My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!


So I have been in a long journey looking to find the best amplifiers for my martin logan montis. As you know, the match between an amplifier and speakers has to be a good "marriage" and needs to be blend exquisitely. Right now, I think I might have found the best sounding amplifier for martin logan. I have gone through approximately 34-36 amplifiers in the past 12 months. Some of these are:

Bryston ST, SST, SST2 series
NAD M25
PARASOUND HALO
PARASOUND CLASSIC
KRELL TAS
KRELL KAV 500
KRELL CHORUS
ROTEL RMB 1095
CLASSE CT 5300
CLASSE CA 2200
CLASSE CA 5200
MCINTOSH MC 205
CARY AUDIO CINEMA 7
OUTLAW AUDIO 755
LEXICON RX7
PASS LABS XA 30.8
BUTLER AUDIO 5150
ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005

With all that said, the amplifiers I mentioned above are the ones that in my opinion are worth mentioning. To make a long story short, there is NO 5 CHANNEL POWER AMP that sounds as good as a 3ch and 2ch amplifier combination. i have done both experiments and the truth is that YOU DO lose details and more channel separation,etc when you select a 5 channel power amplifier of any manufacturer.
My recollection of what each amp sounded like is as follows:

ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005 (great power and amazing soundstage. Very low noise floor, BUT this amplifiers NEEDS TO BE cranked up in order to fully enjoy it. If you like listening at low volume levels or somewhat moderate, you are wasting your time here. This amp won’t sound any different than many other brands out there at this volume. The bass is great, good highs although they are a bit bright for my taste)

NAD M25 (very smooth, powerful, but somewhat thin sounding as far as bass goes)
Bryston sst2(detailed, good soundstage, good power, but can be a little forward with certain speakers which could make them ear fatiguing at loud volumes)

Krell (fast sounding, nice bass attack, nice highs, but some detail does get lost with certain speakers)

rotel (good amp for the money, but too bright in my opinion)

cary audio (good sound overall, very musical, but it didn’t have enough oomph)

parasound halo (good detail, great bass, but it still holds back some background detail that i can hear in others)

lexicon (very laid back and smooth. huge power, but if you like more detail or crisper highs, this amp will disappoint you)

McIntosh mc205 (probably the worst multichannel amp given its price point. it was too thin sounding, had detail but lacked bass.

butler audio (good amplifier. very warm and smooth sweet sounding. i think for the money, this is a better amp than the parasound a51)

pass labs (very VERY musical with excellent bass control. You can listen to this for hours and hours without getting ear fatigue. however, it DOES NOT do well in home theater applications if all you have is a 2 channel set up for movies. The midrange gets somewhat "muddy" or very weak sounding that you find yourself trying to turn it up.

classe audio (best amplifier for multi channel applications. i simply COULDNT FIND a better multi channel amplifier PERIOD. IT has amazing smoothness, amazing power and good bass control although i would say krell has much better bass control)

Update: The reviews above were done in January 2015. Below is my newest update as of October 2016:



PS AUDIO BHK 300 MONOBLOCKS: Amazing amps. Tons of detail and really amazing midrange. the bass is amazing too, but the one thing i will say is that those of you with speakers efficiency of 87db and below you will not have all the "loudness" that you may want from time to time. These amps go into protection mode when using a speaker such as the Salon, but only at very loud levels. Maybe 97db and above. If you don’t listen to extreme crazy levels, these amps will please you in every way.

Plinius Odeon 7 channel amp: This is THE BEST multichannel amp i have ever owned. Far , but FAR SUPERIOR to any other multichannel amp i have owned. In my opinion it destroyed all of the multichannel amps i mentioned above and below. The Odeon is an amp that is in a different tier group and it is in a league of its own. Amazing bass, treble and it made my center channel sound more articulate than ever before. The voices where never scrambled with the action scenes. It just separated everything very nicely.

Theta Dreadnaught D: Good detailed amp. Looks very elegant, has a pleasant sound, but i found it a tad too bright for my taste. I thought it was also somewhat "thin" sounding lacking body to the music. could be that it is because it is class d?

Krell Duo 300: Good amp. Nice and detailed with enough power to handle most speakers out there. I found that it does have a very nice "3d" sound through my electrostatics. Nothing to fault here on this amp.
Mark Levinson 532H: Great 2 channel amp. Lots of detail, amazing midrange which is what Mark Levinson is known for. It sounds very holographic and will please those of you looking for more detail and a better midrange. As far as bass, it is there, but it is not going to give you the slam of a pass labs 350.5 or JC1s for example. It is great for those that appreciate classical music, instrumental, etc, but not those of you who love tons of deep bass.

