My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!


So I have been in a long journey looking to find the best amplifiers for my martin logan montis. As you know, the match between an amplifier and speakers has to be a good "marriage" and needs to be blend exquisitely. Right now, I think I might have found the best sounding amplifier for martin logan. I have gone through approximately 34-36 amplifiers in the past 12 months. Some of these are:

Bryston ST, SST, SST2 series
NAD M25
PARASOUND HALO
PARASOUND CLASSIC
KRELL TAS
KRELL KAV 500
KRELL CHORUS
ROTEL RMB 1095
CLASSE CT 5300
CLASSE CA 2200
CLASSE CA 5200
MCINTOSH MC 205
CARY AUDIO CINEMA 7
OUTLAW AUDIO 755
LEXICON RX7
PASS LABS XA 30.8
BUTLER AUDIO 5150
ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005

With all that said, the amplifiers I mentioned above are the ones that in my opinion are worth mentioning. To make a long story short, there is NO 5 CHANNEL POWER AMP that sounds as good as a 3ch and 2ch amplifier combination. i have done both experiments and the truth is that YOU DO lose details and more channel separation,etc when you select a 5 channel power amplifier of any manufacturer.
My recollection of what each amp sounded like is as follows:

ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005 (great power and amazing soundstage. Very low noise floor, BUT this amplifiers NEEDS TO BE cranked up in order to fully enjoy it. If you like listening at low volume levels or somewhat moderate, you are wasting your time here. This amp won’t sound any different than many other brands out there at this volume. The bass is great, good highs although they are a bit bright for my taste)

NAD M25 (very smooth, powerful, but somewhat thin sounding as far as bass goes)
Bryston sst2(detailed, good soundstage, good power, but can be a little forward with certain speakers which could make them ear fatiguing at loud volumes)

Krell (fast sounding, nice bass attack, nice highs, but some detail does get lost with certain speakers)

rotel (good amp for the money, but too bright in my opinion)

cary audio (good sound overall, very musical, but it didn’t have enough oomph)

parasound halo (good detail, great bass, but it still holds back some background detail that i can hear in others)

lexicon (very laid back and smooth. huge power, but if you like more detail or crisper highs, this amp will disappoint you)

McIntosh mc205 (probably the worst multichannel amp given its price point. it was too thin sounding, had detail but lacked bass.

butler audio (good amplifier. very warm and smooth sweet sounding. i think for the money, this is a better amp than the parasound a51)

pass labs (very VERY musical with excellent bass control. You can listen to this for hours and hours without getting ear fatigue. however, it DOES NOT do well in home theater applications if all you have is a 2 channel set up for movies. The midrange gets somewhat "muddy" or very weak sounding that you find yourself trying to turn it up.

classe audio (best amplifier for multi channel applications. i simply COULDNT FIND a better multi channel amplifier PERIOD. IT has amazing smoothness, amazing power and good bass control although i would say krell has much better bass control)

Update: The reviews above were done in January 2015. Below is my newest update as of October 2016:



PS AUDIO BHK 300 MONOBLOCKS: Amazing amps. Tons of detail and really amazing midrange. the bass is amazing too, but the one thing i will say is that those of you with speakers efficiency of 87db and below you will not have all the "loudness" that you may want from time to time. These amps go into protection mode when using a speaker such as the Salon, but only at very loud levels. Maybe 97db and above. If you don’t listen to extreme crazy levels, these amps will please you in every way.

Plinius Odeon 7 channel amp: This is THE BEST multichannel amp i have ever owned. Far , but FAR SUPERIOR to any other multichannel amp i have owned. In my opinion it destroyed all of the multichannel amps i mentioned above and below. The Odeon is an amp that is in a different tier group and it is in a league of its own. Amazing bass, treble and it made my center channel sound more articulate than ever before. The voices where never scrambled with the action scenes. It just separated everything very nicely.

Theta Dreadnaught D: Good detailed amp. Looks very elegant, has a pleasant sound, but i found it a tad too bright for my taste. I thought it was also somewhat "thin" sounding lacking body to the music. could be that it is because it is class d?

