Casandra Wilson:
OP, you might be right. I just never thought of her that way. I will play my CDs of her again, with your thoughts in mind.
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That's rather presumptuous of you OP.
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Today's Listen: McCoy Tyner -- EXTENSIONS with / Alice Coltrane(harp), Wayne Shorter(tenor and soprano sax), Gary Bartz(alto sax), Ron Carter(bass), Elvin Jones(drums) Inter notes in Japanese. Back notes talk about McCoy, his music, family and religion(Islam). Still searching for the imaginary connection with Africa. Hence the ridiculous cover photo. You wouldn't know it, but this is a Blue Note release. Even the disc label is solid blue now. No sense of class or tradition. In spite of all that, it is McCoy Tyner! And, he must be heard. Shorter also. The more I hear it, the more I like it. Only 4 tunes. Recorded 1970.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgls_vR3ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHKaNCMh3Rc The cover seems to be from a National Geographic Magazine. Cheers |
McCoy ALWAYS sounds like Trane, maybe because it was McCoy all the while.
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I am in the process of writing the lyrics to Mingus' Hog Calling Blues.*****
On second thought, maybe not.
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Excellent Clips from The OP and The Frogman. I hesitate to ask, but was that Mcferrin on the round midnight clip? I'm still trying to figure out what kind of horn that was. That was Wonderful. The first clip said I was not old enough to watch it.
I am in the process of writing the lyrics to Mingus' Hog Calling Blues. Stay tuned.
Thanks to all for some great music.
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To The Frogman or / and Schubert:
I have a question concerning Mozart vs Schubert. The real Schubert.:) I am thinking about how to put it. Tomorrow.
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No mention of Dee Dee and her Horace Silver Interpretations???
All good to listen to, but they are also very forgettable, preventing a person being trapped. The best kind of Jazz lyric, for Jazz instrumental music, great when you hear them, but they don't linger forever. Leaving the way open to even better lyrics in the future.
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Listening to Big Band Sunday on local FM station. They are playing stuff from a 1944 issue of downbeat magazine. It was reported that a new band led by Billy Eckstine was opening at the Regal in Chicago. Had a singer named Sarah Vaughan. The DJ pointed out that they misspelled both of her names.
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Anyone have any Christmas Recommendations? Now is the time to make them. Wynton and the Band have a new holiday album out this year. Can be pre-ordered on Amazon. I think Aretha is on it. I will post mine tomorrow.
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Just saw on an European news show that a "rare" Trumpet once owned by Miles Davis, sold for 275,000.00 Dollars at auction.
I just know the OP would not let some outsider get his homeboy's stuff, so, congratulations are in order to our OP on his purchase.
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Chucho Valdes:
Good stuff. Not for nothing is he known as the 'Pulverizer'. I like his playing.
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I never thought of 'after the fact' lyrics to Jazz tunes as being 'permanent'. Just something a singer did to a tune that struck their fancy. It did not affect the original tune in any way thereafter.
Now, if a tune is written with lyrics, then they are, and will always be, part of the tune.
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The case is in fact CLOSED.
Artists of all stripes are better trained, educated, and have easier access to better materials, instruments, and places of learning than at any time in Human history.
When the next Mozart, Bach, Parker, Mingus, Monet, or van Gogh shows up, call me.
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Yep. Miles was Miles, Trane was Trane, Jazz was Jazz, and all cases were closed.
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Well, back then, the radio was all there was in small Southern Towns. It was country music and Broadway / Show-tunes. The Wayward Wind, Canadian Sunset, On the Street where you live etc...... Of course later, R&R came on the scene. But, by then, we had been imprinted.
Glad to hear someone other than me knows Stafford. I always wondered why she had a man's name.:)
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I am a long time fan of Cline and Country Music. She is also a favorite of the wife. I remember that song when it was done by Jo Stafford, another great from my Childhood.
In this kind of music, The Lyrics Matter.
Nice clip.
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ALL of you people get a little too personal with all this. You say things that can't be taken back, or forgotten. As the General said in 'Good Morning Vietnam', "Hell, it's only radio." Or in our case, Jazz.
I ’ve got a flash for you O-10 , without you nothing would change on here , without frogman it would die in a week
Wrong and Wrong!!
All this would be pointless without both of them. Both of them. Together.
Wrong. Cheers Also, we are reading type. Remember that when you post. Body language and facial expressions do not come into it. Things that would be jokes, or harmless banter, sitting around the table having a cold one, can take on different meanings when written. Of course you all know this, so I am preaching to the choir. |
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You are so serious today. Preacher.
