@schubert Your boys on parade. They come from the largest Battalion in the German Army. Some companies active, some not. All stationed in Berlin. I guess they do this very, very often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WyzcqQIZw
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Are you saying that technique and phrasing, trumps the voice? Within reason of course. When I think of her voice’s decline, I think of this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImXVzNINKig Still compelling. Cheers Btw, Webster, Edison and Kessel are the players. |
Billie Holiday: I just received this box set, 3 CD, Billie Holiday -- THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION. Good sound quality and good selections, but, no ’Fine and Mellow’. In the notes, in response to the critics, that said her lifestyle had harmed her voice, Ms Holiday said: "Anybody who knows anything about singing says I’m for sure singing better than I ever have in my life. If you don’t think so, just listen to some of my old sides like "Lover come Back" and "Yesterdays", and then listen to the same tunes as i have recorded them in recent years." She said this in the mid-50’s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yczvZyzOXKA 1944 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUlxvdy1iw 1952 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVKyUJVjZf8 1939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DdK7il-NQs 1952 A case for an ’Aficionado’ decision if there ever was one, esp since some of you may have been at the performances. :)
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Questions To The Frogman:
I have noticed, for some time actually, that when I listen at my sweet spot, which is an equal distance from each speakers, the left channel always seems to be the dominate channel. Most of the musical information seems to come from the left speaker. This was true with all three different systems. The center of the sound-stage seems to be slightly to my Center-Left. Between the left speaker and the equipment rack, which sits in the middle.
The classical recording I played did not exhibit this. (Norrington's LvB 9th), but all the pop recordings did.
After a search, this has been discussed online, so I am not alone. Is this a common situation? And why?
Comments?
I did switch the outputs cables from my tuners, and the dominance went to the right.
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Mary Jo, that's really deep soul music. I was listening to this today as I drove around doing errands. Sort of in the same vein. Southern Soul, which I suspect is a lot like Croatian Soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112BIpVq3ZkHappy Valentine's day to you also. Cheers |
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Have a good and safe trip to 'The Land of The Morning Calm'.
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Jacky Terrasson: @schubert I have two by him. His first two recordings on Blue Note. Back then he was considered the future of Jazz.
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Hard to think it's the same pianist. The drummer on caravan was on fire. It was something to see, I think it could have used a little more 'Caravan". Same with Besame Mucho, but, it's Modern day Jazz. The young folks are happy. Help, I'm stuck in the 60's and can't get out!! Thanks for the clips. Cheers |
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The Dutchmen were good, but what's up with that drummer? Got stuck in a time warp at Woodstock?
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Btw, The impetus for all Vietnam protests was the Draft. Since the draft was ended, we have been almost at a constant state of war, with hardly a discouraging word from anyone. I guess the protests were related to who was doing the fighting / dying. Food for thought.
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Problem found. It's the local FM station. All systems play just fine, that is, all amps and CD players, except when the tuners play. Assuming all three can't have the same problem, and the problem moves when the RCA cables at the tuners are switched, it has to be the broadcast signal.
The pop CD that I mentioned is part of a 2 CD set of compilations, and are just badly recorded.
Thanks for your response.
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Today's Listen: Cannonball Adderley Sextet -- LUGANO 1963 This was recorded in Lugano, Switzerland, of course. The note writer, Norberto Gimelfarb, actually had the audacity to take a swipe at Wynton. "You can instantly tell what separates them: as far as I know, Cannonball only preached through his horn". "But there are common features. Cannonball carries in his approach the entire Jazz tradition as much as Marsalis does- or pretends to..." Wow!! I guess Wynton must have said or done something that irritated the 'Professor'. So much for auslander critics. The music: Lateef on sax, flute and oboe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5YC7N7biTo
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The Frogman's inaccurate and vicious attack upon Maynard can be responded to with one word: KILLJOY.
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@frogman Thank you for your prompt and comprehensive response. His dates pertaining to Coltrane on Alto and Tenor are really confusing, and, as you point out, wrong.
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'Cleanhead' Vinson:
He could be unique in that he is both great and under-appreciated in two genres. Great tunes. I think I first heard the first clip on a Cannonball LP.
