Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Showing 50 responses by rok2id

Art Blakey

ART BLAKEY'S JAZZ MESSENGERS AT BIRDLAND

Art Blakey(drums), Curtis Fuller(trombone), Freddie Hubbard(trumpet), Wayne Shorter(tenor sax), Cedar Walton(piano), Reggie Workman(bass)
Riverside / Original Jazz Classics  1963 / 1989

Notes: "Difficult as it may be to believe, one of America's foremost small-band drummers (and the band leader at that!) has led his group through the recording of an entire album, did it in front of a hip New York nightclub audience --and did not even once take a drum solo!  The starling proof of this is in this very album of performances by the always amazing Art Blakey and his Jazz Messengers."

One by One
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i6GggeAxP4

Ping-Pong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqArwHLljKc

I didn't know what time it was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii7UYWJxHeg

On the Ginza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvK_oj4ymbE

Cheers
The world’s greatest stereo system is inside a Virginia home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3T4hkPrSIY

A REAL Audiophile / Music Lover. The only system I have ever known of that I would really love to hear.   Note, he has Miles!!

Cruel fate.

Cheers

Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers

CARAVAN

Art Blakey(drums), Curtis Fuller(trombone), Freddie Hubbard(trumpet), Wayne Shorter(tenor sax), Cedar Walton(piano), Reggie Workman(bass)
Riverside / OJC   1962 / 1987

The group's Riverside debut.

Caravan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZjau8U_roI

Skylark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4oQ06z-BOY

Thermo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2fVIgrP_t8

Cheers


pjw81563,

I agree with your comments.   Over the years you will be aware of a lot of very elaborate systems, in person, video or print, most come across as exercises in excess.  Ken's is a different thing altogether. You just know it is.  This IS the Holy Grail.

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Art Blakey and the Messengers

A NIGHT IN TUNISIA

Lee Morgan(trumpet), Wayne Shorter(tenor sax), Bobby Timmons(piano), Jymie Merritt(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Blue Note  1960 / 1989

Notes: "This album is a prime example of Blakey's expressed desire to showcase his young talent.  Not only is there extended solo room for the musicians; further, all but the title tune were written and arranged by the talented junior Jazz citizens in his group."

A Night in Tunisia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHKyVJ5YfNU

Sincerely Diana (alternate take)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAbcUlX1g8

When Your Lover Has Gone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJ1fEHnNBc

So Tired
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9azrAX45kY

Cheers
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers

AT THE CAFE BOHEMIA VOLUME 2

Kenny Dorham(trumpet), Hank Mobley(tenor sax), Horace Silver(piano), Doug Watkins(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Blue Note   1955 / 2001

Sportin' Crowd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKLJNs79Bc

Avila & Tequila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQbXYoZuGTA

Just one of those things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcviiU2CsTc

Cheers
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers

AT THE CAFE BOHEMIA VOLUME 1

Kenny Dorham(trumpet), Hank Mobley(tenor sax), Horace Silver(piano), Doug Watkins(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Blue Note    1955 / 2001

Notes: "During 1955 and 1956, The Cafe Bohemia was at the center of Jazz creativity in New York City.  The Greenwich Village club was located at 15 Barrow street, on the same premises where James P. Johnson, Max Kaminsky, Willie "The Lion" Smith and Wilbur De Paris had led groups a decade earlier when the space was called the Pied Piper.  Owner Jimmy Garoflo had operated the Bohemia as a strip club until musicians, including Charlie Parker, began coming in to jam in early 1955.  Parker scheduled to be the opening Jazz attraction, died in March...."

Soft Winds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaokuN1bsfU

The Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8YOTwHeeeI

Minor's Holiday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sB6gQNYlnw

Alone Together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n92V1UaS6pI

Cheers
Art Blakey & Thelonious Monk

JAZZ MESSENGERS WITH THELONIOUS MONK

Art Blakey(drums), Thelonious Monk(piano), Johnny Griffin(tenor sax), Bill hardman(trumpet), Spanky Debrest(bass)
Atlantic / Rhino   1958 / 1999

Notes: "Almost anyone knows that Monk is supposed to have been one of the founders of bop.  Undoubtedly he made important contributions to the style, but it should be clear by now that what this strikingly original musician has been working on all along is something different.  Monk is a virtuoso of time, rhythm, metre, accent."

Evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySN6o6vpHTs

Blue Monk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3kEnoXaYYo

I Mean You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpBPzmh3894

In Walked Bud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdiV2SE57I8

Cheers

Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers

MOANIN'

Lee Morgan(trumpet), Benny Golson(tenor sax), Bobby Timmons(piano), Jymie Merritt(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Blue Note   1958 / 1999

Notes: "It was Golson who recruited his fellow Philadelphians for service with Blakey over the course of 1958.  And while the sanctified Timmons composition "Moanin'" became the album's runaway hit, it was Golson who was responsible for the majority of the material."

The album that started it all.

Moanin' 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJ3JjpZyoA

Blues March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rld0xn9tBkM

Along Came Betty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJeothOwCU

Come Rain or come Shine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EwY6efZRPo

Cheers
Terence Blanchard & Donald Harrison

NEW YORK SECOND LINE

Concord Jazz / King Records Japan  1983  / 1985

Notes: "The leaders of this date, trumpeter Terence Blanchard and alto saxophonist Donald Harrison, are two examples of the importance that New Orleans has in the recent revitalization of the scene which we first became aware of through the equally youthful Marsalis brothers.  At twenty one and twenty three respectively, Blanchard and Harrison are already disciplined technicians who know how to provide the emotional fire of swing and the relaxation of subtle song that is the essence of lyricism.  And if there is any clear heritage we can associate with New Orleans musicians, it would be revealed in those two qualities, since it is the home of Buddy Bolden, Jelly Roll Morton, King Oliver, Sidney Bechet, and Louis Armstrong, to name some seminal figures." --  Stanley Crouch

New York Second Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoWANgGSGp4

Duck Steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip-UZ8ylQwg

Oliver's Twist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkN1XXfaCxE

Cheers
Art Blakey

THE JAZZ MESSENGERS

Donald Byrd(trumpet), Hank Mobley(tenor sax), Horace Silver(piano), Doug Watkins(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Columbia 1956 / 1997

Notes: "One of the best groups to emerge during the period when modern Jazz decided that swing was not only not old-fashioned but a highly desirable commodity is the Jazz Messengers, a co-operative unit organized in early 1955. The musicians in this album form the personnel which has borne the Messenger banner during most of the unit’s career. They demonstrate, in these free-wheeling performances , that small-combo Jazz can be arranged with plenty of room for improvisation, and with carefully worked-out ideas to set the group in a different setting in each number."

I get the impression this could be their first recording.

Nica’s Dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SASVefCnow

Infra-Rae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvgOc6tnVwU

It’s You or No one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAhaPCWifs8

Ecaron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LsmpcAwWSY

Cheers
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers

JUST COOLIN'

Lee Morgan(trumpet), Hank Mobley(tenor sax), Bobby Timmons(piano), Jymie Merritt(bass), Art Blakey(drums)
Blue Note   1959 / 2020

Notes: "When Mobley failed to appear at a Canadian Jazz festival, Morgan pulled Wayne Shorter out of the Maynard Ferguson big band to take his place and Blakey liked what he heard.  Shorter remained in the tenor chair and would ultimately become the group's musical director, where his writing gave a more visionary yet still grooving edge to the music."

Hipsippy Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-W_uJFYcLQ

M&M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1y9mucc3hc

Just Coolin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8NQa5wk7c

Cheers
Terence Blanchard

A TALE OF GOD'S WILL (a requiem for katrina)

Terence Blanchard(trumpet), Brice Winston(tenor & soprano sax), Aaron Parks(piano), Derrick Hodge(bass), Kendrick Scott(drums), Zach Harmon(tabla and the happy apple)
Blue Note  2007

Well done.

Ghost of Congo Square
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkiguBj1EbE

Levees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfEDTZxqIsI

Wading Through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dim1lhT9trg

Ashé
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ_KMpHBm3U

Cheers

Dee Dee Bridgewater

DEE DEE'S FEATHERS

Okeh  2015

House of the Rising Sun*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOygJsLDc4

*For some reason, The house of the rising Sun was only on CDs purchased from Barnes and Noble.  Too good not to include.

