Jazz for aficionados
orpheus10 I have been waiting for someone to post Nina Simone. I have always liked her but don't have any music by her. Here is another female pianist i like : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KyF3ji7OwG4 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nYVqijr9mAU |
mary_jo nice quiet ,contemplative clips you posted. I think the Chet Baker cut is from an album he did with guitarist Philip Catherine. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YECFPSxi4q0 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AL0tM4GKhxA |
frogman 1962. That was an early cut by Montoliu . I thought nobody could top his solo until R Rolland Kirk comes in on that stritch. The only other guy I know who plays stritch is Michael Marcus. I wanted to post by him but couldn't find a stritch cut. one more by Montoliu: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo5mDy9k9Vg |
frogman "It Never Entered My Mind" is one of my favorite songs. Montoliu uses excellent dynamics and touch on this cut. Another Montoliu http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I5VjM9dPc4c |
mary_jo P Desmond & C Baker express the mood of that song so well. Have not heard that RTF group in a while. I actually like that li eup better than the later CCDW group. Keeping a latin flavor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovV-Mum6T1Y |
pryso Glad to hear you enjoyed that show , there is nothing better then the live concert experience. Hope the sound was great wherever you were seated. Two female artists i think deserve wider recognition: Roxy Coss http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JpK5SEtjxCs http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bjl1YNZhgWE Ingrid Jensen http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROUQdD2zLPY http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P5iPzHrVZlU |
frogman Those cuts are beautiful, peaceful, tranquil. Here is my favorite version of Libertango--the first one that I heard. I have this cd in my large collection somewhere and will play it when I find it. Lol. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BxljpliziFI |
orpheus10 "Last Tango In Paris" is one of my favorite soundtracks. It was my introduction to the late ,great,tenor saxophone player. Another live version: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQNkFmgyzI |
orpheus10 Love that lush Mancini arrangement. Here's 2 more: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vEyIJgaZIQ http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWh-ppeyFB4 |
mary_jo I remember Dusko Goykovich from a big band he was in from the latye 60's -early 70's. Aptly named tune "Ballad For Miles" as he sounds so much like Miles. It sounds like it could have been recorded by Miles during his Prestige period in the 50's. A nice homage. On a similar note these two trumpet players have been criticized by Jazz writers in the past for sounding a lot like Miles' pre-jazz/rock period. Anyone have any thoughts on this...fair or unfair? Wallace Roney http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2CHb_23SriY http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6sThHsnSCrE Eddie Henderson http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SosWkzZX6lg http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4mYgOZZb2Q |
frogman your impressions match mine. Wow was that intro on Roney's live cut ragged. And yes he has copied Miles licks. All jazz players coming up listen to guys already established and copy them ...in the beginning. But most move on and find their own voice and style-That's the mark of being a jazz musician. Personal creativity and getting your own sound out of the instrument. But Roney has been on the scene for quite some time and I don't think he has found or wants to find his voice . But he has made a career of it . E Henderson on the other hand does not ape Miles licks and this is very apparent on the live cut I included. His approach and phrasing are very much his own. i like Henderson's work in H Hancock's 70's band and he made several albums in the 70's which I really liked but unfortunately no longer have. |
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-RVvJ7_Yrk mary_jo & frogman The second incarnation of Art Pepper when he came back in 1975 was quite different from when he originally started. I think the lifetime of hard living he had experienced came out in his playing. Such raw emotion , as mary_jo says , takes courage to play. I knew the song "The Prisoner " from Pepper but was not aware it came from a hit movie. Pepper w/strings http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPh4f9wrqk |
frogman I've always felt indifferent to scat singing-like what's the point? But those two cuts you posted changed my mind. Ella uses her voice to improvise just as any instrumentalist.. Especially the second cut- when she is trading back and forth you can hear the saxophone player pick up on HER phrasing and go with it in his answer each and every time. Great stuff. BTW thanks for Red Rodney article. So he didn't fool the blacks as "Albino Red" but he didn't have too. I don't think he fooled the bigoted whites either , just appeased them. |
frogman Ella's making the changes is proof that she was a consummate musician ! Here's a song by one of my favorite male singers with some scat singing that i like. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A9wS1KB6iQ8 another song with a trumpet player I really like Till Bronner http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGiSwRgu3ks ballad backed by Big Band http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DmqDUbNUfxk |
