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Very difficult to play without a rhythm section and still create that kind of groove.*****
Sort of like singing solo a capela?
Loved the Bach. I guess each horn corresponds to what would usually be a string instrument?
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"Are you sure you get it"!?*****
Are we all trapped in a temporal loop?
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There sure is a lot of "quoting" going on in Jazz.
Thanks for the insight.
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Today's Listen: Another one of the promising 'young Lions' I am sure he "quotes" something at 1:37. James Carter -- JC ON THE SET https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJFnmpfppwMaybe they all fulfilled their promise and I am just beginning to realize it. This guy can play. Cheers |
I have that CD of Gershwin / Levine. My favorite. Lets visit James Brown one more time. This is what could have been a great clip, ruined by the Carl weathers character prancing all over the place in that stupid outfit. Had me cheering for the Russian. My question concerns the babes in the blue and white outfits on either side of Brown. They seem to be dancing and moving to a different beat than is Brown and the Band. I think it's awesome, but is it true? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BL4RNFr58Thanks Cheers |
I like to look at, errrr I mean, I like to listen listen to this CD from time to time. Fantastic tune lineup. JALC should do something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSqHZy3JbH4Nice solo by Michael Brecker. Cheers |
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The "Funkettes"? Is that what they are called for real? ahahahah
The Frogman is just wealth of information. I guess if you live in the Big Apple, you just know these things..
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You are correct, it's obvious the band is not playing, but I thought they would be dancing to the music, even if recorded. Now if I could just erase Carl.
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Herbie Hancock's BUTTERFLY:
A host of 'young lions'. I enjoyed it. Hancock saved the set. Why he felt the need to involve that electronic gizmo is beyond me. It didn't add anything. The guy is brilliant on piano.
I was about to post Marcus Miller yesterday until I realize he played Bass guitar. Still find it hard to get used to those in Jazz. Still have not recovered from hearing 'Bitches Brew" for the first time.
I see they had Lynn Carrington on drums.. It's good to see her get work. Another shooting star.
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I interpreted your statement as meaning we have covered all there is of significance by Horace Silver.*****
Surely you jest!! You have not even reached Dee Dee Bridgewater yet. No Filthy McNasty? 'The Cape Verdean Blues' has some nice playing / tunes on it also. The list goes on.
Hang in there. You got work to do.
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BTW, I bet this is not a Blue Note Release. :) Surely not BN Cover art. Verve. Ain't progress grand?
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One of Silver's last recordings (1999). This is 46 years after he started with the Jazz Messengers. As you can hear, he didn't change his style of playing. I am beginning to think he is like Mingus in the sense that he is a composer first, player second. I think with some players, the composition of the group, sidemen, is more important than with others. With Silver the group personnel is critically important. Seems incorrect to call them sidemen. Since he mainly plays with a stabbing staccato style (drumming), some one has to play the melody and carry the essence of the tune. Ryan Kisor on Trumpet. I think he is another one who is now with Wynton. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bomix15duj0&index=2&list=PL4ypuAMic-Gh5kyhERAMZMFIPTnwfQxZXI like this CD. It's a sad indictment of modern Jazz that this was as good as anything else being played at the time it was released. You would have thought Silver would have been considered 'vintage' by 2000. Cheers |
What happened to the complete, detailed, in-depth, comprehensive, time no object, thorough, and exhaustive review of the music of Horace Silver?
Just asking.
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Indictment: Just my way of saying, Silver was Silver, just as he always was, and his music was still better than most , or all, in my opinion, Jazz being played almost 50 years later. Sort of like Magic Johnson coming back into the NBA today and being MVP, leading scorer and average a triple double for the entire season. That would reflect badly on the current NBA players, or maybe, just reflect on the greatness of magic. The Frogman: I have seen conductors use the regular sized batons and even no baton at all. But this? WTF, over? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak&list=RDdZDiaRZy0AkCheers |
The Frogman:
Thanks for the info on conductors and their conducting techniques.
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After that, I discovered I could hear beyond what any test equipment could measure;*****
Or put another way, that's when I begin to drink the Kool-aid. Kool-aid is more expensive than people realize.
Should have stayed with Julian.
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Horace Silver, minus The Blues, Funk and Eastern Tinge, equals: Horace Silver -- THE HARDBOP GRANDPOP This is not my favorite track, but they do 'quote' O-10's favorite song at 3:57. A first in Jazz I believe. And mercifully, also the last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSPmSh0jPQ&list=PLKITiLQ_1fJPWQYJne7OvgOcCVNjAxd_o&index=3Excellent playing by all, but not The silver we all know and Love. This one was recorded just before 'Jazz has a sense of humor'. The Silver CD I play the least. Roditi on Trumpet. Brecker on Tenor Sax. Cheers |
4:58pm Yes I did. The cartoons were one of the best things about the magazine. That was back in the day when Audiophiles were secure enough to make fun of their own behavior. Before they got mean and nasty.
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Who was the best; Donald Byrd or Blue Mitchell?*****
Hmmmmmmmm If the choice is between those two, I would say, Louis Armstrong? Lee Morgan? Freddie Hubbard? Art Farmer? Roy Eldridge? 'Sweets' Edison? Clifford Brown? Clark Terry? Miles Davis? The JALC Trumpet section? And the list goes on and on.
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Silver 'n Percussion:
The worst Silver I have heard. Too contrived. Too Third world-ish. Too, lets join the young folks. I would not have recognized him.
