MBL 9011 v/s Boulder 2050 monos


Hi,
Would like a shootout between the two monster amps. I would like to choose between the two based on my preferences:
1)Extreme neutrality
2)Ultimate transparency
3)Superb sound staging.
Would encourage folks to describe in as objective terms as possible (Lows, mids highs etc)
Enjoy.
-Sthekepat
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That'll be fun I'm sure, the shootout between those beasts! :)

I'm just thinking that in the setup you have, I would look at the speakers first for an improvement. I have heard the Ushers several times and I'm not that impressed with them. Given your room size, I strongly recommend an audition of the mbl 111 or 116 speakers before you do anything else.

In any case I'd love to hear your views after the shootout! Both are fantastic amps.
Sthekepat
you might try and add the Karan mono blocks to the shootout of the beasts. Karans are a paltry 1500 watts and and a damping factor that is 20,000. Neutrality is a strong suit of the amps and there is a great review in HiFi+ comparing them against some of the most current designs.Have fun gunslinger!Cheers Dennis
I totally agree with Osgorth. I say go for it with the 9011's and 101E's. You will be amazed.
Off topic, I am thinking of getting MBL 121's to go with my own powered bass units (to save money over the larger 116) and with my Atma-sphere MA1's.

I sit pretty close to the speaker position - 7 feet, and speakers can only live about 2 feet from the back wall - side walls are 5' and 10' away, in a fairly lively room.

I can't audition the speakers in my room, Any thoughts if this will be too much omni energy for me? I have corner tunes but can't do much more in terms of room treatment. I was also told I may have to get rid of my Acoustic Resonators with MBL's.

I love the 101e's but have not heard the smaller MBL's.
The MBL is not the most transparent amp. FM Acoustics and Telos 2500 from Goldmund beat it at that. I own all of them so I know. I also own the Krell One which is equally detailed, maybe even more. The thing that the MBLs do well is that they deliver amazing power without sounding powerful. They are a good compromise between the super resolution of some of the solid states and the beauty of some amps like the Wavacs which come very close to the detail, are very refined but can not drive tough speakers with anywhere the performance of the 9011s. I have "only" heard the 2060 in my system from Boulder, my impression is that the differences you described are quite accurate. That was using the amps on the full spectrum with difficult to drive speakers in a smallish room.

Speakers really matter, to state the obvious, in assessing amps. My comments are based on the amps driving above 200hz with Gryphon Poseidons or the full range with Marten Coltranes. Actually, one of the better results was bi amping with the 9011 and Wavac 833 v1.3s. Although there are techincal reasons this would not be the easiest match on earth, it actually worked fine, especially with some equalization.

A lot of people really liked the 6010d preamp. I have owned it and compared it with many of the preamps people write about such as teh VTL 7.5 mkii, Krell Two, wavac, Lyra connoisseur, audio research ref3 and other. Again, a mid point, great bass but not at the caliber of some of the very best preamps (also not at their price).

In my view, the 9011s are one of the best products from MBL including their front ends which are even better.

At this level this is all about taste!!