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Mini Monitors - Dynaudio and JM Labs

After 11 years with my Thiel CS22 floorstanders, I’m ready to make a change and have decided to try out some mini monitors because of room size 15’x17’x7.5’ and the fact that I have a REL Stadium III to take care of the low end. I’ve narrowed my search down to two brands, Dynaudio and JM Labs. I’m looking at the Micro Utopia Be and either to the three Dynaudio models, Confidence C1, Special 25, or Contour 1.3SE.

I listen to pretty much all types of music but the majority being Jazz, Rock, and Alternative. One thing about the Thiel’s that I have always had a difficult time dealing with was that the listening position was extremely critical. The way that I have my speakers positioned, only one person at a time could truly enjoy the music from my Thiel’s. I’m hoping that I can improve my predicament with the speakers listed above as well as moving a step up in the quest for the absolute sound. I believe I have plenty of power to drive any of the speaker listed. A list of my associated equipment is listed “my system”.

Please, your recommendations or comments are welcome if you have compared or owned any speakers listed above.
islandflyfisher
goatwuss
877 posts
 
"I just listened to Dynaudio C1's once again this past weekend. My opinion hasn't changed. Sorry to say. The Micro Be's mop the floor with these monitors."

I'm assuming you listened to these two pairs of speakers back to back, within the context of the same room and the same system? Because otherwise, your evaluation would be meaningless.
washline
202 posts
 
I've heard the C1s in a number of different contexts, with a variety of amplifiers, and no, I've never been very impressed with them. But I wanted to be. I really liked one of the dealers.

"Because otherwise, your evaluation would be meaningless."

Only to you perhaps. To me it wasn't meaningless at all.
islandflyfisher OP
94 posts
 
Purchased the JM Lab Mirco Utopia's with Utopia stands. They are incredible in every way.
aktchi
274 posts
 
Goatwuss: I missed your post in which you wrote: "Aktchi - We are not talking about low frequencies, we are talking about high frequencies above 25khz. I certainly agree with you about the low frequency point..."

Clearly, you missed the whole point. It had nothing to with low or high. It was that an inaudible frequency, in the presence of another frequency (which may or may not be audible), can produce audible effects.

Take your favorite 25 khz. If you had 25 khz and 15 khz present simultaneously, their combination will produce 10 khz and 40 khz, the former of which will be audible.

Heck, if yo uhad 25 khz and 35 khz present simultaneously, both inaudible, their combination will produce 10 khz and 60 khz, the former being audible.

These are trivial example, actual music contains much more complex superpositions.
goatwuss
877 posts
 
Aktchi - Can you please refer me to a reputable source explaining this phenominom?

Also - For clarity, the "original" dispute was whether or not a tweeter claiming 40khz has "higher extension" than a tweeter claiming 25khz. Your point that "Take your favorite 25 khz. If you had 25 khz and 15 khz present simultaneously, their combination will produce 10 khz and 40 khz, the former of which will be audible" may be true (I'm interested in learning about this if so), but it is not relevant to "high-end extension"
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