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"Had Trane lived in Jelly Roll's time; we would not know his name"*****
Well, we can never know, but I think genius always makes itself known. Maybe Old Jelly would have started be-bopping. I cannot think of any Jazz great that could not have played in New Orleans at the beginning. IMO, of course.
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I wonder who sells the most CDs today. Mozart or Stravinsky? Hmmmm
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Consider this:
Max Roach never existed. What impact on Jazz??
Louis Armstrong never existed. What impact on Jazz?
Try the same for Miles, Coltrane, Ellington, Monk, Mingus etc.....
See how easy that was?
He was hall of fame, but not one of the most important ever.
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BTW the NYT is the outfit that hyped Stravinsky. Maybe the first Classical Composer to benefit from modern media hype. Had he lived in Mozart's time, we would not know his name.
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Rok, is there any other?*****
I remember asking my Mom the very same question a few centuries ago.
My church was started, by members of my family and others, in 1865. Building was wiped out during '27 high water, and has been at it's present location since then. Great people and music.
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Grant Green:
I have that CD. Listen to it often. I will always buy any Jazz CD that contains Spirituals or Gospel music. One of my favorites is Ellington with Mahalia Jackson.
Nice clips.
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Awesome clips. The entire quartet is gone now. End of an era.
They were always so professional and serious. In fact, I don’t think I ever saw a photo of Coltrane even smiling. Dressed the part also. :)
Thanks.
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*****fresh water, salt water, time travel, salmon, grizzly bears*****
what is this, the Old Testament of Jazz?
Time is the interval between two events.
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it's that incomprehensible connection we share with other human beings on planet earth, that enables us to communicate when we don't share the same language. ******
Good post. I often wonder about this.
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they touch and go on this thread*****
Spoken like a USAF vet. :)
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Time:
You aren't thinking about it the right way. Time did start, and it will stop.
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Touch and Go posters:
We are touch and go posters on other threads. I post on other threads, but very seldom. If something grabs my interest, I post my 2 cents, with no intention of ever posting again. Most often my Post pertain to Polk Speakers, and they are ALWAYS ignored. I understand why, so it does not bother me.
There are Jazz threads here that never last very long. What is the explanation for that? I think it's because Jazz is a small niche in popular music, and the type of Jazz we talk about, is a niche within a niche.
Most of the players we talk about are long dead. Some folks like to talk about artists that they can go to a concert and hear live. Artists that are making new CDs and LPs today. Players that are currently active.
There is nothing wrong with this thread. It's lasted a long time. We have only a handful of regulars, but that is better than trying to feign interest in music that is not real.
Besides, I don't see anyone on any other thread going out of their way to keep from hurting someone's feelings. I can testify to that from experience. If fact, the first time we encountered each other, you called the moderators on me. And I was talking to a third party!!! The first thing the OP said to me was "Did anyone ever tell you, you are crazy?" Asked if I was still taking my meds. I was still the second poster to this thread.
My point: If they wanna talk about Jazz, they will come.
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The Frogman:
What do you suggest we do? I think everyone will do whatever you think we should do to get more posters.
Often I will view a music thread where the question is "what is the best release for 2016", or "name your favorite this or that." You know, just fun stuff. I read every response. Maybe even 20 or 30. And most of the time I do not recognize not even ONE group by name. They are all well known to all the other posters. I see a lot of " +1 for so&so." etc...
Well, I think this works in reverse. When the we post Grant Green, how many viewers do you think say to themselves, " who the hell is Grant Green?? " Or Kenny Dorham?
These young guys were raised on the likes of Diana Krall. Nothing wrong with that, just saying.
But count me in on any attempt to attract new members.
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I have the Basie and Thad Jones sets. Will get the Mobley. Found it on Amazon, one of those 4 greatest CDs for the price on one. Has Message and 2nd Messages etc.... Hank Williams Jr: I liked his Father. My country taste run towards church and gospel music. Esp Blue grass. One of my most loved Blue Grass songs is 'On The Old Kentucky Shore' sung by Joan Osborne and Ricky Skaggs. The CD is 'Ricky Skaggs & Friends Sing the Songs of Bill Monroe. I Can't find it on youtube. Here is one of my favorites I could find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPGDBZdXukWill give my 2cents on Basie and Jones later today. Cheers |
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Francesco Cafiso: Loved it!!! Will check out his output on Amazon. This is a player I could buy.
Maria Schneider:
Esperanza Spalding:
From the comments section of the Spalding clip page.
{This isn't jazz, but prog rock/pop, kind of like Joni Mitchell.}
{nah there's a lot of jazz in it. genres are lame anyway}
Genres are lame???
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Solomon Burke: Not much going on with the instruments, the voice and lyrics are the thing here. Solomon is one of the all time greats and one of my favorites. However, the lyrics, though well delivered, could have been written by the Reverend Al wing of the Democratic party. Put me off.
Ben Harper and the Blind Boys. Loved it. Seems as if there are only three of the Blind Boys left. Sad.
I will post some of my Solomon Burke and Blind Boys in a minute. Great Artists
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Tikiyaki Orch:
I liked it in spite of not wanting to like it. They did forget to get to the Jazz part. A lot of Jazz musicians do that these days.
The Duke:
I have this CD. Starts off very different, tensions builds, and at 3:00, (after faking me out a few times), JAZZ!! After that, it was just The Duke we all know and love. Those reeds!! How do they do that??
Keith Jarrett:
I liked this one also. I have loved this guy since 'Koln Concert'. He seems to play for an European audience. Or maybe it's just me.
