Folks
Since I’ve released my last two 2500 videos, I’ve already sold one and two of the manufacturers (who i don’t represent) showcased on my channel have inquired and want to bring a stromtank unit into their facilities in order to evaluate it in their controlled sound rooms .
I don’t want to give out too much information, but yes my efforts are clearly being heard via YouTube and I’ve gotten incredible feedback from people in the industry about the performance of my system since I introduced the s2500.
You all realize a lot of brands follow me right? I just don't wanna be vocal about it but yes a lot of eyes are on me because I do what nobody does which is to display the ultra high end.
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I can’t believe this entire time we have been talking to a guy who disguises himself!
Man - talk about deception and not being 100% REAL. I’M DONE TALKING TO HIM!
@viber6
I’m taking off my gloves and lending them to you. Go ahead and punch it out ✊👊 with him. You just got a boat load of ammunition from @thyname !!!!
@thyname - i appreciate this!!! I wish you had been here before !
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Don't worry about me - i show my face. You are a troll. Thanks
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You all watching this movie?
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@mrdecibel
Understood. I will remove my earlier post and forget anything was said .
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I have tried quite a few power conditioners and to be sincere, most of them end up forcing you to buy their powercords or else the benefits aren’t maximized.
I have had a puritan labs 156 in the box, new and sealed for about 4 months. I intended to try it but then i became a stromtank dealer didn’t get to try it.
I am not saying power conditioners aren’t worth it, but i hate having to buy more PCs to make them work.
For msb, i like stromtank and audioquest Niagara 5000. For small watt amps, I’d say shunyata omega. The synergistic research Powercell is good but best if used with a full loom of their cables.
Ps audio p20 gets smoked by shunyata Denali V1 which is their older . model....
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Sure they can have a demo. Fly into town and come listen 😃
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@cleeds
You should call each power conditioner brand and ask them ? Then arrive at your own conclusions... Nobody has answers for everything. There’s no such thing.
- Why do powercords change the sound ?
- Why do footers make a difference?
- Why does a fuse change the sound ?
- Why are cable lifters important?
The thing is today's topic is focused on the stromtank but don't forget about the topics above. Some things can't be explained folks and I'm shocked that this hasn't been somewhat"accepted". Also, I'm VERY SURPRISED TOO that most people who spend hours pondering 🤔 and questioning are folks who aren't even buying any of this to begin with.
It's like me worrying about the neighbors Tesla Plaid that destroys supercars and me saying " the Tesla Plaid sucks because it can't drift and it doesn't have an exhaust note so i don't feel connected with the vehicle or that it is way too quiet , etc etc ". WHY would I care THAT MUCH if i know I'm not buying one or have money to do so??? It's like spending braincells on stupid stuff...i don't understand it.
The world would be better if we had answers for everything but hell we are STILL trying to figure out how DB COOPER jumped off a plane with $200k in cash and never got caught.
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Bottom line is most dedicated lines only provide a direct path of electricity to your gear from the breaker box. They don't really do sh!t else folks. Let's keep it real.
You still need money for great power conditioners and the hustle of top end Powercords. I'm determined to eventually not rely on expensive crazy powercords. This doesn't mean I'll be using crappy PCs on power amps but I'm done spending 30gs on PCs. The stromtank, for me, leaves me happy and not changing stupid powercord. Yes i still have powercords laying around and collecting dust but I'm gonna list a lot of them soon.
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I will say screw measurements soon and just unplug my system from the stromtank and then plug it into the wall outlets... The brain will let you hear the changes rather easy
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The system is performing at such a high level that it is scary. Some suggested for tubes to be added and others want a turntable in order to see what happens.
If i add tubes, we compromise ultimate transparency and if i add a turntable then some might be against the "popping" sounds and prefer the extreme cleanliness of digital formats.
You all see what I mean? It’s a tough balancing act, but if what you want is ultimate transparency and the absolute honesty, this system has it in spades. It simply can not lie to your ears. Some people criticize the system based on the music which i understand 100% but very few folks pump the brakes and question the song.
Is it the song that sounds metallic?🤔
Is it bright because it is classic rock?
Why does my car stereo sound better when using serious XM?
Most of the music we are used to hearing is optimized to sound great on average systems but an ultra revealing system isn’t going to follow those footsteps. You are paying to "decode" everything that normal systems can’t do; the small nuances, extra bells and whistles in the recording that are left behind.
If you are seeking for a carbon copy of the sound produced by average systems but with more salt and pepper, yes this system doesn’t take you there. That said, one thing i can tell you all is that once you get used to this system and you listen to a less revealing system, your ears will absolutely let you know that you are listening to an inferior presentation. It’s as if your brain let’s you know that there is a lot of stuff missing. The closer we get to the source, the more we expose in the recording but some may not want to hear all recordings for what they are.
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5 dedicated lines... 30a, 30a, 20a, 20a, 30a(220v)
All with 10 gauge wire and aftermarket outlets.
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Hi everyone
So since we have been discussing the stromtank for quite sometime, i would like pause for a moment and talk about something we've never EVER talked about before: streaming content.