Krell Duo 300: Good amp. Nice and detailed with enough power to handle most speakers out there. I found that it does have a very nice "3d" sound through my electrostatics. Nothing to fault here on this amp.
Mark Levinson 532H: Great 2 channel amp. Lots of detail, amazing midrange which is what Mark Levinson is known for. It sounds very holographic and will please those of you looking for more detail and a better midrange. As far as bass, it is there, but it is not going to give you the slam of a pass labs 350.5 or JC1s for example. It is great for those that appreciate classical music, instrumental, etc, but not those of you who love tons of deep bass.

 It is articulate sounding too
Krell 7200: Plenty of detail and enough power for most people. i found that my rear speakers contained more information after installed this amp. One thing that i hated is that you must use xlr cables with this amp or else you lose most of its sound performance when using RCA’s.

Krell 402e: Great amp. Very powerful and will handle any speaker you wish. Power is incredible and with great detail. That said, i didn’t get all the bass that most reviewers mentioned. I thought it was "ok" in regards to bass. It was there, but it didn’t slam me to my listening chair.

Bryston 4B3: Good amp with a complete sound. I think this amp is more laid back than the SST2 version. I think those of you who found the SST2 version of this amp a little too forward with your speakers will definitely benefit from this amp’s warmth. Bryston has gone towards the "warm" side in my opinion with their new SST3 series. As always, they are built like tanks. I wouldn’t call this amp tube-like, but rather closer to what the classe audio delta 2 series sound like which is on the warm side of things.

Parasound JC1s: Good powerful amps. Amazing low end punch (far superior bass than the 402e). This amp is the amp that i consider complete from top to bottom in regards to sound. Nothing is lacking other than perhaps a nicer chassis. Parasound needs to rework their external appearance when they introduce new amps. This amp would sell much more if it had a revised external appearance because the sound is a great bang for the money. It made my 800 Nautilus scream and slam. Again, amazing low end punch.

Simaudio W7: Good detailed amp. This amp reminds me a lot of the Mark Levinson 532h. Great detail and very articulate. I think this amp will go well with bookshelves that are ported in order to compensate for what it lacks when it comes to the bass. That doesn’t mean it has no bass, but when it is no Parasound JC1 either.
Pass labs 350.5: Wow, where do i begin? maybe my first time around with the xa30.8 wasn’t as special as it was with this monster 350.5. It is just SPECTACULAR sounding with my electrostatics. The bass was THE BEST BASS i have ever heard from ANY amp period. The only amp that comes close would be the jC1s. It made me check my settings to make sure the bass was not boosted and kept making my jaw drop each time i heard it. It totally destroyed the krell 402e in every regard. The krell sounded too "flat" when compared to this amp. This amp had amazing mirange with great detail up top. In my opinion, this amp is the best bang for the money. i loved this amp so much that i ended up buying the amp that follows below.

Pass labs 250.8: What can i say here. This is THE BEST STEREO AMP i have ever heard. This amp destroys all the amps i have listed above today to include the pass labs 350.5. It is a refined 350.5 amp. It has more 3d sound which is something the 350.5 lacked. It has a level of detail that i really have never experienced before and the bass was amazing as well. I really thought it was the most complete power amplifier i have ever heard HANDS DOWN. To me, this is a benchmark of an amplifier. This is the amp that others should be judged by. NOTHING is lacking and right now it is the #1 amplifier that i have ever owned.

My current amps are Mcintosh MC601s: i decided to give these 601s a try and they don’t disappoint. They have great detail, HUGE soundstage, MASSIVE power and great midrange/highs. The bass is great, but it is no pass labs 250.8 or 350.5. As far as looks, these are the best looking amps i have ever owned. No contest there. i gotta be honest with you all, i never bought mcintosh monos before because i wasn’t really "wowed" by the mc452, but it could have been also because at that time i was using a processor as a preamp which i no longer do. Today, i own the Mcintosh C1100 2 chassis tube preamp which sounds unbelievable. All the amps i just described above have been amps that i auditioned with the C1100 as a preamp. The MC601s sound great without a doubt, but i will say that if you are looking for THE BEST sound for the money, these would not be it. However, Mcintosh remains UNMATCHED when it comes to looks and also resale value. Every other amp above depreciates much faster than Mcintosh.