 It is articulate sounding too
Krell 7200: Plenty of detail and enough power for most people. i found that my rear speakers contained more information after installed this amp. One thing that i hated is that you must use xlr cables with this amp or else you lose most of its sound performance when using RCA’s.

Krell 402e: Great amp. Very powerful and will handle any speaker you wish. Power is incredible and with great detail. That said, i didn’t get all the bass that most reviewers mentioned. I thought it was "ok" in regards to bass. It was there, but it didn’t slam me to my listening chair.

Bryston 4B3: Good amp with a complete sound. I think this amp is more laid back than the SST2 version. I think those of you who found the SST2 version of this amp a little too forward with your speakers will definitely benefit from this amp’s warmth. Bryston has gone towards the "warm" side in my opinion with their new SST3 series. As always, they are built like tanks. I wouldn’t call this amp tube-like, but rather closer to what the classe audio delta 2 series sound like which is on the warm side of things.

Parasound JC1s: Good powerful amps. Amazing low end punch (far superior bass than the 402e). This amp is the amp that i consider complete from top to bottom in regards to sound. Nothing is lacking other than perhaps a nicer chassis. Parasound needs to rework their external appearance when they introduce new amps. This amp would sell much more if it had a revised external appearance because the sound is a great bang for the money. It made my 800 Nautilus scream and slam. Again, amazing low end punch.

Simaudio W7: Good detailed amp. This amp reminds me a lot of the Mark Levinson 532h. Great detail and very articulate. I think this amp will go well with bookshelves that are ported in order to compensate for what it lacks when it comes to the bass. That doesn’t mean it has no bass, but when it is no Parasound JC1 either.
Pass labs 350.5: Wow, where do i begin? maybe my first time around with the xa30.8 wasn’t as special as it was with this monster 350.5. It is just SPECTACULAR sounding with my electrostatics. The bass was THE BEST BASS i have ever heard from ANY amp period. The only amp that comes close would be the jC1s. It made me check my settings to make sure the bass was not boosted and kept making my jaw drop each time i heard it. It totally destroyed the krell 402e in every regard. The krell sounded too "flat" when compared to this amp. This amp had amazing mirange with great detail up top. In my opinion, this amp is the best bang for the money. i loved this amp so much that i ended up buying the amp that follows below.

Pass labs 250.8: What can i say here. This is THE BEST STEREO AMP i have ever heard. This amp destroys all the amps i have listed above today to include the pass labs 350.5. It is a refined 350.5 amp. It has more 3d sound which is something the 350.5 lacked. It has a level of detail that i really have never experienced before and the bass was amazing as well. I really thought it was the most complete power amplifier i have ever heard HANDS DOWN. To me, this is a benchmark of an amplifier. This is the amp that others should be judged by. NOTHING is lacking and right now it is the #1 amplifier that i have ever owned.

My current amps are Mcintosh MC601s: i decided to give these 601s a try and they don’t disappoint. They have great detail, HUGE soundstage, MASSIVE power and great midrange/highs. The bass is great, but it is no pass labs 250.8 or 350.5. As far as looks, these are the best looking amps i have ever owned. No contest there. i gotta be honest with you all, i never bought mcintosh monos before because i wasn’t really "wowed" by the mc452, but it could have been also because at that time i was using a processor as a preamp which i no longer do. Today, i own the Mcintosh C1100 2 chassis tube preamp which sounds unbelievable. All the amps i just described above have been amps that i auditioned with the C1100 as a preamp. The MC601s sound great without a doubt, but i will say that if you are looking for THE BEST sound for the money, these would not be it. However, Mcintosh remains UNMATCHED when it comes to looks and also resale value. Every other amp above depreciates much faster than Mcintosh.

That said, my future purchase (when i can find a steal of a deal) will be the Pass labs 350.8. I am tempted to make a preliminary statement which is that i feel this amp could be THE BEST stereo amp under 30k dollars. Again, i will be able to say more and confirm once i own it. I hope this update can help you all in your buying decisions!


