Jazz for aficionados

I guess it takes a giant to cover a giant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNcuAtzou7k 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4DrrgMiUk  

The Frogman,  it's great to post players with Soul, as long as folks don't try to make it a genetic thingy.  Soul players come in all favors.

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Today's Listen:

Big John Patton -- GOT A GOOD THING GOIN'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_JGxFK_29c   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQGY5MsexU   

Very nice, but in dire need of some horns.

A Saxophone would have been nice..

Grant Green should have gotten equal billing.

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I have concluded that The Frogman does not like "Over the Top".

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Questions to The Frogman:

Discuss

Fantasy in Classical Music, as compared with, Improvisation in Jazz.

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Gracias.

I asked the question because I was listening to this today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcqDqaZo1o   

I was wondering if this was a piece that someone else would play the same as she did?  

On closer reading of the notes I see the Carmen Fantasy was composed by Pablo De Sarasate, not Bizet.  Just as you said, it's written down.

Thanks for the usual comprehensive response.

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She was really one of a kind.   In her genre, she had no peer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IerxTP31dAY 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNR0iLw92Gc  

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Cliff Jordan:

Great clip Acman.   How did I overlook Jordan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THmLkXB9Glk  

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I wonder why this is never considered to be the greatest Jazz album ever.

Is there a better showcase of Jazz saxophone playing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYgow060zOg 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUcEGOLfUTE 

I know it's been posted before, but WOW!

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You folks know what I think of the word 'soul' in music.

Was Aretha 'The Queen of Soul'?   As brother Ray might say, YES INDEED!

When you speak of 'Soul', you are speaking of Aretha and Ray.   Small club.

Sad Day.

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What a loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Hp0wR1LY4  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9ILtrHw_Mo  

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Miles 1985 Berlin:

Too sad to watch.  I hope he at least made money.

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Having done their best to destroy Jazz, they now move on to do the same to classical music.

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*****I had that album, and I remember that I really liked the cover; it seems to have vanished. ******

Look under your collection of 'Iranian Hard Bop'.  You may have misplaced it there.

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Today's Listen:

Miles Davis --  COLLECTOR'S ITEMS

Yes, it's the same guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M0s29RhR5E 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COw0fe7OBqc   

Rollins and Bird, a.k.a. 'Charlie Chan', on tenors.

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I think The Jazz Queen of Croatia used to write for Pravda.

we will crush you!!!

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He attacks me, writes all this ridiculous defense of the noise makers and music destroyers, THEN, he posts Turrentine!!  WTF!!

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Real Chamber Music.

Don't want to cause a 'ruckus', so I am not saying Meyers / Bach is as good as Sissoko and Segal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbsXFxvmiOc  

But I think any fair minded person would say Meyers / Bach is pretty good.

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*****blissful ignorance*****

Is there any other kind?

I walk around with a smile on my face 24/7.

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Well, as far as Classical and Jazz are concerned, resistance does appear to be futile.

However, when they turn their sights on Funk, I'm dusting off my M-14.

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O-10

I like that.   Didn't Newman play with Ray Charles?

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Today's Listen:

Gillespie, Stitt, Rollins -- SONNY SIDE UP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCEHliCwhk    

Stitt and Rollins battle, with Dizzy as the instigator.

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AAUUGGHH !!!!!!!

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Program on Cuba tonight on PBS.  9pm CST.

Maybe they will show a little Cuban music.

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Sorry nsp, but no one says aauugghh when speaking of Bach.

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Did I detect a feeble attempt at humor emanating from Eastern Europe??

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Today's Listen:

Etta Jones -- DON'T GO TO STRANGERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJoKqPlHFF0  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OaNWjaIdUA   

Had to include this one.  I used to be able to play it on the piano.   From back in day when you could buy sheet music at local stores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2C5sXV9jCc  

All best when played at volume.

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More of Today's Listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8BTwTwg-k 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NnA-nftzuU  

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Latest Dance Craze reaches Croatia.  Finally.

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The only known recording by The Jazz Queen of Croatia.

Shortly after it's release she was arrested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZa6oupSCc0  

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Rahsaan Roland Kirk -- BLACKNUSS

Ain't got it, git it.   You will laugh out loud for real.

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Questions To The Frogman:

Please discuss the differences between East and West Coast Jazz, if any.

How many recognized types of Jazz are there?

Thanks in Advance.

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Once again, it's time for The Proms!!

And you thought I had forgotten.  Silly you.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUol8Aoanlo 

Stop that moaning and groaning.  A little culture will do you good.

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How about a little South Coast Jazz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxrws7omOHQ   

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Great tune.  Check the trumpet playing around 5:30.  If that don't move you, git outta Jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5krFNUMQHI   

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East Coast vs West Coast:

When I asked the question I was thinking more along the lines of (sigh), nuts and bolts. :(

A composer is given the task of writing two Jazz tunes, one that would be considered West coast and another that would be considered East Coast.  He might decide to write the same tune for both.

What would he add / subtract from the tunes to make them East or West.

Both posts from The Frogman and the OP were great.   Have never known  the OP to be so Precise and Concise.

You both told us why the music is different. 

Hollywood, Movie themes, CA life style, (they were and are different from the rest of the US), little if any influence from black music.

The question is:
*****Does this make it jazz that is less "real" and the other more real?****

The jury is still out.

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Speaking of West Coast Cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI_MjxTUjGE  

The OP still dresses like this.

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Wynton  NOLA Jazz

His natural home.  The Jazz Orchestra at Lincoln Center, should be in New Orleans.

Nice Clip

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I enjoyed them both.  The Silver cut seemed louder, more in your face, more of an edge.  That could be due to the recording, or to the fact That Silver,  Blue Mitchell and Junior Cook were on one cut and not the other.

The mismatch in talent could have been the difference.   I would not have been able to say one was East Coast vs West Coast.

Fats Waller said, some folks like Jazz, but in small doses.  West Coast folks?

Curtis Counce was one of the first Black Jazz musicians to make it on the West Coast.   And, this was in the 40's.  Kind of late in Jazz time.

The winner:

Horace Silver by a nose.

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btw, I did something like this years ago, and was poo-hooed by The Frogman.   I think this sort of comparison is a great way to illustrate points.

Food for thought:

If white and black artists sounded the same, there would be no black artist.

Think about it.

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The Frogman is back in the straw-man business.  Where do I start.   It's late and football season is upon us.   So, we'll see.

And, if you say the ONLY difference you heard was tempo, then great NYC guru speaks with forked tongue..

More later.

***** they would never be able to tell what race the musicians are.*****

NEVER, makes your statement untrue.

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I tried to stay away, but they keep drawing me back in;

Logic is futile when talking to The Frogman. His agenda prevents him from being a honest debater.

Let’s not forget the audience and / or marketplace in all of this. In the end, they decide. And they decided, East Coast. Next question.

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Damn!!   OP you OK?   The last day or so has been an all out assault upon the senses, both aural and intellectual.   WOW.

Anyway, let's try to clean up the residual noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaeVLd4G1Zg    

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Loved the Puente clip.   We should be posting more Cuban Jazz.

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When that great Jazz Getting Up Morning comes, some of you folks will have a lot to answer for. 

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Kool-Aid Alert !!!!

I would advise all those folks in a hole, to crawl out and try and make it to Venezuela.   You will find like-minded friends in charge there.

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btw, I thought Chinese came here to work laying railroad tracks.  Dang, must have been more fake news.