Three winners OP, or should I say Stereophile.
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Collette Big Band:
Rollins:
I saw the movie eons ago at the Peachtree Arts Theater in Atlanta.
Yellow Moon:
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The last selection isn't jazz, but it was in R2D4, and I know somebody will like it; *****
You seem to be implying that some folks might not like this. Outrage!!! Do not listen to The Ballard of Hollis Brown' while alone.
The entire CD is great, but so is everything by the Neville Bros.
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Brad Mehldau:
Excellent!! I listened to every track that was on youtube. Could not turn away. Even 'Mighty', my cat, was impressed. Maybe it was just the late hour, but it was really great. Great playing and tune selection.
Charles and Jackson:
It's all been said before.
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Wynton Marsalis --ABYSSINIAN MASS This is Wynton's latest project. I don't have it. Don't like watching it, but I wonder if I would like to listen to it on CD. Right now, it stays in the 'save for later' list. A Baptist Church in NYC always struck me a bit incredulous. I think this would have been better with a Southern Choir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSvTCGrIjO0Cheers |
O-10:
The selection process in New Orleans is brutal. Only the best survive.
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Grace, Passion and Fire:
Virtuoso playing by three masters of the Guitar. However, they forgot to get to the Jazz part.
Ever notice how albums like this will always give you a tip-off by the album cover art. Land or sea scape. That seems to indicate soundscape music inside. No foxy babe on the cover of this type music.
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I worked in a movie theater for several years. Saw a lot of cartoons, which contained a lot of great Classical Music. So did the Saturday matinee westerns.
Movies used to a great place to hear serious music and to learn to speak proper English. Not so today. :(
So maybe 'cartoon music' is not a diss.
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It's funny that one of Acmans friends called the music you presented; "Cartoon music", *****
Who said that? I don't remember it. I know I would not have let that pass unpunished. Refresh me if you can. Jamming to WAR at the moment. Dare I post them on this thread?
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RMAF16: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwcJY-qJxQ0&t=1636sI stumbled across this. I am not an Audiophile, so of course I think It's incredible boring, BUT, it's also like finding out who was 'Number 1' in the British TV series, 'The Prisoner". There are several clips. Watch them all. Interesting. Cheers |
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I have never seen so many, talk so much, and say so little; "Is it is, or is it aint, will it will, or will it wont"; that's all I wanted to know, and I never found out.*****
EXACTLY!! I did not get any info from the three or four I watched. Fermer said "we have to get the people who can afford high end, to buy more of it." WTF?
I don't think music was even mentioned.
One guy said his amps sold for 185,000 dollars U.S. I think that demands some explanation. I bet it did not cost him much more to build that amp than it did Harman Kardon to build my $300 receiver.
A good opportunity missed. All the gurus in one place and they say nothing. Perhaps there is nothing to say. It is what it is, the most lucrative business this side of the drug cartels.
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Kurt Elling:
I suspect he struck me the same way Rachelle Ferrell struck when she did autumn Leaves. A little over the top.
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that tells me there has been an increase in the number of people who can buy such stuff, and it comes along at the same time as an increase in poverty?*****
Good point.
I am finally coming around to the view that the system is rigged. There are too many people making too much money by doing absolutely nothing. They produce nothing and they create nothing. If you can make millions or even billions by punching a few keys on a computer, or shuffling a few papers around, then a $185,000 stereo amp is nothing. After all, you didn't have to work for it.
How can we have a system where hedge fund managers can bet against the market, then spend all their time making sure the markets fall, and then they makes millions. All these so-called 'instruments' are just creations someone came up with to get rich. Not based on market forces or economic performance all. Schemes. Scams. There will be a reckoning.
But all systems 'correct' themselves when they get too far out of balance. Russia in 1917, Germany in 1930's, China in the 1950s, America in _____. Hope I'm not around.
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Good Lord!! I forgot my favorite 'correction' of all time: The French Revolution. I guess we could say, "heads rolled'. hahahahahah
Owners of Yamaha receivers and Polk Speakers ARISE!!!!!
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O-10:
This should put you in your analog place!! :)
He doesn't look like a hedge fund manager.
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Rok, wondering which Wilsons you have compared the Polks to?***** The ones on the clip I sent O-10. Comparing them as they sound thru my Logitech computer speakers from a you-tube clip.. Just having fun. These:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd1JYxBZS3s
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When I looked at the price tag, I said gimme a deuce, the fact that they're Polk is our secret.*****
You were putting your 'audiophile' life and reputation at great risk. That';s almost as bad as being seen shopping in Best Buy wearing a BOSE T-shirt.
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"Some of y'all keeping the villages from having their own idiots."
From Dr John's CD "Creole Moon". "Food for thot" track.
Philosopher Indeed!
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I love, love love Gene Harris.*****
Everybody do.
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My Favorite Things:
I always felt McCoy's contribution was as great, if not greater than that of Coltrane on that tune.
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If I wasn't so lazy I would set up an account. Why don't you?*****
Ich bin auch faul.
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Seems as if the older one gets the less often they reach for the CDs on the bottom of the CD rack. I made a point, and an effort, to play the W's today. Therefore, Williams and Wilson. There are some gems down there. :)
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Today's OUTRAGE!!
James Williams -- MEETS THE SAXOPHONE MASTERS
Gerald Wilson Orchestra -- JENNA
Both very good and neither can be found on you-tube.
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do you remember "Da Funky Penguin"?*****
Mercifully, no.
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