That said, my future purchase (when i can find a steal of a deal) will be the Pass labs 350.8. I am tempted to make a preliminary statement which is that i feel this amp could be THE BEST stereo amp under 30k dollars. Again, i will be able to say more and confirm once i own it. I hope this update can help you all in your buying decisions!


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Thank you guys for sticking out for me and for keeping  the thread going forward. 
My simaudio 860a has now sold to one of my followers. I will regret this one but it was time for me to let it go. 
The simaudio 860a is the closest sounding amp to the luxman 900u but it doesn’t run as hot as the 900u and it’s lighter. 
Glad to see it go to one of you guys !
I will be addressing your questions later. 
I am looking at a pair of momentum 300s as we speak. 
Those momentums are Too high in price... the upgrade to m400 costs 15k and I’m not going to do that.
Anyhow guys, I got 20a outlets installed and they are running. I will get outlets down the road but for now I need to evaluate my set up with the 20a outlets and see if I can hear any real difference.
The 200.8 will hopefully hit my door by memorial weekend. I have massive expectations for them since they will have dedicated 20a outlets. I don’t want any bs or excuses. They either impress me or they will fail to do so. The xs150s were indeed amazing when I had them and they weren’t connected to 20a outlets.
I like having these power hungry magicos in a way. They are like a m1 tank. You can’t strap on a weak engine to something like it. No weak engine will get that tank in motion. 
Lastly, as I stated before: the magico will force you to go big or go home in terms of amplification. There’s no way to beat around the bush with them. 

Here are a couple of things guys:
1. I can’t speak about dag amps. I respect his work and what’s he’s done and I honestly don’t think the momentum amps are laid back. 
2. My pass 200.8s will have less power on paper than the 601s but would you Believe me if I told you the 200.5s had a massive amount of power when I owned them ? They sounded like 700 watt per channel class ab amps in terms of loudness. 

i have a chance to get a couple of mc2301 McIntosh amps locally. I wasn’t looking for more McIntosh but I sold my 601s already and it will be about 2 weeks before I see my 200.8s so I am now contemplating a pair of mc2301s that are local to me. 
Yes this is half the power of the 601s but I recall being very impressed by the 2301s when I owned them. The only thing I thought was not too good was the bottom end. It was somewhat loose. 
Decisions decisions... should I get the 2301s... or should I just hold off until the 200.8s arrive...
Well tomorrow the 2301s hit my door... it will be interesting to see what I think of them after not owning them for 2 years. 
Mcintosh 2301s are on their way. I am also thinking of using a single jl audio f212 right in the middle of both speakers for added mid bass. 
Rel feels more musical based on what I heard. That said, the only reason WHY I was (not anymore) going to get a f212 is because the same person who sold me the 2301s was going to sell me his at a great deal and he was just going to bring it with him. A lot of times I try stuff again because I come up on deals. THIS IS HOW I ENDED UP WITH 2301s yet again. I wasn’t looking for them. Just like if someone called me right now and gave me a crazy deal on a pair of krell 900e. Am I looking for them ? Hell no. Would I buy a pair if a deal came to me ? Hell yes.
My wants are momentum 400s. Possibly a pair of 900u Monos again. THOSE ARE what I desire now. THIS DOES NOT MEAN I CANT BUY ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES MY WAY AT A GOOD DEAL.
In this particular case, I had to take 3 mc2301s in order to get a deal. What the hell do I need 3 for ? Well I don’t need 3 but it’s what the deal was so I have one sitting in the corner looking all pretty.  Who knows, Maybe I list it. 
McIntosh MC2301 vs mc601:

1. 2301 is far more detailed
2. 2301 has mids that the mc601 tried to imitate but never duplicate.
3. 2301 has a larger soundstage with more air around instruments
4. 2301 has you engaged.
5. 601 has nothing on the mc2301
6. Was it a coincidence they haven’t replaced the 2301? Nope. 
i don’t even need to hear the 1.2kw. I had those long enough to say that they lose to the 2301.
In my opinion, without taking the 2.0kw into account, the 2301 is THE BEST AMP from McIntosh.
Yes when compared to the Luxman 900u, Rowland 925. I still have those ahead. Now, let’s not forget that im enjoying these amps and I attribute this to the fact that they are the first set of tube amps I use with magico. I’m now wondering about the audio research 160m. 
Gryphon sounds good with magico. No question about it. However the ref10 and McIntosh 2301 is far more musical and engaging. I’m starting to feel like magico does wonderful with a full tube set up. It becomes such an amazing combo. Tweeter doesn’t get hot, bigger mids, Fuller sound etc. 
A friend of mine wants to bring his bhk300 Monos and do a shootout against my 2301s. Lol oh damn. What if the 2301s got smoked by ps audio ?
i will tell you all, even though the 2301s are indeed a 10 year old design, it is the tubes that makes them sound as if they weren't an old outdated design. i am telling you, i sat here until 3am listening to them and they sounded great with my ref10. When my 200.8s arrive, we will see what they can do. Hell, i may have a pair of 900u monos by then as well and do a full shootout between 3 mono block companies. 
I was told that the 2301 was never replaced because McIntosh claimed they couldn’t improve it.  
Will the 200.8s smoke the 2301s? Time will tell..  there’s one thing that we all need to take into account: it’s called system synergy and there’s a A HELL LOT OF IT between the ref10 and 2301s. I’m running a total of 38 tubes right now...
One day I will. For now, the upcoming battle will be 2301s vs pass 200.8. Will solid state best tubes ? We shall see...
Thanks Riaa. I want to hear those m400s for sure but they gotta hit my door at the right price. All I can do is wait until one of my connections have a pair or something shows up. 
For now, I will try the 2301s and the 200.8s. I was told by a credible source of mine that he tried the m400s and ref10 and it was the best he’s ever heard. I trust his ears very much so. He also has a thing for the 2301s though. I will say the 2301 is a special amp. No question about it. As a matter of fact, I can say with confidence that 10 years from now it will still be a desirable amp. 
I just turned on everything again and man From a dead cold start things sound freaking incredible. The air around the instruments is insane. 38 total tubes make a huge difference. The music sounds so pleasant, so real, so crisp, so amazing in many ways and the magico just display everything. If I didn’t have the 200.8s coming, I would be ok to pull the ebrake right now and enjoy this for a few months. I almost don’t want to go back to solid state but as many of you know by now, I enjoy this journey. Maybe I will keep the 2301s as my second set of amps so I can change the flavor of my music from time to time. 
I will hold off on 160m. I want to figure out how much current the 2301s draw while idling. The 200.8 draw 750 watts just in idle. Anyone know ? 
I own the p20 and I don’t think I could tell how much power they draw by plugging them into it ? 
We shall see what will happen... my gut says it’s the synergy what I’m enjoying now. It’s not the ref10 and it’s not the 2301. It’s everything as a whole. 
The salons need a quality preamp. Bass issues were fixed by using the ref10. It was an immediate improvement. 
Ria: if you can do 900u Monos then do it. It paid off for me. Lastly, you need a ref10 with it. 
So anyhow, I’ve had a couple of friends give their input about the 2301s vs 200.8s in my current set up. The 200.8s should arrive mid September or before. This is the longest I’ve wait for any amp. I’m typically a very desperate guy once I pay for an item which is why those of you who bought stuff from me usually get tracking info from me very quickly.  
Anyhow, everyone who I’ve asked for their input on the 200.8 vs 2301 has chosen the 2301s to be the ones to remain victorious. 
They say that although the 200.8 is a better design, etc and it will attempt to sound close to tubes, it won’t duplicate real tube sound. They said that yes to the naked eye/ears the 200.8 can sound like tubes when they are sitting by themselves but once you bring a real tube amp then the differences will be obvious. Also, the synergy that I find right now is crazy incredible. Some of the best I’ve had hands down. 
You want my preliminary feeling?? Well... I will say that yes the 200.8s will lose vs the 2301s. I expect the pass 200.8s to expose the “sluggishness” of the 2301 and lack of bottom end but the 2301s sheer musicality And synergy will be enough to shut the door on the 200.8. Will I be wrong? We shall see... 

