Not related to Jazz, but since this is a smart crowd:
Does anyone understand the real relationship between Humans, The Engineers and The Xenomorphs?
The more I read, the more confused I get.
Cheers
Jazz for aficionados
Today's Listen: Harry Edison / Eddie Davis -- IN COPENHAGEN: SWEETS & LOCKJAW Absolutely wonderful album. Outstanding playing and sound quality. Even you folks into ancient technologies will like it. The way Jazz should be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTMd-YGk3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BECIc86B4CY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2rEwSvk24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvI8mCeOnBc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55C1uZhrLCc Got a problem with this music, git outta Jazz!! Cheers Btw, Who made you the decider in Chief of what is and what is not good jazz?I'm self-appointed, therefore, I cannot be fired. :) |
Highly unusual. My Mistake. There are 12 tracks, four of them were recorded before the musical opened, but it's not relevant, because, although the music appears on the CD, it was not part of the musical. They went into the studio to record 'Fiddler' the month after it opened. Which is still sort of soon. Fiddler opened Sept 22, 1964. Cannonball went into the studio to record on Oct 19, 1964. Thanks Cheers |
*****Looks like the great unwashed have spoken***** If you are speaking of the so-called popularity of KOB and SE, I think it's more like the Eastern 'Elite' opinion makers have spoken. The best way to judge how good Jazz albums are, is to ask yourself, which ones do I listen to the most. One of my copies of KOB is still in the cello wrap. (SACD). It's important, but that's not the same as being one of the best. Cheers |
Everyone: Which Jazz records do you play most often? My top five CDs is no particular order: Marsalis -- Marsalis and Clapton play the blues Mingus -- Oh Yeah Ellington -- At Newport Masekela -- Best of: Grazing in the grass Gene Harris -- In His Hands Tunes I play most often: Coltrane -- My Favorite Things (mainly to hear McCoy) Lester Bowie -- I only have eyes for you Keeping in mind that Jelly Roll said Jazz was a way of playing music. Cheers |
*****Rok, which circus are you referring to, be more specific. Are you referring to what happens when people are left without jobs, "means to earn a living"; then the same conditions exist in Chicago, St'. Louis, LA, and all of the other major cities. ***** Hold on Comrade. :) I was speaking of Aretha's 'funeral'. Not the big three auto makers and their capitalist running dogs. Cheers |
Today is just a Saxophone kind of day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSqHZy3JbH4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsqVhWDmoiE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhwTv9M8 Cheers |
Iranian Jazz? Jazz from Armenia? The Jazz Queen of Croatia's greatest hits? I guess being an Aficionado ain't what it used to be. For context, the following clips, posted by the world renowned Jazz expert, me, were roundly booed and trashed by these same people. Over the top, Wynton can't play etc..... it was horrible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgNA3rCw7U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnshBIuu97Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGPiQ6ud2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBt9DQJOO-4 Cheers |
*****Do you have a factual source to backup that claim?***** Not a claim, it's a fact. Google, "Lt. Jimmy Reese Europe". Surprised a Jazz lover has not heard of him. *****Even if true when Django arrived here and started playing, his fellow jazz musicians including Satchmo and the Duke were in awe!***** Do you seriously think Pops and The Duke were "in awe" of this guy? They were just being nice and charitable, as they always were in public. Cheers |
*****A most important influence to all "jazz guitarists" who came later:***** Any influence this guy had, came from America. Most likely in the form of Lt. Jimmy Reese Europe, and his Hell-Fighter Band during World War l. They introduced Europe to Jazz. New York National Guard I believe. Harlem in particular. Cheers |
Isn’t it amazing how every time The Frogman opens his mouth, all his little minions, as if on cue, jump in with support. Brings to mind, the North Korean military on parade. I actually LOL.
*****Frog’s "My brother!" reference has much more substance.***** What a silly thing to say. I probably shouted "my brother" when I first heard Coltrane, and I can’t play a lick. Wiki -- Before debating any article, first, determine who wrote it. I can quote any Book, from the Bible to Mein Kampf. It don’t mean a thing. EVERYONE has an agenda. Especially The Frogman. ***** if Jimmy Reese was instrumental (!) in introducing American jazz to Europe, that he influenced Reinhardt? Or that Reinhardt even ever heard him? ***** See, this is a good example of the twisted logic these folks use. Django never heard of Reese, therefore he could not be influenced by him, (BS btw) BUT, every Jazz player in New Orleans was ’influenced’ by every person and group on planet earth. I didn’t know they were such world travelers. Insidious -- having a gradual and cumulative effect. Subtle. When reading any article about Jazz or Black music in general, remember this word. INSIDIOUS. Examples in the recent articles. "European Military Band Music". European Military Bands? There were billions of marching bands in New Orleans, both black and white. Hell, Sousa might still have been alive. He was director of the US Marine Corps Band. The US Military has hundreds of bands. In fact, Pops said if it had not been for segregation in New Orleans, there might have never been anything like Jazz. He said all the black guys would have been in the marching bands playing Sousa. BUT, they had to get that word ’European’ in the discussion. "Introducing American Jazz Music to Europe" American Jazz? What other kind was there? And played by who? implication: there was Jazz in Europe before Reese, just not "American’ Jazz. People used to read to gain knowledge, now, you have to have a lot of knowledge before you read. The President is right. There is, and has always been, a lot of fake news out there. Cheers |
I confess. I listen to Christmas Music year round. Ran across this on the tube. Will see if CDs exist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9GtPX6c_kg&index=29&list=RDtBt9DQJOO-4 The African and Middle Eastern 'influences' and not too prominent. But you just can't get away from that Roma stuff. Cheers |