I have been communicating with a top audio industry expert who brought to my attention something quite interesting. I am copying and pasting and what i want is to hear your thoughts on this subject. This has been an eye opener for me and could totally change my perspective with regards to streaming going forward.
"Streaming quality is inferior to playing files from a HD, and it is always changing based on your current bandwidth. You just never know what kind of compression you are actually listening to (it does not matter what Qobuz telling you about the quality, it is passed their control - think about the times you see Netflix/amazon and the quality changes) . A lot of the comments you get about “sterility” is due to that. You spend a fortune, not to mention precious time, assembling an incredible system, why would you compromise the sound right at the source?"
This comment above kinda slapped me in the face and it's now definitely going to make me change a few things going forward. Please comment !
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When I tell you he is an industry expert, he is... His system and room are probably 2.5 million dollars.... Believe me, this isn’t coming from an internet forum member...
He is as serious as a heart attack... Owns magico M9 speakers...
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@cleeds
"It’s pretty clear you have some AC problems here. That certainly explains your interest in battery solutions."
Ugh...i was to go off right now but let me keep my cool...can one of the ac experts on here explain to him how you can you use s regular outlet on a 220v 30a... 🥺
I don't have time for this nonsense and i know there are a ton of electrical gurus because I see their posts occasionally.
Much appreciated if someone can.
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I'm buying dsd music soon and will make an attempt at trying to live with it
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The above video is with a cold stromtank that was literally powdered on and components were plugged right after it. Zero time for the stromtank to stabilize its internal electronics.
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I am still waiting on the cartridge and that’s why no turntable has been showcased.
Pretty soon we will be able to enjoy one of the best shootouts on my channel folks.
Thank you to everyone that’s helped make this a reality. There might be a special guest show up on my channel around October. He is a well known reviewer who will be coming to judge my system! (Oh oh 😂)
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Music server and dac.
The 3010 and 3060 don’t need any help. Those you can connect with an orange Home Depot extension cord and plug them into your bathroom outlet or the outlet you use to power your Christmas tree in December.
If i didn’t have them, I’d plug in the linestage in stromtank too.
Things such as clocks, transports, CD players, turntables and phono stage should be plugged into the stromtank. I just don't happen to have a system that has those components.
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Coming tonight:
Dsd music makes an appearance on my channel for the first time.
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"Clarity" that others say it’s too bright and in your face ? Interesting 🤔... We can’t please everyone lol and then I'm being told it's more analog now but you claim it's veiled....we definitely do not hear the same and now we know why the audio industry will continue to move forward and continue to push out all sorts of products. This is certainly a subjective hobby where there is no clear definition as to what is the standard and what isn't when it comes to sound reproduction.
At least in the Olympics we know that we are being scored and have records to break so we know what we are aiming for and everyone is clear on what they need to pursue but not it's not that way in this hobby.
I'm glad i am in a position to share everything in my lab 😀
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Why is this system the best system I have ever had in the room?
Find out today... PLUS, SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT at the end of today's video!
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My plan is to have the most natural and organic interview. He's never done an interview with a YouTuber (haven't seen one) and i want to be sure he's comfortable. I want to learn more about what it takes to build a speaker: how many man hours? Is there any voicing involved? What challenges does he face with materials that we don't know about? Which speaker has been the most difficult to design? Q7? M6? Why ?
Why did he create the A series? What does he have at home ? Which is his preferred speaker ? And of course, i plan to be in front of the M9s and hopefully record videos from inside the room. It will be the most expensive speaker i have ever been in front of so I'm absolutely excited to say the least because I don't know what that level of a speaker brings to the table.
More to come!
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@carey1110
And because this is the most popular thread, i will implement damage control. If i feel the thread begins to get derailed and it’s a constant confrontation, i will just message the moderators and let them know. They will warn the perpetrators directly and give them a warning. I have to be more diplomatic and use the resources available to me. I won’t wrestle anymore. I am done doing that.
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In an effort to get this thread on track,
I am going to be posting a video today using gryphon vanta speaker cables. I inserted them 3 days ago so they are settled in. I want you all to hear the difference in tonality when comparing to transparent opus.
One particular subject that isn’t talked about here is HOW MUCH CLARITY is too much of a good thing?
Here’s food for thought: if i use a full transparent loom, the clarity is incredible BUT if you crank things up, it doesn’t lead to long listening sessions. That said, the extreme clarity is amazing at low volume levels as well as under moderate levels.
There is always the question of the Network boxes that these cables have which could be interacting with Boulder (cables are tuned for Boulder and msb). I am in search of a full loom of cables at half the price of transparent opus without boxes
It’s a HUUUUGE balancing act that one needs to address and decide on. Anyhow, I’ll post a video shortly.
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@cleeds
I’d appreciate it if you don’t address me. You and i have our differences and i don’t want to start a fire. You appeared out of nowhere and since you showed up, you have been argumental. You love to quote others and debate them each and every time. I’m not getting caught in that with you. I got better things to do. Thank you
Respectfully - Jay
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Leave me your thoughts on this last video. There's ZERO AFTERMARKET POWERCORDS. All running through stromtank with the exceptions being Boulder 3010 and 3060.