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Sounds like something by Gershwin. I couldn't get it, so I tried to cheat by using my phone and playing that passage. but the phone said, it's "tri-horn blues, by Sonny Stitt". ahahahahah. And they call them 'smart' phones.
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Left channel dominance: This subject has appeared on Audiogon before, back in 2012. Many articles on the internet. I sought to solve it by playing my Chesky recording of Wycliffe Gordon. Thinking this would eliminate any questions of the source. It did. Results indicate that my system, Hearing and speakers are all OK. It is the recordings, including those on FM radio. This can be corrected with the balance control, but I hate using controls.
http s://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/why-my-left-speaker-sounds-louder-then-my-right
I asked The Frogman because I thought it might be the recording process that was the problem. If you visualize an Orchestra, most of the action is to the left. The violins, any guest soloist, singer of instrumentalist, always stand to the left. Then you throw in the guys in the mixing room and ...
https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/why-is-there-more-sound-concentrated-in-the-left-channel-than-the-right.133009/
Frogman, play a few CDs on your system and then comment. Cheers Most often, even the four soloist used in LvB's 9th sit to the left. |
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"Goto Guru" sounds more modern.
Actually I'm just testing my ears.
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Diane Schuur:
I have a few CDs by Miss Schuur. Great voice. I like all three tunes you posted, but I felt the band was lacking something on "The Man I Love". The Band Just didn’t seem / sound right to my ear.
Maybe The Frogman could comment on "The Man I Love".
Nice posts and your interpretations of the song’s meaning were spot on.
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Well, while you were dillydallying, I did buy 'Sound Of Red'.
In the notes Miss Marie says, "To talk about 'Sound Of Red' diminishes it's impact". So please just listen.
The lyrics to all the sounds are listed. Sherman Irby on Alto.
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Btw, I think recording for a mainstream Jazz label would have made a big difference in Miss Schuur's recordings. Starting with the Cover Art.
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I am afraid I have never heard of Johnny Smith, but he sure can play. Excellent Vermont. However, you do realize that tune belongs to Miss Holiday.
I have Anita doing 'Frenesi' on her CD 'Sings ther Winners'. I have grown to like her. I bought her on your recommendation. Remember?
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John Coltrane:
'Spiritual' shows why this man was so great. He was a complete master of the Tenor Saxophone. If he could think it, he could play it. Remember in Nica's book, several guys 'wished' they could play what was in their heads? John Coltrane could.
Favorite Things: I think McCoy should get at least equal credit for this tune. His piano playing sort of took over the tune. Both great, of course.
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I'm listening to the entire album. Very nice. Notice that it's on the Blue Note label. Believe it or not, the label matters.
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Frogman, thanks for your very informative response. I remember reading about dissonance when I was 'studying' music from my book, which I seem to have misplaced.
I listened to the tune again, and it almost seems as if the band and the singer are performing two different tunes.
Can you post a clip that demonstrates dissonance used in an effective way?
Can a song end on a dissonance chord?
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Staton and Lynne:
I remember both of these singers from way back in the day. The Staton LP was one of the first my brother got from a record club. I spent a lot of time staring at that cover. Remember 'Misty' very well.
I also remember Lynne and that song.
Now, maybe you understand why I am stuck in the past, because that's where the good stuff lives.
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Casandra Wilson:
You don' t know what Love is: Way too slow. Distorts the song. Check out Etta James and Miss Holiday.
Black Orpheus: Nice enough, but even through she is from Mississippi, she is hit and miss. As if she is searching for her place in music.
Billie's Blues: Great!! A lot of the impact goes to the arrangement and the band. But she nailed it. All we need is a CD full of stuff like this.
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Barbara Cook:
She does have a great voice, and surely has that ’Broadway’ vibe. We always give credit to the Blues and other genres for their influence in the creation of Jazz, but maybe Broadway and the ’Great American Songbook’ deserves a lot of credit for the growth and sustainability of Jazz. Because a lot of a Jazz, is ’borrowed’ from other genres.
Nice clip from a lady I was not familiar with.
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