ps: the gryphon diablo is now sitting on the sidelines being part of the bench while it waits to see the outcome. :) it has now taken a back seat. 
Which adds to my point above... Yes every speaker needs attention but panels make it harder because of their size and space required. 
The most neutral amp I’ve owned was the boulder 2060. It just didn’t have any soul...
One thing I wanted to add is that the 2301 has musicality and sweetness that is absent from the 601,452,1.2kw etc. The 2301 is one special amp even if it’s a 10 year old design. My findings are with me comparing it to those amps that passed through my living room. 
In regards to the magico: this is WHY I chose to keep them. They easily let you hear what happened to the sound when you switch out components. 
If I were to try to compare audio research amps vs McIntosh amps hmmm. Ok what I can say and mind you this is from 2 different set ups. The gs150 had balls and good bass but if I compared it to the 2301s I would say that the 2301s are sweeter with more of a mellow sound that engages you. The gs150 had balls and power but I could also say that at times you could have mistaken it with a little bit of solid state sound. This is not the case with the 2301s. Nothing about the 2301s sounds like solid state. That said, I can’t comment on the 160m amps. I’ve heard from credible sources that they are the best amps to come out of ARC. I would definitely love to try them some day. 
If I were to say what audio research does best then it would preamps and Luxman would be amps. ive owned the 900u FOUR TIMES and maybe a 5th time if I decide to bring monos again. That’s perhaps the amp that made me realize how mid fi some brands are. It kills the pass labs 350.8 and anything below it. I can’t comment on the 200.8 yet but Just remember I was floored with the 200.5s. 
Ive never owned ayre but a couple of people who owned it told me that the mxr twenty Monos are smooth and detailed but they don’t have any dynamics. They can’t force bass out of the woofers. This is what’s held me back from owning those Monos. I like an amp that has full control of the speaker. 
Lastly, if you own a 900u amp and are thinking of selling it to buy something else, you better be sure of what you’re doing. I’ve had a hard time beating the 900u. The Rowland’s 925s were the only ones that did it. It’s very difficult to find a fault with the 900u. Often times when I sold
them and tried something else I realized I went backwards. 
Interesting discussion guys. Lotd of great information being shared which is what this thread is all about. 
As far as Tektons, I did look at the website and read a few reviews. Very interesting brand which could be an option down the road. That said, I want to make people aware that I have to keep my budget spread across different pieces. I can’t put 75% of it into speakers and the other 25% in amps, preamps and sources. For right now I want to keep going with the magico. 
That said, I want to share what my definition of neutral is based on my experience. 
Neutral: I think of it as any component that does not add or take away from what is being fed to it. It has no character of its own and this gives it somewhat of an analytical sound to it that many times could actually make you feel like they have no character. Perfect speaker would be the revel salon 2. That speaker sounded anemic when I first owned them and I didn’t know why. I tried many things to fix its lack of bass then many months later I got a second pair and by then I had a better front end. I was using the ref6 as a preamp and I think a pass labs amp or something like it. I recall I wasn’t ever happy with its bass and then I got my hands on the ref10 for the first time and all of a sudden I was hearing bass I didn’t hear before. I felt the room pressurize etc. I will never forget that 
Point is that neutral components do have a special place but quite often they are so rough dial them to sound how you want. A lot of work goes into this. I personally don’t like neutral amps too much. This doesn’t mean I wouldn’t try them but I rather not because they never seem engage me. 
Alright ladies and gentleman: in order to satisfy the audiophile that can’t afford the 2301s or 200.8s, I have purchased a pair of bhk 300s Monos. They will be here Friday. Are you all ready ? 
Ps audio bhk300 vs McIntosh 2301s will be the first shoot out. 
Ok I just ordered Wireworld silver eclipse 8 speaker cables and balanced cables. 
That being said, here is what my system consists of today:
1. Magico s5 mk2
2. McIntosh mc2301
3. ARC REF10
4. Esoteric K1
5. Ps audio p20
6. Wireworld silver 7 xlrs And speaker cables
7. Wireworld platinum usb 
8. Wireworld eclipse 7 Ethernet cable
9. Wireworld silver eclipse 7 power cords 10. MacBook Pro
9. Tidal with roon 
10. Dual 20 amp outlets 

