Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Showing 50 responses by rok2id

The Prime Minister comes in about .50 , if you don’t hear his speech you are a fool .


This statement is laughable. The entire world, and most of Canada thinks of this guy as a clown, which he is. All show, no substance. His always SAYS the right thing, but DOES absolutely nothing.


When asked, after the third incident, how many times had he done this, he answered "I don’t remember."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NKCx7P_mpo

Suggested internet searches:

Trudeau in India (clown)---- Missing Indigenous women in Canada (ineptness)

Reminds of that saying, They were born on third base, but thought they hit a triple. Third base is being next to the U.S.A.

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BTW, when they actually get the $40,000, PM me with the news. As if that excuses kidnapping and murder. And this was as late as 1990s.


He ’s not his dad but, he has some of him, and that is enough for now to keep the oil companies of the world from
destroying him and killing us .

Informed sources say Fidel Castro is his daddy.

Humans going extinct?   Can you think of a more deserving species?

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Well, that was not the point I wanted to make.   Go to the last few minutes of the clip.  If would help if you listened with an open mind.

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Rok, how many zero's is in $2.3 trillion?

12?   What's this all about?  Is this how much the Jazz Queen is worth?

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 $2.3T is a bargain for that kind of infrastructure 😊.  


The Frogman and I agree at last!

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A human and musical tragedy.  Too bad their fathers and brothers did not fight for them.  Humans always seem to fight harder for evil than against it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5THWHSdO1lE

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Trying to stay away from politics, just a simple thought,,,if all that money was spent otherwise, I guess we would see less 'issues' than likes of the one that you have posted in that video on the previous page...


I used to think like that, I thought, boy, what they could have done with all that money, then, as I grew older and understood more, I learned that when the Policies, the programs, the weapon systems or the actions /  'excursions' disappear, so does the money that funds them.  

So if you want to help with the situation discussed in my clip, you would have to go to the congress and ask for $2.4 trillion to stop the migration of Africans / Muslims  into Europe.  ahahahahahahahahahahaha.  Sorry.  A spontaneous outburst.

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Either the concept of democracy is corrupt or worse, the humankind is.
We are surounded with hypocrisy, ignorance and silence on one side and with sheer greed for power and money on other and I am not optimist about possible changes that might solve any of those things


The whole point of the piece was this;

When the TRUTH is no longer allowed to be spoken or heard, written or read, it's game, set, match.  So, how do you enslave the world?  First control the schools.  Then the press / media / internet.  Then destroy the meaning of the language.
"The long march to the institutions."

The writings(warnings) of George Orwell and Ayn Rand are no longer fiction.
I think it was Lenin who said "The Capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with."

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As the only REAL  Aficionado left on JFA,  my take.

The Black and white performance was good, but seemed well rehearsed.  Sort of MJQish.   But no complaints.  

The color version was more boisterous .  More like Jazz's true element and spirit.  Notice how when McLean turned to Griffin, Griffin was not ready. :)   Loved that.  Much better audience support.  Neither can be faulted no matter how Snarky a snarky is, but I would rather have been at the color version.

I bet the B&W version was in Europe.   Notice how Blakey's drum set grew from the B&W to the color.  But more does not mean better.

Nice clips.

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To quote the last remaining aficionado on JFA:
As always, The Frogman is precise and concise. :)

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The Frogman's First Law can not determine the Best, but it will narrow the field.

Here you are, all alleged Aficionados, talking about the best Trumpet player, and NO ONE has even mentioned Armstrong!!!   Sad state of affairs.  Sad.

The unwashed will decide who is best.  They always do.

My vote:   Armstrong or Harry "Sweets" Edison or Roy Eldridge or rok2id(most unappreciated of all time).

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Jazz is not supposed to be something that’s required to sound like jazz.


Perhaps he should reconsider this statement.

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Easy, but probably foolish to question a genius on the very subject of his genius without digging a little deeper into the full meaning of something he has said.