Qorpheus10 Mark Murphy had a long career starting in the 50's and he stayed in the Jazz idiom , not venturing into light Jazz or pop. He recorded for Riverside early and then mostly for Muse records. I think he has a powerful , expressive voice , especially on ballads. I don't like everything he has done with the right material he hits it out of the park. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61d7PpVmfzU http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QPq3d27n0-Q BTW-I went back to listen to the Eddie Jefferson cuts you posted as I want more exposure to singers. He has a really excellent sense of swing . I will seek out a recording by him. I read a bio of him giving him credit for putting lyrics to Jazz songs before anyone else , including "Body And Soul"? |
orpheus10 I took your post in the element in which it was presented- as a song from a classic movie soundtrack. I enjoyed this interpretation and would make no attempt to classify it's genre. BTW i enjoyed your injection of humour and my vote goes to the conductor- but i am partial to asians as my girlfriend is asian. I will admit to not being a fan of classical music but do enjoy Jazz music when it has classical elements . One of my favorites is the following from Don Sebesky: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-SpyKPp4Ss I highly recommend the entire album |
Some Charles Mingus to welcome your morning(or perhap evening if in a diiferent time zone) http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WyOlc8BaR0A http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ys-h1d0kY http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xf2ZRxYehaI |
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever_(Little_Willie_John_song) frogman Enjoyed Peter's version of "Fever" but I am with pryso in that Peggy Lee's version is best IMHO . pryso- Yes it was Shelly Manne ! here is the proof: link above interesting back story : Lee's 1958 version included different lyrics (by her)and different tempo. When singers do a cover it is her version that seems universally copied. |
pryso Right ! Little Willie John's "Fever" was probably not a national hit maybe just local. Your post is a classic hit and a classic car. Is that a 58 Chevy? maryjo mentioned liking Elvis's "Fever" http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSeyfWTLnWg# http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0gApye34low orpheus10 +1 Wardell Gray I think maryjo posted a cut by Norah Jones. This cut and a cd of hers I borrowed from my library sounded like she leans towards country music style. Has she done any thing in the jazz idiom? |
acman3 I liked Tierney Sutton's "Fever" . She can do no wrong as far as I am concerned. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3Kw6CihEc |
frogman although I agree with supertweak that "Mysterious Traveler is creatively unique I really prefer the 1st three albums by Weather Report. Although I may agree the tunes on MT had more structure I like the extended pieces on the earlier albums which breathe with more open space and emphasis on the individual players and their interactions . My feeling is that as Zawinul became more prominent this element was lost. And also Shorters contributions seemed to fade with Zawinul's ascendancy. I don't listen to "Heavy Weather " anymore. That was the album that. introduced me to the group but I feel my tastes have changed over time. As far as W Shorter in concerned I think he is under appreciated as a composer and saxophone player. Although he came up in the bebop era he forged a playing style so unique in the 60's with M Davis group. His probing never rushed solos which took advantage of space were unlike anyone at the time. It fit well with Davis who also used less notes and used space within his solso to create a mood. And Idon't think Shorter gets enough credit for the compositions he wrote for Miles 60's group. I can't say enough abput this group and their move away from bebop which had dominated for almost 20 years. I am going back to that group to relisten to their output to gain new insights into the high level of musicianship they created. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJ9NEyxk8I http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xUC8NuiuXcs http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZOoepKkpeI |
Early Weather Report: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eP4tzCLWEX4 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=04fPJ3PEV9M |
Some tunes getting play on my system last night: Coleman Hawkins -Sirius 1966 date w/Barry Harris piano http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgo47fMpsxw http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGC3E8jVbM I ask are there any current player(s) who can play a ballad as beautifully as Hawk? Phineas Newborn An excellent piano player who may not be as well known as others. Recorded for Contemporary with other major players. Very swinging player with an inventive mind. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khn4QBLS88E http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IJALytAL6oM |