Saint James infirmary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSeXzeQK7pk

Treme Song / Do Whatcha Wanna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MVmC55T5s

Whoopin' Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHjIm2jcRM

Come Sunday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru-aeodWgy4

Cheers

Dee Dee Bridgewater

IN MONTREUX

Dee Dee Bridgewater(vocal), Burt van den Brink(piano), Hein Van de Geyn(bass),
Andre Ceccarelli(drums)
Verve  1991

No notes, just a full length fold out photo of Miss Dee Dee in action.  French rhythm section.
 
All of Me 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhxcupPqrU

Night in Tunisia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCt9eHEaCJY

How Insensitive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ujbVPJODJc

Horace Silver Medley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkqod17ICzo

Cheers



Dee Dee Bridgewater

KEEPING TRADITION

Dee Dee Bridgewater(vocal),  Thierry Euez(piano), Hein Van De Geyn(Bass), Andre Ceccarelli(drums)
Emarcy   1993

The Island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOJZCkjqbjE

Lullaby Of Birdland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfcAaXdFXlo

Cheers
rok2id,
What did you think of White Rabbit?


5 Tracks, I thought four were very nice.  Esp 'California Dreaming' and 'El Mar'.  My initial impression was that I was listening to 70s fusion, which it  turns out, is exactly what it is.  But, very well done.  Talent always shines through.  I like it a lot more in 2021 than I would have liked it in 1971.

Overall it's a keeper.

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Lately, when I check these pages, I feel like watching a slot machine rolling...
smthg. like this... https://youtu.be/ZqVpSIqG4pg
Rok, what is going on?
Why so many posts this way?
 Almost all communication is gone now, its like there is a random stramer posting here instead of you?

Well its seems as if all the so-called Aficionados have jumped ship.  I assume The Frogman is working / on tour.  Maybe he's a hostage in North Korea, or perhaps he's planning Bay of pigs 2.0.
The OP has quit Jazz and gone into primitive third world noise.
Our friends in Croatia, including the Queen, have disappeared.
The other regulars don't post as often as they once did.
Soooooo,  there is no one to communicate with. 
There are still viewers.

You think folks aren't posting simply because I am posting??  hmmmmmm  Maybe I should take a hint.

Cheers

Dee Dee Bridgewater

LIVE AT YOSHI'S

Dee Dee Bridgewater(vocals), Thierry Eliez(piano), Thomas Bramerie(bass), Ali Jackson(drums, percussion)
Verve   1998

Notes: "Potentially the most volatile component of a Jazz vocalist's performance, scatting can be deadly in the wrong singer's hands.  But Bridgewater has the gift."

Cotton Tail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHN40EJCN7o

Cherokee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjtLsCxGuE

Love for Sale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2HeVwZV3M

Slow Boat to China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTlEJwiWqA

Cheers
Dee Dee Bridgewater

LIVE IN PARIS

Herve Sellin(piano), Antoine Bonfils(bass guitar), Andre Ceccarelli(drums)
Impulse / MCA   1986 / 1989

Notes: "Jazz is a music of improvisation, a music of feeling deeply rooted in me.  I chose to convey this music "live" to try to capture the excitement of the moment.  It's not perfect "mais ca fonctionne bien."  It's the real thing, no "artificial sweetners" and what fun we had making it happen..."

All Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh_8jYrJcMY

Misty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4IEbvgVzc

On A Clear Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRMR71RCOzo

Medley Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DdnCC4xmig

Cheers



Oscar Peterson: Girl Talk

The most expensive single CD I have ever purchased.  Cost me around 40 dollars from Japan.  I just had to have that version of  'on a clear day' and that album cover photo.  Great CD.  Oscar has never made a bad recording.

Cheers
Dee Dee Bridgewater

LOVE AND PEACE: A TRIBUTE TO HORACE SILVER

Dee Dee Bridgewater(vocals), Stephane Belmondo(trumpet), Lionel Belmondo(tenor sax), Hein Van De Geyn(bass), Andre Ceccarelli(drums), Horace Silver(piano), Jimmy Smith(B3 organ)
Verve     Recorded in 1994

No notes, she just thanks everyone in the alpha quadrant for their support and help.