That being said, out of all the systems I’ve owned, this is the most real sounding I’ve put together. I don’t recall anything sounding this real that I lived with. APPROXIMATE Msrp of $150,000 dollars. 


Alright guys: I just plugged in one silver 7 cable to my right speaker and a silver 8 to my left speaker. I played a few songs and used the “mono” mode that the ref10 has which pretty much outputs the same signal to both L and R channel. I can certainly hear more out of the speaker connected with the silver 7. Incredible how the magico tell me what’s going on.
Lastly, either I’m going deaf or I’m hearing a little more vocals on the right side. This happened before I got any cables so it’s not the cables. Hmmm. I wonder what it could be. Last time I had this phenomenon was when I had Belcanto 600m Monos. The powercords was what made the vocals shift from being dead center.
Update: I connected the Wireworld silver eclipse 8 speaker cables. Things sound warmer and seem to have lost a little bit of the 3D effect I was getting with the silver 7. Perhaps they need to be broken in. Not really sure. 
Hi guys:
I tried my third 2301 to see if maybe it was an issue with one of the other 2 and no the same slight feeling of the mids not being dead center is happening. I had my wife sit down and she said the mids to her seem to come from the middle. I also mesdured the speaker distance to my listening chair and they are almost the same distance.
Anyhow, I’m here to say that the level of liquidity is mind blowing with this set up. Am I getting massive bass? No I’m not but the rest is just incredible. I can sit here until 3am and listen to music without any fatigue. Outstanding synergy is taken over everything. I got confirmation the 200.8s will be here no later than September 14. The bhk Monos will be here on Tuesday which sucks. For now, I will the very honest: I HIGHLY HIGHLY DOUBT that the 200.8s can improve on what I am hearing right now. If they do, I’ll be shocked beyond belief.
Hell, I’d love to bring the dag m400s right now to come and play here. I don’t expect my set up to best solid state bass and dynamics but let me tell you that in liquidity andmusicality... it can break hearts...it feels as if i put 3d glasses on and things have layers of information in a 3 dimensional way.
The remaining amps that are in my head are:
pass labs 200.8s (coming in 2 weeks)
arc 160m
dag momentum 400s
luxman 900u monos
BAT 655se monos

thats pretty much it guys. I don’t have any other amps I want to try. Anything else would be something that maybe fell in my lap at a great deal.
My elite amp choices are running out. The market is starting to dry out for me in terms of amps. I’ve moved faster than most companies can produce new product.  I knew this would eventually happen. I knew I would eventually run out of amps that can capture me. I plan on holding on to 2 pairs of amps that sound very different than each other while satisfying me. I believe that the 2301s could be that first pair. The 200.8s will determine that. :) 
Man I found this song by the cars called “drive” and it’s just insane... mind blowing. I must have played it 10 times in a row because I couldn’t believe how it sounds. Just crazy amazing.
Ps audio bhk300s are in the da house!!!
i don’t know if I’ll be able to do a real comparison today but I’m anxious to try!! 
Initial impressions:
-more bass than the 2301s
-fuller sound signature 
-big soundstage which could almost be a -     little bigger than the 2301s
-great mids. 
- highs not as detailed as 2301
- level of realism is not there. 
- things dont POP out of the speaker as much as with the 2301s
- overall a very good presentation for the money. 