Sinbad Silver?
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Who is Peter Crosby?
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Ok, it's 'Grand Poobah'. From Gilbert and Sullivan.
I have not laughed this long and hard in years.
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O-10 since you are OP, that would make you the "Exalted Grand Poobah" hahahahahahahahah
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Wynton:
Most of the stuff Crosby said about Wynton's playing was first said by Miles years ago, when I think Miles did feel under threat from the young hotshot / upshot.
I bet if I asked Crosby, "who was Charles Mingus?" he would probably say "he was a bass player". Which is true, and almost irrelevant. Same with Wynton.
If you don't call on Wynton for all things Jazz, who do you call? He knows the history, he has the education and the background, he knows the music, and most important, he can articulate that knowledge to the public. He looks and speaks the part. The importance of that cannot be over stated.
Is there someone more competent on Trumpet? Enlighten us? Don't like his playing? Too bad. Deal with it. He's the man. The face of Jazz in this country. In the world.
There is one thing I know about this country for sure. Money talks, BS walks. He would not be where he is if he were not the best man for the job. Too much is at stake for BS.
Your article was 'barber shop talk'. Good way to past the time as you wait for 'next'.
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Oh no, I'm just a member of the Great Unwashed with a stereo, and a few Jazz CDs.
There is no place for folks like me in the esoteric arena of The Grand, and The Exalted Grand, Poobahs.
When you Poobahs start throwing salvos, we unwashed just duck.
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The employment office Sun Ra was great. He should leave Ellington alone. They are really from different universes.
He is much better when you can see the group. Audio only, not so great. I confess I did buy one of his LPs. I was always amazed that he got other players to buy into this stuff.
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Damn! I have played that CD a million times and I never imagined any of that. I shudder to think what goes thru your head when listening to Sun Ra.
O-10, you got moves man!
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This is good party music, not great Jazz. I always heard a sameness to all this 'soul-Jazz', esp if it was heavy on guitar and B-3. Not much different from R&B. Just better musicianship. Please don't say when you listened to this you could see yourself on the March in Selma. :) No jammin' there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dce3qcQ6qeE&list=PL8RdfaZOB1PIS6UQv66jbDoDuTuAv-KsuIf there was money to be made, his music would have been released on LP. Remember Talks and walks? The notes you quote state why his stuff was not released. Wes et al. Cheers |
Soul Jazz:
May I recommend Houston Person and Joey DeFrancesco. Can't have Soul-Jazz without great Sax play.
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I'm going to assume that means the evaluation and review of Mr. Silver is concluded.******
Not so fast my friend. You have not even mentioned some of his best LPs / CDs. Examples:
Blowin' The Blues Away Six Pieces of Silver The Tokyo Blues etc......
I am currently listening to "In Pursuit of the 27th Man". Will report tomorrow.
And you can't leave Silver without mentioning the Dee Dee Disc.
There is a reason folks don't get into the giants, it's just too much. Wanna try Ellington?
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There will always be people with a different opinion than you. Some are just haters and others just get off on different music. ******
Acman3 gave me similar advice following the infamous "Bey Sisters" episode. Those wonderful, harmonious, swinging, song birds of Jazz. Unjustly Trashed by the entire thread. Not one of 'aficionados' finer moments. But I didn't take it personally, it's just Jazz.
I still get my weekly 'Bey Sister' fix.
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Today's Listen: Horace Silver -- IN PURSUIT of THE 27th MAN Three of the tracks with the Brecker Brothers and four with David Friedman on vibes, instead of the Brecker bros. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NMNHBy9NYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed04dStgKhY This is one of those, not underrated, but seldom mentioned gems. Check out the interplay between the piano and vibes on 27th man. Wow. I just had to burst out laughing. Great stuff. I think those Brecker Brothers are the real deal. Where did the title of the CD come from? Notes: Someone running after someone or something. The 27th man is representative of the improved advance man of the future that we are all striving to become. If one has a faint knowledge of numerology, one can derive added meaning from the numbers in this title. Grand PooBahs, and Those with a 'faint' knowledge, please weigh-in and enlighten the great unwashed. Cheers
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Today's Listen: Horace Silver -- 6 PIECES of SILVER To my ear, a fairly generic CD, esp by Silver's standard. 10 Tracks, three of which are versions of 'Senor Blues'. Donald Byrd on Trumpet. This vocal version is not talked about much. Vocals by Bill Henderson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YIbV8uUI24Slower. I like it. I notice that Dee Dee did not do 'Senor Blues' on her tribute CD to Silver. Cheers |
Today's Listen: Horace Silver -- THE JODY GRIND Seems as if all Silver's recordings contain at least one 'hit' tune. On this CD, it's 'The Jody Grind'. Six tracks, all good, But my favorites are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbQG0TArT60 piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLvKi8Re5RM hip Woody Shaw on Trumpet. Notes by Leonard Feather. Notes that only The Frogman could love, or understand. BTW, Dee Dee killed 'The Jody Grind' on her tribute album. Album cover art? Disco Silver? Cheers |
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Brecker:
His talent is equaled by his stamina!! I thought about Gonsalves on 'Ellington at Newport'.
Nice clip.
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Sinatra & Jones:
No matter how illustrious the list of players, when Sinatra is involved, his persona is such that, it always seems to be Sinatra backed a group of mere mortals.
But, it was a great lineup.
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