Nica's Dream               (horace silve, piano)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u-GfR6khjI

Song for my Father    horace silver, piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZMY7FcUSmI

Filthy McNasty      jimmy smith B3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM8y_38-vg8

The Jody Grind           jimmy smith B3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Tf2xIkjZA

Cheers
The Frogman Lives!!!   All is right in the world of Jazz.  Welcome back.  You were missed.

Cheers
Dee Dee Bridgewater

ELEANORA FAGAN: TO BILLIE WITH LOVE

DDB Records  2010

Excellent Packaging with photos and also includes a DVD of her performing at a Jazz festival in Spain.

God Bless The Child
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DoG61GzIvc

Fine and Mellow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a0VDjEUEmY

Good Morning Heartache
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7D0Ba6ITU

Lady Sings the Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnIkqxj8n0

Cheers
Anthony Brown's Asian American Orchestra

MONK'S MOOD: MUSIC OF THELONIOUS MONK

Water Baby Records   2002

Trust me, Monk is in here somewhere.  For those of you who were wondering, Yang Qin Zhao, plays the Chinese hammered dulcimer.

Monk's Mood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhBS_7qThN8

Evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUy5fV1sDUI

Jackie-ing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul8CX1eU7jA

Misterioso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPtwHPfbBWw

Cheers

Tina Brooks

TRUE BLUE

Freddie Hubbard(trumpet), Tina Brooks(tenor sax), Duke Jordan(piano), Sam Jones(bass), Art Taylor(drums)
Blue Note     1960 / 2005

Notes: "Brooks was one of Jazz's ultimate footnotes until the Blue Note savvy Japanese brought his 1958 quintet sessions, BACK TO THE TRACKS and the rest of the  Brooks / McLean music into print toward the close of the 1970s."

True Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEVrlhg4rmw

Good Old Soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VBWiCL7Ar0

Up Tight's Creek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fstrRnjj1jE

Nothing Ever Changes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy9dkBv9_8w

Cheers
Clifford Brown

CLIFFORD BROWN AND MAX ROACH AT BASIN STREET

Clifford Brown(trumpet), Sonny Rollins(tenor sax), Richie Powell(piano), George Morrow(bass), Max Roach(drums)
Emarcy    1990

What is this thing called Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTWRZkoLGx8

I'll Remember April
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efD90XFbpsE

Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnCeTBzlMo

Gertrude's Bounce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1AusLlC-E

Cheers




So I'm curious, how many of you would identify Oscar Peterson as a bebop artist?


He was a great pianists.  A great Jazz pianists.   Bebop?   That's what they called what  Bird and Dizzy did that changed the direction of Jazz.  Demonstrated and opened everyone's eyes as to how Jazz could be played.  An example of what was possible.  It became the pervasive influence.

As Jelly Roll Morton said, "Jazz is a way of playing music."   Not so sure about all the labels.   Think of Miles and 'Kind of Blue'.  Don't exactly bring to mind Bird and Dizzy.

Also, as The Frogman once pointed out, Louis Armstrong called Bebop "Chinese" music.  :)   I am sure he had Bird, Dizzy and maybe Monk in mind.

Peterson was not  known as a Jazz composer or innovator, he just played other folks music mo better than anyone else could.  I put Peterson and Gene Harris together right up with the all time greats on piano. Their music is ALWAYS very enjoyable to hear, and you can't say that about many.

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Received my copy of the 8CD set of Lee Morgan at the Lighthouse.

Very tight playing.  If the first two CDs are an indication,  Ain't got it, git it.  Bebop at it's best.

Surprisingly quiet audience for a 'Live' recording.   Nothing like the typical LIVE Cannonball crowd.  When Morgan introduces the next tune, the background is dead quiet.  Only polite applause after each tune and some of the solo work.  Must be the affluent crowd.

Cheers
 
Milt Jackson's "Be Bop." Not a top-notch effort, but it really hit the spot. How is it going over at BFA?

Maybe Bird At 100 will help. 

BFA is great for me.   I am playing music I haven't played in Decades.   I am surprised at how good some of these guys are, such as Percy Mayfield, Bobby King and Terry Evans, Booker T Laury  etc....  and they all come from places I know.