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Nah. I have seen it in black and it doesn't quite do it for me. Silver looks more bling.
i have received feedback in regards to the Centaur 2 which is that they are incredible amplifiers. Just very tube-like sound that never gets fatiguing. I have yet to hear them or see them. 
The momentum 400s will probably come to me at some point as soon as i locate a deal from a reputable source. At this level, you have to be sure you are getting what you pay for because it won't be cheap to get them fixed. 

I will know more tomorrow about the Focal Scala Evo and also a pair of black Alexia 1 speakers that seem to be promising, but i can't assume anything until i see pictures. 
I will give my impressions of the Dag Progression stereo amp and matching Progression preamp VS the momentum s250 and HD preamp. 
Hi Dave, 
Great point you bring up. So why don't i review the Rane eq, the tekton's speakers? i simply feel like i am already miles ahead of these products. What i mean by that is simply that i don't want to do a U turn and come back to where i already am. This does not mean those ideas you have are not good. However, i don't want to buy the tekton's knowing that i am going to give them up before 30 days. I said it above, i don't work that way.  i don't want to exploit the generous offer that they have for those who are serious about owning their products. 
Parasound will always be Parasound, Emotiva will always be Emotiva. They won't turn into magico or audio research overnight. Their business model won't allow them to make the necessary steps that can close the gap with the big players in this industry and they know this. 
A Hyundai Equus will always be a Hyundai (although a good car) and won't ever be a Mercedes S550. 
You see why sometimes I don’t answer every question.... people can get sensitive and it’s understood. 
I don’t understand WHY manufacturers make ugly components. Don’t they understand that pretty stuff appeals to most men? What man likes an ugly, ancient looking woman? It’s like they don’t have any common sense.
Ive said this to several of them too. Stop making hideous stuff!! It’s already hard to sell some of this stuff so making it ugly makes it that much more difficult.
The one thing I’ll say once again is that the Wilson audio Sasha grabbed the most attention in my home and then Martin Logan 15a.
Lastly, this is WHY McIntosh and b&w sell so well too. People love their look and so aesthetics is huge especially here in South Florida. Who the hell wants to drop 2 million dollars for a property on the 50th floor overlooking at the ocean in south beach and walk in and find some ugly rogue audio equipment?
i am currently contemplating a clock, but more and more amps and preamps keep arriving.... 

Dag Progression Stereo Amp and Progression Preamp 
VS
Dag Momentum S250 and Momentum HD Preamp

My thoughts to come soon. 
ok guys, 
i have been laying low lately, but that is when i am making moves. Anytime you see me go silent, that is a sign of things to come. 
With that said, my new speakers will ship this coming Friday. I won't say what they are until they hit my door, but let's just say that hmmm they have been mentioned here a few times. :) 
Now i need to head to the gym to get my back arthritis fixed. i will need to feel good for those speakers. Is it scary? yes, will it be alot of work ? yes. have i owned this brand of speakers before? yes. Are they the most expensive component i've owned? absolutely yes. 
Stay tuned... i TOLD YOU ALL i was going to make this interesting again. 
Remember guys, one can’t please everyone. I am sitting here listening to the Magico s5 mk2 for one last time before they go to their new home. I’m trying to close my eyes and capture as much in head of what this speaker can do as I possibly can so I can compare with what lies ahead.
Although yes I loved a lot of what it can do, but it won’t stop me from pushing forward. The ref10 is possibly the item that has sat here the longest and only because I don’t think that there is anything that tops it for under 50k.
Just remember one thing, the next speaker is a speaker that JUST ABOUT EVERYONE went against it. I decided to say “ I don’t give a d@amn, let me find out for myself” and go from there. I WILL MAKE THAT CALL. I didn’t start this journey being scared or with fear. I’ve bought stuff that people wouldn’t dare to buy and at that time I had my hesitations but I came out fine. This time, yes we are talking north of $50k and it’s real money but I welcome the challenge. I welcome to find out with my own ears how good or not so good this will be.
I will try to film their arrival once they get here and maybe even post a video on YouTube. Maybe that will be the beginning? 
We will see ;) 
Grey9hound: I didn’t take anything personal. I am just saying that the  speakers I chose was simply because I felt like I had a great opportunity, I’ve been curious about it, I Believe it will be good but I won’t know until it’s here. Remember, I am going to also have a shot at trying some monster Monos that are being built as we speak. These will be put to the test in more ways than you can imagine. 
I am not leaving magico to try something I believe will be inferior. However, that remains to be seen. 
Lastly, the combo I’m getting ready to put together is one that no dealer and nobody has ever done before. I’ve got 2 dealers that will be here to hear this madness once everything is in place. Will I fail? We shall see... 