Today, I paid the Tax man. That sometimes brings on a serious mood. Cheers |
Imagine this thread without 0-10 and fro. I would write mostly about chickens, you would post Sunday songs. They would ban us in a day .
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Questions to The Frogman: Jazz rehearsals. How much of the individual solos played in the performance are played during rehearsals? For Instance, did Kisor blow this solo during rehearsals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnshBIuu97Q Thanks Btw, the rhythm section is awesome on this song. Cheers |
it wasn't until I had a hearing test that the source of the problem was revealed. Ages ago, in the Air Force, my left ear drum was injured in a rapid decompression incident, and as many injuries, they get worse with old age.
A lot of posters in the various sites listed hearing loss as a possible cause for the perceived channel imbalance. Always, the left channel was stronger. In my case hearing was eliminated as a cause by the Chesky disc. Some of the tunes actually started with the right channel. On several, the effect was, Trumpet and Trombone on the left, Clarinet and saxophone on the right and Drums,Bass, and banjo dead center. Since then, I have decided some disc, a lot, are biased to the left, some aren't. Classical discs seem to be the best recorded. Although I was sort of disappointed in my recently purchased, 4 seasons / Rachel Podger. It won top awards in all the Magazines, and is a SACD. Today my Mozart Violin Sonatas / Perlman & Barenboim was outstanding. No problems. Like you, I will just have to live with those with the problem. Cheers Btw, a good way, i'm told, to verify hearing, is to sit in the sweet spot with your back to the speakers. Now your right ear is listening to the left channel. Does the dominance shift? If yes, it's your hearing. If not, the system / recording. |
Nina's "You'll Never Walk Alone" always get's me
She is very talented and unique. I suspect her influences stem more from the Baptist Churches in North Carolina. Cheers |
When Nina Simone became more well known in an interview, probably her first main one, she was asked whom her big influence was. She replied without hesitation and matter-of-factly, Johann Sebastian Bach.
When people say things like that, whether it's Bach or Bird, it seems to me you should be able to 'hear' that influence in their music. Cheers |
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Of say the top twenty there is one player , the German Julia Fisher , that all you can say is , that is Bach , that is Mozart , that is Brahms etc.*****
You can also say that is a Stone Fox! Frau Fisher, that is.
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It would be 6-8 weeks till most of us would be gone .
This thread has been going on for over seven years. In that time both the OP and The Frogman have been absent on occasion. The Frogman goes on trips with his Orchestra and sometimes he pouts. The OP just pouts. Lately he has pouted more than he has posted. The point is, the thread goes on. It has to. Where else Will Jazz be discussed if not here? In any event, The Jazz Queen and I will be here to the bitter end. Even if it comes to posting Ornette Coleman plays Sun Ra. Cheers and Chill |
Thanks Frogman, excellent and informative as always. Where would this thread be without you.
I asked about the rehearsal solo because, as you pointed out Wynton was 'digging' it, and the sax player turned around to look at Kisor as he played, so I just wondered if that was the first time they had heard it, or if they knew what was coming. Great explanation.
Old, New, Modern Traditional.......... I think I am lost. I think it would useful if we synchronized eras / calendars / terms. In other words, a few definitions and time frames would be helpful.
I suspect 'modern' Jazz started a long long time ago. I have no idea what 'old' and 'new' means as pertains to Jazz. I have always thought 'modern' started with the break with New Orleans and swing.
In my opinion, it's all good except for the 'soundscape' crowd, where EVERYTHING that is improvised in thrown into the JAZZ bin.
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played the African Kalimba. I have never heard anything like it before or since, *****
The Frogman's first law is in effect.
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Concierto De Aran*****
Nice enough, but what does it have to do with Jazz?
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Alison Balsom,
Schubert is right. We have a new #1 Classical Fox. Beautiful, talented, English and plays Trumpet. What’s not to like.
There is just something about English Classical music. Simple?
I have to have a daily fix of Handel.
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Jazz is a way of playing music. Jelly Roll Morton
Same tune, but, The Miles clip was Jazz.
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Bach & Jazz:
The Modern Jazz Quartet tried to make this work years ago. They couldn't. I think they called it 'Third Stream'. I remember a friend of mine, from NYC, trying to explain it all to me, in Atlanta. This was back when a new Porsche cost around 7000 dollars. That long ago. Never the Twain shall meet.
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Rok, honestly, never thought that there will come the day when I would say that you are the voice of the reason.
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rok, I tried to pay the taxman today too. But the system was f***ed up and e-payments didn't work.
I almost tired the e-payment thing for the first time. Thought better of it. They just get your money faster. And, a lot of things can happen, most of them bad. Cheers |
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Miles and French Movies. Miles was great. In fact, take away the music, and not much is left.
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