Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

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I wrote down, "listening to noise'.   A man can only take so much noise.

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I listen to this CD often. Every Sunday, just seems to be Sunday, sitting on the porch,  kind of music. Beautiful music, that reminds us of when we had a real crisis, and real leadership, in this country.

Best wishes to Aficionados everywhere, esp NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TcXmBNbtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9RmnACtHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8NVo7oqNdM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b5du0TIDS4

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 First, as I have said several times before, I have trouble with the word and description “aficionado”.

Most of us here use the term as a form of self-mocking.   Making fun of ourselves.  No one takes it serious.   At least I assumed no one did / does.

To not recognize what a contribution Corea has made to the music as composer, never mind as player, only makes cgoodwin’s point.


Back in my LP days, I think Corea played with a group, can't remember who.  Anyway, I put him / them in the fusion crowd.  I have 3 CDs by Corea, all had rave reviews, I never listen to any of them.  In fact I don't even remember playing them just to post here.  I didn't mention him because I don't like his style.   For some reason I think of folks like Jarrett and DeJohnette.   Not really my thing.   If was not a scientific thing.

 you claim to be such a purist and “keeper of the flame” and yet, when someone who clearly states “I love the old stuff” and goes to the trouble of posting here for the first time you attack instead of being welcoming and encouraging more involvement.


I like the music because of the history.  I don't separate the two.   I don't consider any of it 'old'.   I always, or nearly always speak of the music and the players in the present tense. I am not a 'purist'.  A post of Mingus and one of Elmore James are both fine with me.  However, I will speak up when someone shows disrespect to the people who made and played  this great music.   And disrespect takes many forms.   Btw, EVERYONE who posts on this thread, has probably forgotten more about Jazz than I will ever know.   Hardly a keeper of the flame.

First Time Posters:
It's best get off on the right foot.  He displayed an 'audiophile' attitude.   A drive by shooter.   Makes an outrageous comment and you never hear from him again.  If you were making your first post to this thread, would that have been it?

Dibango:
Never heard of him.   His 'greatest hit' did nothing for me.  The Frogman's first law applies.   Btw, they played that tune on the French News tonight when announced his death.   I don't get it.

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The Chick Corea that has been stuck in my mind since back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppUpj90YAFU


Things seem to have changed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39lXlaj830

We now have a real bass, a real piano,  and a Saxophone.   Not a guitar in sight.   We can assume he has seen the error of his ways.  Now, if they would only get their suits out of the cleaners in time for the gig.

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Gets even better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uYDBVoUjPo

Questions to The Frogman:
When players  'quote', is it always done on purpose, or do they find themselves in a situation where it's the logical thing to do.   'Having played these notes, these logically follow' type thing.

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Boy, that MacBride sure likes to play with noise makers:


That's one way of seeing it.  I think the noise makers like the 'cover' of playing with real Jazz players.

Therefore,   it's not so much that McBride is playing with noise makers, as it is  noise makers are playing with McBride.   It's an old trick.   Pandemic in the Blues world.

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Socialist Medicine benefits only the poor, in the sense that it’s better than nothing. Slightly better.

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Don't believe all the propaganda about the US medical system.   When the leaders of all these socialist countries get sick, where do they run?
What bothered me was the summarily and almost contemptuous way he dismissed the 'old stuff'.   Like.....  yeah, yeah, yeah, we know all about them, now lets move on to the REAL Jazz players.   And who are they you might ask, well, read'em and weep.

   Snarky Puppy, Esperanza Spaulding, Jazzmeia Horn, Linda Mae Han Oh, Brad Mehldau, Adam Ben Ezra,

The Frogman's First law was written with them in mind.

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I don't have many heroes.  All that I do have, are people I know, except one, Dr Jonas Salk.  A product of the American 'system'.

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Btw, I notice you took Corea off the “list


You can't get anything pass The Frogman.   If he likes Jazz, he will be back.   I will make my apologies at that time.

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Today's Listen:

Chick Corea  --  SOLO PIANO STANDARDS  part two

Excellent Notes:  Music from 10 recorded concerts.  The first half of each concert was Jazz standards by people like Monk, Powell and composers of the great American songbook, Porter, Berlin etc...   The second half of each concert was devoted to his own compositions.
He writes a synopsis about each tune on the CD.  Very nice.  13 tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7FCfGqAhg   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97CTP1vjutQ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCL4cuHhHc   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhDrKtdqyag  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nf7vrFRN44  

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mmai

Nice list.   I am familiar with almost all, but only have Paul Chamber's "Bass on Top".
Welcome to the thread.

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What were the quotes you heard in the clips? 

'Camptown' and 'Saints' as you mentioned.

Plus, on this tune:
Corea at 6:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39lXlaj830

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you asked a question re “quoting” and I responded.  Agree? Disagree? Thoughts?

All answers to 'Questions to The Frogman' are taken here, as the gospel.

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disillusioned with racial politics in the United States and ultimately settled in Scandinavia.