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Bobby Watson - Vincent Herring - Gary Bartz

BIRD AT 100

Bobby Watson(alto sax), Vincent Herring(alto sax), Gary Bartz(alto sax), David Kikoski(piano), Yasushi Nakamura(bass), Carl Allen(drums)
Smoke Sessions  Records     2019

Excellent fold out packaging.  Each Alto player gives his thoughts on Bird and his music and it's impact on Jazz.  Very nice cover art.  Recorded Live at SMOKE Jazz Club, NYC.


Bird Lives               (Jackie McLean)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JREQjL92Z8A

Klactoveedsedstene              (Charlie Parker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU2OuXiSuKA

The Hymn                              (Charlie Parker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ozPDcHPLI

Yardbird Suite                        (Charlie Parker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvRpdLsIjw

Cheers

2000!! I ORDERED IT IMEDIATELY WHEN I SAW THAT.

Be glad you did. I have learned that the good stuff stays in print for just a short time. Classical is even worst. Awaiting your review.

I also ordered the Roy Hargrove disc.   He has always been one of my favorites.

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Just ordered this.  Everyone is ranting and raving.  The new Nina.

Ne Me Quitte Pas (Don't Leave Me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1Woy2l-MY

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Is there not a bit of’" delta "in Mulgrew Miller?


Well, he was born and raised in Greenwood, MS, which is in the middle of the Delta, about 40 miles from me and he went to school in Memphis, so I would say yes.   Of course I think there is Delta in everything, save Classical.

However,  the question about the chords should come under "Questions to The Frogman".

Love that Miller / Hargrove CD.

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Ledisi

LEDISI SINGS NINA

Featuring:
The Metropole Orkest
The New Orleans Jazz Orchestra
Guests: Lizz Wright, Alice Smith, Lisa Fischer
BMG   2021

Great backing. A thoroughly enjoyable album. Only seven tracks, but no duds.

My Baby Just Cares for Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiwF4E5HT9Y

Work Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeHc2HcyAQ

Four Women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUl6tU0j0cg

Ne Me Quitte Pas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1Woy2l-MY

Cheers

Oscar Brown Jr.

SIN & SOUL

Columbia / Sony      1960  /  1996

Notes:  Rarely does an artist's debut album deliver as fully formed, well-defined an original as the Oscar Brown Jr. of Sin and Soul.

Somebody Buy Me a Drink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAkTXKhqJSw

Dat Dere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o_8Ek9Hzu0

Rags and Old Iron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZexCpTTWHc

Work Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfXByKfexZs

Afro-Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G748lKUVaJs

Cheers
Ray Brown Trio

THE SAX PLAYERS

Ray Brown(bass), Benny Green(piano), Gregory Hutchinson(drums)
Telarc   1996

Stanley Turrentine - Port Of Rico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWxZ0ZKwh_A

Joshua Redman - Polka Dots and Moonbeams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543suDE5Sdk

Benny Carter -  Fly Me To The Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD5ANgC6bgo

Cheers


Re , Cooperate US , Blacks are


If you are a worker in a Walmart Distribution center, you are working for cooperate America.

I guess you feel their pain more than they do.  The definition of a so-called liberal.

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but in US only the blacks are still on the journey

I disagree.  Some folks ( ne'er-do-wells  ), will ALWAYS be on the journey, no matter what the situation is.   Including a lot of white folks.   

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I thought that your suggestion was that there were reasons why both disciplines coincided.  I was curious what those might be.

Black Americans is the answer.  As their employment / career opportunities increased across the society, the number of them wanting to Box or be Jazz musicians decreased.  There have probably been many potentially as good as  Ali, Louis and  Marciano etc ... they are just working in cooperate America.  Or maybe in the NBA, NFL or MLB.   All a lot easier than boxing or trying to earn a living in Jazz.

Other groups, Irish, Jews, Italians  etc... traveled the same journey.

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The lack of historical and sociological perspective on display here from time to time is disconcerting. Rok, in particular, as I've said before, just doesn't get it.

Exactly what is it that I don't get?

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Roy Eldridge:

I recently purchased box sets by my two favorite trumpet players, Roy Eldridge and Harry "Sweets" Edison. I thought for a moment I had the same Eldridge set as you have, but mine is The Verve Collection 1957-1962. 4CD Box

Have not opened either. Waiting for the perfect mood.

Nice post

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