I’ve got no interest in vinyl. I don’t hate it but I don’t plan to start buying records. 
As far as amps, no it’s not momentum’s since I couldn’t get a deal done with anyone. 
I will do what nobody thought could be done. I learn through this journey without really focusing too much on what magazines write. I plan on video taping this once they arrive next week. 
Mrdecibel: I like the way you are thinking :)
One hint: the Monos retail for $65k. Weight 200 lbs each. 
I couldn’t lock in a deal on the momentums unfortunately. They will come I am sure. It’s all about timing. 
The moon 888s are just too ridiculously expensive. 
No deals and those amps were mainly sold in Europe. They didn’t sell many of those here. 
So have you all ever wondered how much different are the Dan D Progression Stere & Preamp combo in comparison to the Momentum S250 & Momentum HD Preamp? Don't guess anymore. Here are my thoughts:

1. Progression is smooth, controlled and musical
2. Momentum is clearer, purer, more detailed, livelier, BIGGER BOLDER BOTTOM END, bigger soundstage, prettier. FAR FAR SUPERIOR to the Progression stereo/preamp combo in every regard.


THE END
Ok guys, so i need to give you all an update. A momentum piece has been finally been dealt with and I will be paying for this tonight. I will reveal soon what momentum piece I have bought ;) 
Told you all that things will get going once again....  that said, I’m close to the ceiling in terms of what I’ve always aspired to own. Will I ever own the 700k Wilson wamm and the  250k relentless monoblocks? Not part of my plan unless I win the lottery. I never thought I’d be this high up in regards to audio. I’m getting closer and closer. 
Sure there are a few things I’d love to try but after that I don’t see anything else in the near future. I don’t see much change for a few years. 
Stay tuned for the arrival of the speakers next week... they will have the gryphon Diablo 300, momentum integrated, and the mystery Monos next month.... 
Would you all be shocked if I decided to sell everything off and keep the momentum integrated, the new speakers and esoteric dac? Remember one thing, the speakers im getting are about 86-87db efficient so I won’t know if the 200 Watts of the integrated will be enough.  I remember that one single Luxman amp wasn’t enough for the vivid audios. That said we know that the momentum integrated is probably underrated in terms of power and it’s probably more like 250 watts per channel. 
Lastly, I chose these new speakers because several sources said one thing to me which is something I’ve wanted in a speaker which was “ that speaker played small or big in the same fashion. It does both spectacularly” and lately I’ve been having to listen to music at low volumes so my 2 year old doesn’t wake up. This is key for me in a speaker. It must play with all bells and whistles at low and high volumes. 
Tonight's final shootout for the luxman separates. This will be the final video for luxman on my channel for the time being. As promised:

Gryphon Colosseum with Ayre KXR TWENTY and with Luxman C900u. 
Vídeo to come tonight
ok guys sooooooo today i bought the momentum integrated  :) 
i will have it next Friday just in time for the new speakers. Yes i know it is only 200 watts per channel, but i can finally say i will have hands on my first Dag piece. Very very excited. How bad will it whip my Diablo 300? 
we shall see :) 
Viber: I totally feel you there but it’s tough for me to make a u turn right now. 

Has anyone here heard the momentum integrated? If so, what speakers? I’ve not read ONE BAD review about it or posting by anyone. The general public seems to have the same opinion about it which is that it is an outstanding unit that can take on expensive separates. 
Jsqt: I didn’t get a chance to do that. However, the Luxman integrated is special. You’ll be very happy. Do me a favor, don’t turn it off. Leave it on and never turn it off.
Interesting mike. I really think and this is a gut feeling by the way that the integrated shouldn’t have issues driving most speakers but if the speakers are demanding then it will still drive them but you can’t be doing 95+ dB sessions. I think there’s a cap.
Something tells me that the integrated will make my jaw drop. I just have this weird feeling. I don’t have any issues keeping an integrated if it indeed can best separates or at least come within 90-95%
If I were to bet between the progression Monos with  ref 10 combo vs momentum integrated, I’d put my money in the integrated. The momentun components are supposed to be on another level. 