I may have spoken to soon concerning the straw-man award. *****His ramblings about Pops and Duke not liking Django's music and just being charitable***** I implied that Pops and Ellington were not 'in awe' of Django. Nothing about like or dislike. Influence / influenced -- sort of like the word 'culture'. Used often, and most often misused. ***Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.*** Bigot -- very superficial definition. I am intolerant of many things. Most of them bad. Nazis and Communists come to mind. Cheers |
Soul: A label I detest. Every time they refer to Aretha Franklin as a 'soul' singer I cringe. One of the great voices / singers of the 20th century is being pigeonholed in some small musical niche created by god knows who. I guess Ray Charles was a 'soul' singer also. paraphrasing, The power to define, is the power to control. To limit. Cheers |
*****When you get right down to it the thing is why would you make post that comment at all?... Think about it***** I don't have to think about it. I know why I made the statement. This thread has a history of promoting noise makers by posting positive comments made by big time Jazz players. So and so can really play, MINGUS said bah bah bah, Cannonball praised him, Pops said he will be a star etc........ I am not saying Django was a noise maker. I like his music, especially the stuff he did with Grappelli. My point is this, given the 'social conditions' that prevailed at the time we are discussing, black musicians never criticized other musicians when asked to comment. They had nothing to gain by being negative and maybe a lot to lose. Therefore, we can ignore all comments made by the greats concerning other players. As the great NY Giants and Dallas Cowboy football coach, Bill Parcells always said, "You are, what your record says you are". No more no less. Pops is Pops, Ellington is Ellington and Django is Django etc.......... No matter who says what. Cheers |
*****Nonsense, find me and post ONE reference from a credible source to the notion that “black musicians never criticized other musicians when asked to comment***** Show me ONE example of a big time black Jazz player making negative comments about a white player, when asked to comment by a media or Jazz critic type. Just ONE example. I wait with bated breath. Cheers |
Bireli Lagrene: The guy is a virtuoso. He can really play the guitar. Didn't see too much emotion from him, and didn't hear too much in the music. But it was good. On the TV series 'Star Trek: Next Generation' there is character called DATA. He is an Android. He plays the violin. He can play perfectly any music ever written on his violin. He can even play in the style of any of the great violinist in history. Imitate them perfectly. But, he, and his audiences, know that something is missing. Cheers |
pjw: I say EXACTLY what I intend to say. Each word is important. Read. All your responses were based on something I didn't say. The Parcells thingy: 'Record' in this case means the totality of what and who the player is / was, in the world of Jazz and Music. Miles was Miles, and Ellis was Ellis. Parcells would say they have different 'records'. The Frogman: I stand by my post, despite the Miles thingy . Btw, I knew if you found something it would be Miles. It does not change the truthfulness of what I posted. And guess what, you know that. Cheers |
***** this thread’s inception is how its possible for an individual to go year after year alienating others that he interacts with and never appear to contemplate the possibility that maybe, just maybe, there is a problem at his end; either with his views, his social interaction skills, or both.***** Well, we started, back in 2013, with 0-10, The Frogman, Acman3, Rok2id, and Learsfool. All except Learsfool are still present and accounted for. Who did I alienate? Cheers |
Today's Listen: Mary Lou Williams -- LIVE AT THE COOKERY Includes a Jazz tune titled 'Praise The Lord', don't get no better than that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=titcI_y8LVw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rez4rZ-Dnxc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8d8SlpYAc This woman goes back a ways. Check the boogie woogie. I apologize for the obvious Iranian and Mongolian 'influences'. Cheers |
Mary Jo: *****From your previous statement I guess that you equal the ideas of communism with the regime of Stalin in Soviet Union. Communism in it’s true definition (moneyless, stateless, classless) never existed. What was in former SSSR was the abuse of communism ideas. ***** Not at all. Never mentioned Stalin. I equate communism with the teachings and philosophy of Marx and Engels. Their ideas are bad enough as it is, Stalin’s attempt to implement them just shows how evil they are. You are right, in saying, it all goes against human nature. We in this country are still fighting back. Hence The Donald. Free men aren’t equal, and equal men aren’t free. Cheers |
Today's Listen: John Coltrane -- COLTRANE PLAYS THE BLUES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcexSplg1vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etY5OdCK9Q How did we get from this, to 'Stellar Regions'. McCoy Tyner never gets the credit he deserved. Cheers |
Maybe my first encounter with Jazz. I was away at college, my first night away from home, in the band dorm, and some hot shot trumpet players from Memphis, played this tune all night, or so it seemed, on their record player. We became great friends. I have loved / hated it every since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNZqM0d-xo Cheers |
Today's Listen: If you want The Blues done right, you want them dome by The Duke. Or Basie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV9AksDEh18 The Duke had the best sax players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNzJIfcDRGk Ray Nance on Trumpet and Violin!!! wtf! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLrC-BZiFuA Cheers |
Have not heard this ones in ages. The cover art does not do the musical performances justice. If she was an actress, we would marvel at her range. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVq3wHtqio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DdnCC4xmig Cheers |
The Quiz: I am clueless. Questions to The Frogman: Why didn't she come back in after the trumpet solo. Seems like something is missing. Part of the tune left off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnshBIuu97Q Cheers |