Moon 761 -> 861 upgrade but keeping the 791 preamp/streamer


Hi there, I have a Moon 791/761 combo that feeds a pair of Wilson Watt/Puppy 50th Anniversary speakers. I’m looking for opinions on upgrading from the Moon 761 to the 861, under the assumption that I keep my Moon 791 as the streamer/DAC/preamp.

I should note that my listening is all-digital: Qobuz + local library via Roon. No analog sources — and no plans to go that route.

I love the 791 + 761 combo, especially given how clean and detailed it sounds. But I am wondering what the 861 might bring to the table, especially with Wilsons or other super-revealing speakers. Is it a real step up in terms of grip, dynamics, soundstage, etc.? Or is the 761 already "most" of the way there? Finally, am I missing out on some weird incompatibility between the 791 and the 861? I doubt it, but thought I’d ask.

Thanks in advance for your comments and opinions.

 

 

debrajray

Thanks @mgrif104 I'm definitely going to audition them as well by swapping out the amps and holding the 791 fixed.

@freediver thanks for reminding me about cables; I've been meaning to audition the Transparent (ultra) and will do so. I have actually listened to the Tellurium Q at a friend (who also has a Moon setup though with different but also excellent speakers,  the comparison isn't fully controlled), but the Analysis Plus Oval 9s --- the ones I have --- sound better to me. These are in no way "standard OFC" cables :-) 

 

@debrajray it is known that "lots of books" do not serve any meaningful room treatment purpose. Their absorption and diffusion are highly marginal, at best, and indeed only for the highest frequencies (shortest wavelengths).

That’s just wishful thinking on some people’s part.

I agree with some other responders that there’s no point in spending quite a lot of $$$ on an 8-series upgrade without having a very well sorted-out listening room, acoustically.

As least from a sound quality perspective. Now, if you want to do it for the purpose of feeling good about having their top-end unit, that’s another matter.

@bimmerlover a veritable voice of reason! I agree with you, even though I'm going to go over to my dealer and listen for the fun of it. I don't have a well-treated room (acoustically speaking) --- and don't intend to turn my living room into a listening room either --- and I think I can do better on the speaker cables, so I am "unbalancing" what I have by going for the 861. So: better cables is a more natural step. Finally, nope, I don't need to feel good about having their top-end unit. Well put; thanks!

Grover Huffman Pharoah speaker and interconnect cables are damn good cables.  I have a full loom of them in my refernce system.  I have also used Zavfino Silver Dart IC’s - they are excellent but more expensive cable than the Grover Huffman stuff.