Gryphon Vanta Series Speaker Cables are fully settled and i think they are doing some good things. Let me know what you guys hear.
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This last presentation is more relaxed , looong listening sessions, all the bass is there and bigger soundstage than with opus speaker cables. I believe the opus powercords pin point the source and they let you know that you are playing digital. That is not the case with the Gryphon vanta speaker cables. You forget about the source with these cables. To regain more clarity, we can insert opus PC in the music server and maybe the dac again.
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Just inserted opus PCs on the dac
- More clarity
- About the same bass as stock PCs
- A Little more imaging
- Tweeter seems a little more extended
- Less ability to crank up the volume due to too much happening at once
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82db = average listening levels for me. Once I go above that, sheer clarity gets to be punishing.
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I appreciate the offer. I have no reason to not believe you. Just remember that each of our journeys is different and in order to truly know how good a system is, one needs to have something else to compare it to and i don’t mean via YouTube. Most folks don’t get out of their homes because of personal reasons but this also limits their knowledge and exposure of other great systems.
Have ANY OF YOU ever noticed i don’t compare my system to any of your systems? HAS ANYONE HERE EVER EVEN STOPPED TO THINK WHY? 🤔
On the other hand, there are many people with YouTube channels comparing their system to mine (let’s not go there) and i suppose it is an honor to be used as the "measuring stick " by some. But seriously, I’d like for ANYONE here to answer the question above.... HOPEFULLY at least ONE PERSON here understands why i don’t do such thing.
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Thanks for the review!
I am very excited to get it in here.
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That’s not a tank lol. Oh my!!! Thats a yacht!
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Nah... It could be said that most of us listen alone or with the cat and dog because for the most part women don't have any interest in discovering how the sound changes with footers or cables lol.
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And we don't have transparent opus speaker cables inserted...then this begs the question: do we need the $40,000 cables in the system when the powercords are doing an exceptional job at creating tons of resolution and clarity? I am torn here and may need to go back and forth but if I'm looking to save some money I'd say stick to a quality speaker cable and use opus powercords.
In my members only section of my website, i will go more in depth as to what the opus speaker cables are doing and how the Boulder 3060 interacts with them.
I am working on the 3010 is 2110 raw footage as well and my raw uncut opinion on which preamp to get and why.
The website is almost there guys. It's SO MUCH WORK!
Stay tuned !
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Someone is always going to complain. It's human nature.
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It’s so clear to me that most folks on here aren’t interested in hearing from the "gurus" or "crusaders" who preach HARD on here yet they don’t even have a system listed on their profile. That’s like me going into a Mercedes-Benz dealership and criticize the prices of these vehicles yet little do they know that i took the bus to get to the dealer...
Some people want to eat caviar but pay beef jerky prices. Some others want to drive a Mercedes Benz S class but want to pay Hyundai prices. If they can’t afford the caviar or Mercedes S class, they have crucify those who have the means to buy either as well as lecture the masses how stupid it is to pay so much money for a car or caviar.
Maybe i should join a Ferrari forum and tell them that i know of a faster car for less money and save them from paying expensive vehicle maintenance?
Hmmm 🤔 i wonder how that would work out for me once they find out i drive a Ford...
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I already told you - we don't see eye to eye. Don't address me. Thanks.
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Alright folks
Give me your selection from the video above. Which presentation did you like best ?
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My lines are dedicated lines...coming from the panel box inside the house and the ac system is connected on the panel outside the house. I don't understand this narrative that i have compromised outlets. I have 5 dedicated outlets with 10 gauge wire and aftermarket outlets. 20a, 20a, 30a, 30a, 30a-220v.
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I’m no electrician... I leave that to the pros. I pull out my wallet and pay the pros to do the work that the manufacturers recommend.
It’s simple: pay a dude to run wires from your circuit breaker directly into your room. This isn’t rocket science. Grab one stupid end of a thick wire and plug it into the breaker panel and run the stupid ass wire through the wall and make it come out through a hole in the wall and then grab a decent outlet and connect the wire into the outlet. Lastly, make sure the outlets are in phase so there is no bass cancellation issues.
Let’s not make this job complicated folks:
- Go to home Depot and buy thick wire and 20a breaker
- Buy aftermarket outlet of choice
- Find a dude on Angie’s list that does electrical work
- Have the dude run the wire you bought at home Depot from your breaker all the way to your desired location
- Pay the dude the money agreed upon for the job
- Plug in your electronics into the new outlet
- Grab a drink and chill.
Step by step how to do dedicated lines for your system. I believe my 6 year old can understand how to do the job too.
Now I’m anxiously waiting for the bashing to commence by the electrical gurus that lurk on here.
Oh yea - stromtank still embarrasses any dumb dedicated lines. Just wait until i drop the video of a guy who i sold a STROMTANK to and how his system has transformed even more than the $15,000 dollars he paid to some electrical gurus who supposedly also did Michael Fremers electrical work. Just wait and see...
The proof is in the pudding so just wait and see...
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