I’ve been trying to locate that current measurement. The voltage is about 42a I think. 
thanks for the comments above. 
As i said before, this is system matching and i want to learn as well as share with you all. Last night, i did more testing and swapped the silver eclipse 8 xlr that i was using on the video to go from the dac into the preamps with the cardas clear beyond xlr and that totally changed the synergy of the Gryphon with the Momentum HD for the better. 
More tests will come with time and i will also be testing some "audience" xlr's soon. i heard great things about this manufacturer so i am being loaned a set to try. i am very excited. More to come !
i have not said that i don't want horns. i have been told that horns are the way to go and it will be over. I am simply saying that if i don't like it, i will have a hard time selling it to move forward. I have been advised against buying horns if my journey is to keep going. Why? well because their 1800 aesthetics will be a problem for many. 
hell i asked myself just now, WHY did i buy the momentum integrated if i am having doubts about it properly handling my new speakers? 
i bought it because my good connection worked out a deal plus took a few of my pieces on trade AND i know this was the quickest and easiest way for me to begin exploring the Dag momentum house sound. 
I have NEVER EVER heard it. Have zero clue as to what it sounds like and i have been itching to try it. Sure, i would have preferred some m400s, but if those don't show up then the integrated will give me the full taste of the amp/preamp synergy even though it may not be at the full scale of the m400, but it should give me most of the sound signature. 
Lastly, yes the momentum integrated sells rather easy. Each time one lists, it is gone in a few days. This tells me that i should have no issue selling it if i find that it can't properly handle my new speakers. However, i REALLY doubt that because NOTHING that Dag has ever built under his new line has ever had issues driving any speaker. His designs are solid and built with Balls to drive anything out there. 
Bigdesign3: nice write up. I like your perception of Dan. That said, it’s very scary buying a unit that only puts out 200 watts per channel. Why? Well because you wonder if it can push a speaker with 87db sensitivity. You wonder if it can move those power hungry speakers. However, the fact that this piece is his design is indeed what keeps me more at ease. I did hear from a few people that it drove their Wilson Alexia really easy without issues.
That said, it appears that nobody who currently reads my thread has hands on experience with it. 
Hi Abyzz,
Welcome to the thread. Unfortunately I’ve never tried those brands you are asking about. I can say to you that I’ve good things about halcro but never owned it. For home theater, I think class d amps are the way to go and ATI has a 8 channel amp that is good for what you need while being relatively cheap. That would probably be my go to amp if I was building a home theater set up. 

Problem with Chord is that you will need to probably sit on it for a very long time before someone wants it.
Yes I am ok. I am just hoping this thing can drive the new speakers. 
I will know soon enough. 
Techno: so I get your point. Nobody wants to buy a Range Rover and be at the dealer constantly with electrical issues. It defeats the purpose of having such a nice car. However, I’ve never heard of a momentun catching fire or just having issues. Hell I want a ranger roger myself but their reliability has been exposed multiple times and it’s a car you don’t buy without warranty.
I want to say that the reliability conversation really doesn’t apply to anything that agostino has had his hands on. I’ve never had a Krell amp fail me that I can recall and the momentum stuff is supposed to bring things to a whole other level in terms of construction.
The truth is Amps hardly go bad because there are no moving parts. I think the only amp I had issues with was an emotiva amp (go figure). Everything else has been pretty solid for me. I also keep in touch with most people who’ve bought from me and they haven’t had any issues.
Actually, I do recall 2 issues but they were with tube amps and the issues seemed to be tube related so 3 amps out of 300+ amps which is less than 1%. That’s really nothing... 
Abizzle: yes, the cinepro is a solid amp. very good power and great current on those amps. You should be ok with something like that. 

