Music that has a hold of me beyond understanding


I just took a musical bath. I listened, for the umpteenth time, to Puccini's La Boheme. I can't begin to understand how someone could ever create such a thing of beauty. There are many 'songs' that compete in their individual beauty, but no other opera, play, or body of singing that even comes close, for me. You?

newbee

@newbee Thank you for this post. Yes. I've wondered all my life what it is about music that has such incredible power over us. Music defined the course of my life and gives me energy when nearly everything else takes. 

@jeffrey125 The Requiem! Le Grande Macabre! The violin concerto!

To bring things way down back to earth a bit—for me the Be Good Tanya’s and the Wailin Jennies do this. Every plucked banjo string, every accordion squeeze, every blended voice just take hold of my heart and rivet my thoughts. 

I must confess that I heard Lennon’s Let it Be in my early, pre-cynical teens. It is deeply held, close to my heart. That is mostly lyrics, for music, Angela Hewitt playing the Goldberg variations in one continuous sitting at Herbst theater, and the SF Symphony and chorus performing the B Minor Mass were the most transporting experiences, if I discount the Dead in the 70’s where Lysergic Acid Diethlymide and sympathetic audiences had something to do with it. 

@mahgister

She can sing Bach, Verdi, Shubert or Schumann or any spirituals and would had sing jazz over any other female singer...

A matter of taste, surely.

How many Jazz fans enjoy Jazz sung with a classical vibrato?

Sarah Vaughan is perhaps the most "operatic" of Jazz singers but she still doesn’t sound like an opera singer.

I’ve never enjoyed Joan Baez or more recently, Rhiannon Giddens, precisely due to their vibrato. Giddens trained as an opera singer -- not sure where Baez acquired it, but to my ear, at least, it sounds very out of place in the Folk genre.

Perhaps I’m biased towards preserving a certain integrity when it comes to musical genres. No doubt, there are others who are all for breaking down the characteristics that traditionally define genres and fusing them into something new.

I can’t imagine classical guitar played with a Blues-style vibrato, for example but perhaps there are those who would find it appealing.

More to the OP’s point, as music is a language that operates on multiple levels, simultaneously, I don’t find it surprising that we may be strongly affected by a certain piece without necessarily being able to discern why or, that we may not be able to even name the particular/combination of emotions, it evokes.

A composer (presumably) is intimately familiar with how various factors such as time signature, key, intervals, timbre, dissonance/consonance, density, etc. are likely to impact a listener. As to why-- well, that’s a more difficult question.

All of what you say made sense for me...

But listen Anderson singing " deep river"or any other spirituals...

And dont say to me that she will not be able to sing anything if she wanted to...😊

And i love Joan Baez for the same reason you reject it... in any genre i listen the artist specific voice not the genre ... I dont listen many folk singer...But Baez among few others i did because she add something unique...As for Dylan...

But most actual folk singers dont appeal much to me... Some do as Dylan and Baez for example... I prefer 19 and 18 century English folk music ...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bytFrsL4_4&list=PLXa3P16r0_ytEKZJJzXxmNCV_vuQ4TiHg

English 19 century folk music ;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrXCVJOwil8

 

I like Russian folk music too ...As much as i like Cohen the Canadian poet brother of Dylan :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYHPEz-9sCM&list=OLAK5uy_l9_lnnIMYoEqt0XXjoHw6E4t1XAtDcsXY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktGgPkmW-A0&list=OLAK5uy_l9_lnnIMYoEqt0XXjoHw6E4t1XAtDcsXY&index=2

But it is always a specific singer i listen to not to a genre or to some culture...

I listen even to some specific Thibetan folk singer 😊

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyutcSi0Rx8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvEXnSpQ220

But i dont listen folk genre in general as a genre...

Each singer is unique...That is what matter for me...

 

 

A matter of taste, surely.

How many Jazz fans enjoy Jazz sung with a classical vibrato?

Sarah Vaughan is perhaps the most "operatic" of Jazz singers but she still doesn’t sound like an opera singer.

I’ve never enjoyed Joan Baez or more recently, Rhiannon Giddens, precisely due to their vibrato. Giddens trained as an opera singer -- not sure where Baez acquired it, but to my ear, at least, it sounds very out of place in the Folk genre.

Perhaps I’m biased towards preserving a certain integrity when it comes to musical genres. No doubt, there are others who are all for breaking down the characteristics that traditionally define genres and fusing them into something new.

I can’t imagine classical guitar played with a Blues-style vibrato, for example but perhaps there are those who would find it appealing.

More to the OP’s point, as music is a language that operates on multiple levels, simultaneously, I don’t find it surprising that we may be strongly affected by a certain piece without necessarily being able to discern why or, that we may not be able to even name the particular/combination of emotions, it evokes.

A composer (presumably) is intimately familiar with how various factors such as time signature, key, intervals, timbre, dissonance/consonance, density, etc. are likely to impact a listener. As to why-- well, that’s a more difficult question.