Personally, I like showers ……and I don’t like lists 😊

He is not the only one to try and distance himself from Jazz.  You put a microphone and camera on these guys and they all try to dis Jazz.  Hell, makes me wonder why they didn't record for Deutsche Grammophon or Hyperion.  Or better yet, why didn't the Berliners and Karajan ever do a session for Blue Note?

I could explain all this, but in doing so, Miss Tammy would probably shut us down again.

The one exception to this phenomenal  is Wynton.  We should all be thankful that someone sure knew what they were doing when he got the job at Lincoln Center.

Lists??  Read my post again.  The word 'List' does not appear.
You like showers?  Great.   The unwashed still rule!!

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***** I think you miss the point…..surprising for the last remaining true JA. The point is that Jazz doesn’t always have to sound like a traditional form of Jazz….the way it is “supposed” to sound.*****

Sounds like you are putting words in his mouth.

***** Break boundaries? Absolutely.*****

You break too many boundaries and you will find yourself outside the realm of Jazz.  Then The Frogman's First Law comes into effect.

***** It is an ever evolving art form.*****
There is a limit to how much a thing can evolve before it becomes something altogether different.  They say Birds are Dinosaurs, I won't argue, just try telling that to T-Rex.

Actually, I think they object to the word JAZZ, not  necessarily the music Jazz.  They don't like the history and / or origin of Jazz.   If Jazz had been started with and by someone like Ornette Coleman in NYC, it would all be cool.

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Some here seem to think I started listening to The Duke and Armstrong back in the 30s and 40s and got stuck and never left.

I started my Jazz journey with fusion. By journey, I mean buying records. At one time I had more ’Weather Report’ than ’Miles Davis’. More Al di Meola and Metheny than Coltrane. And just as much Lee Ritenour as Wayne Shorter. All on LP. My only Shorter LP was ’Atlantis’, recently posted.

Then along came CD, and everything got reissued, and I discovered REAL Jazz. With the help of Stereo Review.

So I went from the ’new’ stuff, back to the real stuff, which is what Shorter plays.

pjw, I loved your joke.  Wagner and 'The Ring' is an interesting choice to start your Classical journey.

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First of all, I am only commenting on what Shorter SAID in an interview as reported by you. Nothing I have said is meant to be a criticism of Shorter the Jazz artist. I have spent too much money on his recordings to even go there.
Over the years, I have noticed a trend of Jazz greats, during interviews, to say in effect, they are much more than mere Jazz players. Including, if memory serves, The Duke himself. All of this to the delight of the interviewers. Does not happen in any other genre. Hmmmmm, makes a body wonder.

I do not define Jazz. No one person does. The Jazz audience itself makes that definition. And when you leave the reservation, they call you out. Exhibt A: Miles Davis. That S**t Miles is playing ain’t Jazz - Wynton Marsalis.


***** “Bebop is Chinese music” - Louis Armstrong*****
Your Point? hahahahahahaha Surely you are not challenging Pops!!

One of my most recent, a twofer, Shorter and Wynton.

"Contemplation" - Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra with Wynton Marsalis feat. Wayne Shorter 2CD set on Blue Engine Label.   Highly recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1sWfVM3RJQ

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Wadada Leo Smith:

Played with Leo in High School.  He was 1st Trumpet, I was 5th.  I tried to tell the band director there was no such thing as 5th Trumpet.  He said, "there is now."  They were always jealous of me.

Leo is no longer in the same universe as Sousa.  Wow!   
His Dad was a very good Blues player.

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Hahahahahahahah    He had a lot more notes to play than I ever did.
I imagine the music business requires a great sense of humor and great patience.

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The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz

CBS Records 1987

Great 5CD Box Set. Best Booklet ever! These are the actual recordings that are in the Smithsonian set. The Recorded dates match.

CD #1

Jelly Roll Morton, piano solo: (JOPLIN) "Maple Leaf Rag" (1938)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz9AMJ5f2yM
recorded 6/38 Washington D.C.

