I am here to tell you that if you have something that takes and HDMI input ,You greatly expand your A/V experience. PC computer Example . I have a McCormack DAC-1, that I use for the outdoor pool speakers. I have usb out of my PC (Mainly J-River Media center) to a V-Link2 USB to spdif converter. (usb in and both Coaxial and optical out ) I am testing the following to see which sound better HDMI out of PC to HDMI l in on McIntosh MX150 Optical out of V-link 2 to Mx150 Coaxial out of V-Link 2 to McCoramck DAC-1 to Analog in of MX150 Optical out of V-link 2 to McCormack DAC-1 to analog in of MX150. Anyway my whole point is that , I may not be getting that awesome 2 Channel , but I have Awesome sound on 2.0 or 2.1 or 5.1. I think a lot of people are missing out on a lot with just dedicated 2 channel systems . Don’t get me wrong , everyone’s high end 2 channel setup is excellent and rewarding in its own right. This is all the more reason IMO for you to build that Home Theater Room ! Oh , and what i was going to say initially, to WCSS, with all due respect, .. is that , OP means "Original Poster" not necessarily "Owner of the Pages" |
@whitecamaross I highly recommend the Deep Sea Sound --Marianas 24. The company name is Deep Sea Sound. David Gage , the owner, lives right here in Knoxville,TN and builds them here. He is fantastic and so are his Subs I have demoed this sub in my 12x15 room. It is unreal.!!! Don’t think for a minute that because it is a 24 inch driver, that it is slow. it is very articulate.... no bloat whatsoever. It is absolutely the best sub that I have ever heard ! Only $4000.00 I was getting Real, usable output , down to 10Hz. Nobody can come close to this Amazing sub, for 4K.. https://www.deepseasound.com/collections/all https://www.deepseasound.com/pages/faqs Especially Click on the FAQ about if they are Musical https://www.audioholics.com/recommended-systems/rise-of-the-super-subwoofers-a-comparison-guide |