My PRELIMINARY FEELING: this is a poor man’s 2301. It has signs of the 2301s delivery but it never fully captures it. That said, I don’t knock the amp on anything when I take into consideration its price. 
I will say, I’d probably prefer it over the mc601s. Yep, you heard it from me. 


Well I left the bhk 300s on all night long. I want them to be fully warm when I try to listen again today. I also have them with Wireworld silver 7 power cords which is what I used the first time I played them briefly.
Let’s see what happens. I still don’t think the pass 200.8 will kill the 2301s. Let’s wait and see. One thing that I HATE about pass labs is having to wait one hour to 2 hours for them to sound best. That is never the case with the 2301s. Those things sound good dead cold.
To those 2301 owners: forget about that crappy C1100 preamp. I’ve owned it and it’s nowhere near the ref10. 
The ref10 is THE BEST PREAMP I’ve owned hands down. Never ever questioned that. I can’t wait to see what they replace it with. 
I also heard that the ayre twenty preamp is supposed to be mind blowing? 

viber: i am not done yet with the bhk300s. I am going to keep doing more comparisons with them and also let them sit idling for a while to see what happens to their sound:


UPDATE: A good connection of mine has done business with me today. I will be picking up 2 components from a brand i have no experience with:  BAT.  I am going to be picking up the bat 600se amplifier and the REX VERSION 1 tube preamp. 
Now we will do a full shoot out here and things will get A HELL OF ALOT more interesting with a new preamp in the mix. 
We shall see....
anyhow, tonight I’ve been listening back and forth between the bhk300s and the 2301s but today I chose different music. I chose more electronic music and I would say the bhk300s edges out the 2301s with this kind of music. It totally throws a bigger picture. Let’s just say for instance deadmau5. If you play a couple of his tracks you can see the bhk will give you a Little more width and depth. If you then switch to Adele, then the 2301s will engage you more. They will make you sit down and listen longer. No amp is perfect for everything. Anyone who tells you that is a liar. You need to realize that there’s no perfect amp. 
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The mic is yours. Care to share your thoughts on your tekton speaker and Wilson audio daw that you also own ?
Alright. Let’s switch gears.

Today I began to position the focals and got them to open up even more. My video will talk about what i did different and will also show you a couple of new songs that will probably be on your list of new tracks to use in your own system.
I love the flexibility found in this speaker. I have never owned such a flexible speaker before. It’s huge but it also disappears even in a medium size room. I keep getting impressed by it.
No i havent rolled any tubes on the preamp. 
Ok guys: the BAT 600se amp sounded decent when I first plugged it in then then at about the 2 hour mark it began to hit its stride. I really think this amp is amazing for the money. This amp really doesn’t lack anything. I can’t think of a bad thing to say about it. It is clear, powerful, dead quiet and it runs hot as hell but hey it’s great bargain. This amp could be the best amp I’ve owned for under $5500 street price. 
Let’s keep something into perspective: im using the ref10 as my preamp which im sure helps the amp tremendously. What I hear it is capable of might not be something some of you would be able to hear if you have subpar preamps. 
I’d say this amp can hold its own against the 350.8, hegel. No it won’t beat the luxman. 
Some of the best bang for the buck I’ve heard is the Rex preamp with the bhk300s Monos. Id say this combo is awesome and about 80% of the ref10 and mc2301s. Highly recommended for those of you that can’t afford the 2301/ref10. 
Bhk:  musical amps. Good mids and highs. Certainly enough for most people. 

Bat 600se: a work horse that reminds me of krell due to its massive size. Awesome dynamics and true to the source. Nothing is lacking in my opinion. This amp is a steal for what it typically sells for. 
Guys:
 the bat is great. No real loss of anything in my opinion and it has balls. Amazing component.