He should compare notes with Valaida Snow concerning racial politics in Scandinavia. Or even with the current regimes for that matter.

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Sahib Shihab ???   From Georgia????  FTW!!!
Today's Listen:

Paul Chambers  --  BASS ON TOP
with: Kenny Burrell(guitar), Hank Jones(piano), Art Taylor(drums)

I normally think Bassists and Drummers should stay in their place, i.e. in the rear and out of sight, just let us know you're there.   But there are exceptions and Chambers is one.

Seems as if Bassists are becoming more numerous & noticeable as leaders in today's Jazz scene.

Nice booklet with great photos.   Chambers also talks about the 'wisdom' of Miles Davis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG4KfCiUVrs   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqitMFdcsMU   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU6_nMhhYDI   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnrWtO0hzBI  

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Herbie Hancock's Harvard Speech:

Hancock is certainly well spoken, but, it could have been better.   The piano demo was not as clear and effective as it could have been, unless he was talking to pros.  The bits about Miles surely could have been of a more substantial nature.

Look forward to seeing the others in the series.

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Everything you need to know about Miles can be found in Nica's book.

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I couldn’t get The Frogman’s post to magnify.

I may have misspoken. The paragraph about Mile’s wisdom was actually made by the liner notes writer, Robert Levin.

...."Paul, too, has benefited greatly from his association with Miles. No musician with any degree of sensitivity can work night after night behind the "great man" without absorbing some of his profound musical wisdom, and the results of Paul’s exposure to Miles can be heard in his music".....

More recent notes from / for the Gelder CD, by Bob Blumenthal, go into greater detail about the connection between Miles and the music on this disc. Also points out that modern recording techniques favor the bass more than in the past. (?)

Reading all this you would think Miles actually played on this session. In a sense I guess he did.

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Btw, there appears to be an actual title "Bass on Top". First held by Jimmy Blanton of the Ellington Band.

Since the station I listen to is on the computer, I never use mine anymore, and that's why they are such a bargain.


My computer is not connected to my rig, so I still use tuners.  I have three of those 'cute' little Sony HD tuners, but one has started acting strange, has to be unplugged for a day or so, every day or so.

Had to bring my Marantz out of the closet, where it has been for 11 years.   Works great.   Tuners are a great source of music for free.

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This is da blues!

Too many notes. More like rock.


This is da blues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Gt46aX9Z4

or even blues with strings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpC69qIe02E

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Btw, was the pic of the sax player Wayne Shorter?
No turner is a bargain if it does not pull in what you'd enjoy listening to.

After that, remember to old-timer advice: an average tuner with a good antenna will outperform a good tuner with a poor antenna.

My needs are simple.  I listen to one station, the local college station.  Reception is not a problem, in fact it's great.  Since my Sony is failing, I just looked, and found out that there are not that many tuners available on the market.   Seems it's Yamaha or NAD or used, and the used ones have excellent reputations.   The Sony now sells for three times the original cost.

Thanks for the response.

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McIntosh is way above my price point for a one station tuner.  But they sure look good.
Sign of the Times:

All barber shops ordered closed in Texas..  My town, with 36,000 soldiers and their families and even more military retirees, can no longer get their hair cut.  FTW!!

The Governor did declare Gun Stores 'essential', so they remain open.  Maybe he's thinking ahead.   Esp given the beginning signs of 'social unrest' in Southern Italy.   People have no jobs, no money and no food.  Cannot stand for long. 

The president may have been on to something when he said the cure cannot be worst than the disease.

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How did I miss  "Further Explorations"?   Now it's "not available".

Jane Russell is "Risque" for any time.  

Nice clip.

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Dexter:

2:06 to 2:08 approx

Not sure what it is, but it sounds like an insert, different from the normal progression of the solo..

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CELEBRATING BIRD: THE TRIUMPH OF CHARLIE PARKER

Just started, but it is obvious this book was not written for Jazz fans, perhaps his college English professors, his peers, or, heaven forbid, the faculty at Juilliard.

He never uses common easily understood language, when some esoteric mumbo jumbo will do.

But, these are early days.   Maybe it will get better.   Great Photos.

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Today's Listen:

After all it is Saturday Night.

B.B. King and Guests  --  BLUES SUMMIT

Nice fold out booklet with great pictures.  B.B. is in fine form, esp with his 'background vocals'. :)   Recorded in Memphis and Berkeley, Ca. -- 1993.