Tommyu1: i am not quite familiar with your front end, but i did own both of the amps you have interest in buying. i think the Plinius sb301 mk2 is a great amp with lots of slam and dynamic, but it does not have the same quality of high frequencies that the 250.8 has. I find the 250.8 better with highs and mids, but it won't touch the Plinius on the lows. The bottom end on the Plinius sb301 mk2 was awesome and better than the plinius sa103. It really depends on what you are trying to do to your system. I personally never found pass labs as a brand known for the full bottom end. They were always somewhat flat sounding in the bass with the exception of the big boys like the xs150, xs300, 200.5. 
If it were me, it would take the pass labs 250.8. You can always fix the bass by adding a sub. Not much you can do to fix grainy highs. 
Correct techno dude. Will the dag integrated best a Luxman combo ? Wouldn’t that be amazing to test and see? 
Get ready. My mágicos are in their crates as of 2 hours ago. I’m moving to a whole new tier group of speakers. we shall see what these will bring to the table. I already have 3 types of amplifacation waiting for them.
Hint: they will be about 7 feet apart from each other and one foot off the back and side wall and I’ll be about 8.5 feet away from them.
Hi jimmy,
i started with integrateds recently and only because I came up on some deals. My main objective are amplifiers here and right now I’m waiting on the next set of amps. As far as your idea, you are right, you’re not the first one to think of it :) 
thanks for following the thread. 
Wow. I just got the momentum integrated and I’ve never seen anything like it. Incredible how amazing this looks. 
I will be using some Sonus faber olympica 2s that I didn’t even know I had in the garage and see how this integrated compares to the gryphon. My new speakers won’t be here until probably early next week. 
Techno: although I see where you come from with the perception that they build
it to play with your mind, it can’t fool so many people. I mean, I’ve not heard one bad thing about this piece. Not one by anyone. Maybe you are right and I find out that it can’t beat the Diablo. It is almost 3 times as expensive as the Diablo so yes it should beat it quite easily. My mind is telling me that the Diablo will beat it in regards to the bass but it won’t beat it when it comes to mids and highs. 
Dominick: the Hegel h30 is awesome. That’s one great amp with enormous bass control. I can’t say anything bad about it but the Luxman 900u is a more refined component. 
Thanks for this Guido. Interesting thoughts. 
Lots and lots of it interesting comments on my YouTube channel as well. There's a feeling that people like number 3 and then number 1 with number 2 being last ? Not sure but that's what I gather from the comments. 
You are all in for a treat once I disclose what each component was :) 
@techno....yes that cable will make an entrance here at some point. I almost bought it last week, but i need to have content for the future lol...
i actually have MANY who tell me i go through gear too fast and don't give it too much time to settle in, or that i need to have it for a few months, etc, etc. IF I held on to gear for months in order to give my thoughts we would be on page 20 of this thread and STILL working through Bryston amps....  just saying..
You guys crack me up. Hey I had them in the corner in boxes and I have a bunch of stuff there that I need to sell off but I’m always too busy and don’t get around to it. I saw the boxes to the speakers and I remembered that I had those there. 
I have tried the P20 from ps audio and after i tried the Shunyata Denali 6000T and Audioquest Niagara 5000 i realized the Ps Audio P20 is nothing else more than a great power surge protector. I believe my perception of "change" in sound was merely psychological which was confirmed once i used the power conditioners mentioned above. 
To me, the P20 is just a prettier chassis than the Furman 20i, but they both do about the same in regards to sound improvements. 
I DO NOT understand WHY manufacturers don't look at other companies to understand WHAT they do to succeed at certain things. For example, if i am a cable manufacturer and want to make better power cords, i would buy a nordost odin 1, Audioquest Dragon or Hurricane and dissect them and see what they did so i can get ideas on how to improve my own products. Listen, this is NO DIFFERENT than if you are trying to pass an exam and can't seem to pass it and you finally realize you need to pass so you need to find out what the hell your class mate did to pass it.
Where did he study? what book did he read? does he have material you can borrow so you can do better? At one point you gotta give up if you are not cutting it with a certain component. i actually have given this feedback to a few manufacturers but when you do that they feel offended or look at you with this face like you insulted them rather than seeing it as constructive criticism. Look i get it, you should aim for innovation, but if that is not happening then grab ideas (it does not mean you have to copy everything). Study the product from other manufacturers and see what the hell they do to remain successful. 

As smart as Paul Mcgowan is, i don't understand WHY he has not done this by now. However, you can lead the horse to the water, but you can't make him drink it. 
@speedbump.   
We will need to talk about how you have managed to do this lol. I want to last as long as you have. 
YG Sonja 1.3
wilson audio Alexia 2
wilson audio Alexia 1
wilson audio Sasha DAW
Martin Logan Neolith 
Egglestonworks viginti 
Nola concert grand reference gold


i have posted my next speaker on the list above....  tic tac... tic tac. What will it be ?
I believe techno dude offered me his amp for me to buy it from him. He didn’t mention a trade for my gryphon. Hell yes the gryphon is amazing for the money. I could totally live happy with it for a very long time but there’s a mometum next to it that doesn’t let me look at the gryphon :)