Dead Man Blues -- Jelly Roll Morton’s Red Hot Peppers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgqK3DYLa8
recorded 9/21/26 Chicago

Potato Head Blues -- Louis Armstrong and His Hot Seven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ccXJ0Y-CI
recorded 5/10/27 Chicago

West End Blues -- Louis Armstrong and His Hot Five
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anSPJAg3uw
recorded 6/28/28 Chicago

Black Bottom Stomp -- Jelly Roll Morton’s Red Hot Peppers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJtG9VXU4_0
recorded 9/15/26 Chicago

St. Louis Blues -- Bessie Smith ( Armstrong on Coronet )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MldyhUapKFs
recorded 1/14/25

Dippermouth Blues -- King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQTNO_WQ3ck
recorded 4/6/23 Richmond, IN

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Stuff like this is good reason for keeping a “quality” TT system if your own vintage leaves you with a good collection of vinyl


My Jazz collection on LP does not justify me getting back into vinyl.  I have a lot of nice Classical stuff on LP, but I have already obtained the CD versions.  I guess I'm just lazy.  CD was a fantasy of mine before they ever appeared.  Glad I lived to see it happen.

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The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz

CBS Records 1987

CD #2

Moten Swing -- Bennie Moten's Kansas City Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f2YIl-IpPg
recorded   12/13/32, Camden N.J.
Ben Webster(ts), Count Basie(p)

Dinah - Red Nichols & His Five Pennies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLgQg76NWE
recorded 4/18/29
Benny Goodman(cl),  Jack Teagarden(tb), Gene Krupa(d)

THE MAN I LOVE Jazz by Coleman Hawkins Swing Four
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SxkDBEYWOY
recorded   12/23/43
Oscar Pettiford(b), Shelly Manne(d)

Art Tatum, piano solo: "Willow Weep For Me" (1949)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyDTtmlbeaY
recorded 7/13/49, Los Angeles

Ella Fitzgerald -- You'd Be So Nice To Come Home To
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUxA0P4Z_Y8
recorded  7/64, Antibes, France

Benny Goodman And His Sextet - Breakfast Feud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgHLcx9oGg
Cooti Williams (tp) Benny Goodman (cl) Georgie Auld (ts) Count Basie(p) Charlie Christian (el-g) Artie Bernstein (b) Jo Jones (d)
recorded 1/15/41 & 12/19/40

LESTER LEAPS IN Count Basie Kansas City 7 FEATURING LESTER YOUNG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60JYoHdfVM&list=RDf60JYoHdfVM&start_radio=1
recorded  9/5/39

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The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz

CBS Records 1987

CD  # 3

Cotton Tail - Duke Ellington and his Famous Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6HV88uRdFo
Ben Webster, soloist
recorded 5/4/40

Ko-Ko - Charlie Parker's Re-Boppers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wGJpbPKbz8
Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach, soloist
recorded   11/26/45

Embraceable You -- Charlie Parker Quintet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYUT4UPfiJ8
recorded   10/28/47

A Night in Tunisia  --  Bud Powell Trio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MypynwS6NzM
recorded   5/1/51

Crazeology (Take 1)  --  Charlie Parker Sextet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtQZTS2H7ho
Miles Davis, trumpet
recorded    12/17/47

Blue Serge - Duke Ellington and his Famous Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF_KnbOTr40
recorded  2/15/41, Hollywood

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The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz

CBS Records 1987

CD # 4

Boplicity  --  Miles Davis and his Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGSUUQFTf_I
recorded  4/22/49

Haitian Fight Song  --  Charles Mingus Quintet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7CoJEyiSfE
recorded   3/12/57

Django  --  Modern Jazz Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdmi7lfIZ3Y
recorded  4/12/60,  Sweden

Pent-Up House  --  Sonny Rollins Plus 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlpEnsa2d8
recorded   3/22/56

Moon rays  --  Horace Silver Quintet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BF91tyfNZY
recorded   1/13/58

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The Smithsonian Collection of Classic Jazz

CBS Records 1987

CD # 5

West Coast Blues  --  Wes Montgomery Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvf2e6hm9lU
recorded    1/26/60   or   1/28/60

So What  --  Miles Davis Sextet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ppJoPkOzU
recorded    3/2/59

Blue in Green  --  Bill Evans Trio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDdGxsRhLyQ
recorded    12/28/59

Alabama  --  John Coltrane Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH6lQxfv3OY
recorded    11/18/63

Lonely Woman  --   Ornette Coleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIyCOAByDU
recorded    5/22/59

1959 was a good year.