B.B. and his Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gStXFa_ZBQ4

with Albert Collins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv0J-H7VoGo

with Buddy Guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5MAZZ4HnVo    

with Etta James
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXjh6S9AAo   

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Pryso.
I have both of those.   I think I liked Guy better back in the day, esp the stuff he did with Junior Wells.   The more famous they get, the faster and louder they play, or so it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClbeBvJGaE

Etta was one bad lady.   You always got the feeling she was singing from personal experience.
The Frogman posted this, and I had to have it.  Had to buy her 'Chess Box' to get it.  Worth the effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=debDGhfzz-c

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I used to listen to blues music on the radio back in the day, had to put the table radio in the bed with me, next to my head, so I could hear it. On a 'clear channel' station coming out of Tennessee. Sold Records by mail, from ’Randy’s Record Shop’ in Gallatin, Tennessee. 78rpm. They played this a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4pp02_GN9A

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Btw, the coolest name in Blues.
Today's Listen:

Anita O'Day  --  ANITA SINGS THE MOST
with / The Oscar Peterson Quartet

Not my cup of tea, but a Diva nevertheless.   All standards.  Unremarkable notes.  Recorded 1957.  Verve.

s'wonderful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CBGqiNPDA    

love me or leave me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdTlFzBYqjs   

old devil moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeyDaioKsgU   

bewitched, bothered and bewildered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZLfaewin8A    


Is this her finest hour?   She said she didn't remember this because she was high on Heroin.   Drug addiction was a constant throughout her career.  I do admire her tenacity.   Lived to 87.

sweet georgia brown (at newport)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN2xaiNkUdg

Love the outfit.  If that's a typical Newport crowd, I don't get it.  

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Pryso,

Thanks for the WLAC link. These names really brought back memories.

Gene Nobles and Bill "Hossman" (or simply "Hoss") Allen:

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What about 'Wolfman Jack' out of Del Rio Texas, another clear channel station.
Today's Listen:

Coleman Hawkins & Ben Webster  --  COLEMAN HAWKINS ENCOUNTERS BEN WEBSTER
with / Oscar Peterson, Herb Ellis, Ray Brown, Alvin Stoller(drums)

Nice Booklet, but very small print.  Gives personal details of both players.   Both seemed to be very imposing personalities.   They were considered 'Jazz Giants', and were treated as such.   Recorded Oct 1957 -- Hollywood,Ca.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFOP67ezemU  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly2zdrtWLVc  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLK2lbRi828   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJYKIEwhy6w  

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Back in the day, you could tell Saxophone players by the hats they wore.




Cannonball / Sam Jones:

Great stuff.   Listened to them all in one sitting.   They say this quintet was not a success.   Well, his music was not the reason why.  I just love Adderley's approach to Jazz.   Always makes you feel better after having heard him play.

Sam Jones  Discography:
Wow.   I must have a hundred CDs with Jones on them!!!  Who knew??   I have his early 60s recordings on Riverside, with him as leader,  on order.   A 2-CD set.

Thanks.   Good music for a rainy Sunday Afternoon.

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Today's Listen:

Cannonball Adderley  --  THE CANNONBALL ADDERLEY SEXTET IN NEW YORK

Probably his best band, includes Yusef Lateef, Joe Zawinul, Sam Jones, Louis Hayes, Nat Adderley.

Notes: Cannonball was a terrific player.  He had been a school teacher and was the warmest, lovable, most brilliant guy.  He was a joy to be around.  What made him special was his warmth and his maturity.  He had a real understanding of the social significance of Jazz and realized that somehow, as musicians, we had to (also) be educators....--  David Amram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WgxMVWKXx4   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPv1HnliyPw   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F-dhZF9HLU  

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I have that "Sings the Winners" CD also.  I bought her based on your recommendation.  

She is good, but, the top four, my top four,  I include Dee Dee, are so good, it's hard to get noticed.

Welcome back.

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Questions to The Frogman:

Your thoughts / opinions on these three:

1 - Hebert von Karajan

2 - The Berlin Philharmoniker

3 - Deutsche Grammophon Recording Techniques

All three were once my go-to favorites.   Not so sure now.

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Mary Jo,

When I was in the Army stationed in Germany, the NCO and Officer clubs on the  bases all had live entertainment on the weekends..   Mostly bands from the USA and the UK.   But, by far, the best bands were the ones from Yugoslavia.  They were always must-see. They could do Motown as well as the folks in Detroit.   I am beginning to see why.
Many fond memories.

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Today's Listen:

Kenny Barron Quintet  --  CONCENTRIC CIRCLES

Notes?  No notes.   But we do have a list of Musical Instrument Manufacturers, that are endorsed or utilized by each member of the group.  We also have contact information for bookings around the world.  Most outrageous, is that the traditional Blue Note Label is gone.  In this case, replaced by blue circles.  All this comes under 'The State Of The Art' I suppose.

Once the music started, frowns turned to smiles.  We should all be thankful music like this is still being made and played.  Barron is one of the few keepers of the flame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7twYHNyFI    

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACAQvoptYwg  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28uZQ1K2UY  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6f7vOc_H8   

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The Frogman,
Thanks for your response.  Precise and concise as usual.   I was aware of his vanity.  I have two Beethoven cycles by him, 1963 on CD and 1977 on LP, plus 3,5,6,7,and 9 on single SACD.  However I mostly listen to Kleiber and .Karl Bohm.

He once said, "In 10 years everything will be 10th rate".  More evidence of his vanity.

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