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George Cables

CABLES’ VISION

Vibraphone: Bobby Hutcherson, Soprano Saxophone: Ernie Watts,  Flugelhorn: Freddie Hubbard, Piano: George Cables, Drums: Peter Erskine
Contemporary Records / OJC 1979 / 1992

No Notes, just a Thank You Note, to his Mother.

Morning Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY-hXWvxezM

Byrdlike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTUYwacGjc4

VooDoo Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZmel3EBr0

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rok, my spy told me China is afraid of these guys ?


Well, recently they have been going hand-to-hand at the border in the Himalayas.  China is in a very tough neighborhood, and they don't have a lot of friends.  Surrounded by countries with nuclear weapons and headed by Idiots, Dictators, and religious fanatics.  Makes a body thankful for Mexico and Canada. :)

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How do you get rid of the album images when you post a link? This is something new. Can it be defeated?

 

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The problem I see is when you post multiple links.  I tried, and found I could play three tunes at the same time. ☹   Some of the changes are good.

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I think Russian did it. Sabotage.

I think you are correct!  Comrade Tammy?

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it almost covers Rok’s nick name

Will the outrages ever cease???

 

Can't believe it, I am so smart!

Beauty and Brains.  No wonder you are a Queen!!

 

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The Canadian slicky boy:

It made me sick, esp when I think of what he SAYS rather than what he DOES. He has the gift of gab, but more and more Canadians are finally getting his measure. He is a National Embarrassment.

The dieppe Raid was one of the greatest allied defeats in the war. Total disaster.

They were relieved of their positions in NATO’s Central Front back in the 60’s. And sent home. Could not maintain combat readiness.

All the deputy Command slots formerly held by Canadian officers at lll Corps here at Hood, 18th Airborne Corps at Bragg, Central Command in Florida, and all those at the Pentagon, are now held by British Officers. I wonder why?

American Presidents do what the are supposed to do, not make speeches, but make sure our people have every advantage in weapons, equpiment and training. Thats what the American people demand.

Check out the status of the Canadian Military. Google is your friend.

I think we have more people here At Hood than they have in their entire Military. I know lll Corps does.

He’s a slick talking anti-American, anti-military French Canadian socialist.

When Covid-19 broke out and countries were racing to find a vaccine, he put Canada’s money on the Communist Chinese. How did that work out for Canada? Later he comes begging, DEMANDING that medical equpment made at 3M in Minnesota, be sent to Canada, at a time when Doctors and Nurses were dying in NYC.

He is no friend of the USA. Just an opportunistic parasite.

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Then they are not anti military they are against most useless wars americans did after 1945

In other words, any war fought by America that's not to save their asses, is a useless war.

educate yourself, socialism is not communism

I may have been confused by the Name USSR (Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics).  I am now educated.

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How is it the Queen can post and I can't.  Has she thrown in with Putin?

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A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

 

and this has what to do with polish "jazz", or what I said?

 

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Who said Polish jazz cannot be interesting and creative ?

 

Me.

 

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Careful, careful your European bias is showing.  My BS relay is chattering.  Makes me wonder why you are still in Minnesota instead of Mannheim!

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Is there anything or anyone preventing you from moving to canada?  How about scotland?  If you hate this country so much, you should leave.

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P.S . I love Upstate NY at least much as Canada .

And as much of Texas as lovely Alberta .

 

Too late.  I have already informed the guys at the CIA.  Sorry.