frogman Yes that effect Dorham uses at the minute mark in "Blue Bossa' is not a mistake and I have heard it from other horn players, Scott Hamilton comes to mind regarding this effect. In fact I believe Joe handerson uses this effect at about the 10 sec mark into the other cut you posted from "An Evening With" .Yes? I can't add much more than what you have said about Henderson and agree he is up there as one of my favorite tenor players of that era. Such an inventive soloist and terrific songwriter. He might not have the name recognition of a Sonny Rollins , Coltrane or Dexter Gordon but certainly belongs in that group when evaluating top tenor players. ghosthouse I don't know how much exposure you've had to Henderson but you can't go wrong with ANY of his Blue Note work and also his later recordings on Milestone records. Thanks for bringing attention to him. I need to dig out my vinyl lp's with Henderson and relisten. Joe as sideman w/G Green: JOES SOLO STARTS AT 7:48 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaFDFP7m_E |
pryso haha . Yes we all did not have the long green back then . It looked like a Chevy Bel-Air a neighbor had in high school which I thought was a really cool car. Can't help you out with the 45 changers , was not aware they even had that feature available. Good choice on the "Musing For MILES" .Another late Henderson album is "lush Life" that I recommend . A tribute to B Strayhorn music. Have not heard from orpheus10 lately hope he is doing okay. Thanks to Alexatpos for additional Henderson. |
alexatpos Thanks was not aware of "The Kicker" . Yes it is hard to know who's date some of these releases were meant to be. Just glad it was issued. Henderson & Dorham collaborated well her are tunes from "Trumpet Toccata" http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lhtwZ1UNiT0 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUz-6CZXWO4 Another Dorham/Henderson live from 1963 : http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLBsjJmUFkU Thanks for posting some more P Newborn JR. . Being fairly new to the forum I am not always aware of previous postings I am glad he has received some recognition. |
alexatpos Thanks for bringing up Don Friedman , a pianist and compser I hold in high regard. He came up at the same time as Bill Evans but is not as well known. I feel all of his early 1960's music was very original and used early free playing with conventional bop. My picks : A Day In The Life http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JPM3oDZJ-q0 Dreams And Explorations http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWap1BeOX3A http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3byGJ-K06Xo |
Jafant & alexatpos I found an excellent interview W/ D Friedman and y es he did know& admire B Evans . And yes he went his own way which is why I started listening to him years ago. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NRgSqW_VxOA |
jafant A recommendation of a later Don Friedman recording- Waltz For Debby( hybrid sacd) .Contains 4 Friedman originals and 6 standards. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ozKBrs_s6E This track is on the cd but this video is a different version http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xRFrzx6FdHw |
frogman I have always liked Dexter Gordon's music and feel his style is very distinctive. The way he plays slightly behind the beat with a deep tone sets him apart from other tenor players. I can usually identify him after hearing 8-16 measures of a song. I have a question which is two-part: what musicians influenced him coming up as a young player ( I am assuming C Parker is one) and which players has he influenced who came up after him. I read somewhere that Sonny Rollins was influenced by him but in a Rollins interview I have he cited Coleman Hawkins as a big influence. But I was listening to "Moritat" ( Mack The Knife) from Saxophone Colossus and thought I heard Dexter's influence. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOnhR5zkXs |
alexatpos great find of that 1969 clip of Grant Green. He was really the top player in the 60's IMO. Speaking of guitarists does anyone like John Scofield? For many years I disregarded him for having too much of a "rock" sound unlike my favorite jazz guitar players-- Green, Jim Hall, Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass. But in the last year or so I have come back around to listening to his albums and have a new appreciation for his work. Nobody I can think of gets the sound out of an electric guitar like he does. It reminds me of the early work of my favorite guitar player, Larry Coryell. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nFvz_JHOors from album Quiet with orchestrations by Scofield http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3yHOFgKc94s http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B3MdTjUlcsQ |
frogman Thanks! i would have never thought of Ammons and I don't know M Royal. "Relaxed" is a very good term to describe Dexter. And may I add a seemingly endless fountain of original ideas. Dexter is not my go-to tenor player for that era ( that would be Rollins, Henderson, Getz , Coltrane ) but every so often I pull out a Blue Note or Steeplechase by him , and sit back and enjoy the ride. It is too bad about his drug use I will have more to say on that subject later. Nice cut acman3 posted and you are right there were 4 quotesby Dexter. I had to listen twice because the 1st quote happended at the beginning of his solo at about :57 sec.. |
frogman Could be a good find but I have most of the impulse albums from that period except Duke Ellington meets John Coltrane which I would buy before this." Nature Boy" with no solos? The cut included sounds like a lot of his output from that period. This might be a session which he or impulse didn't want to release at the time. |
quiet and mellow for a sunday: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3yHOFgKc94s Rollins http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7PU7e6ZJe4 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXFaJpb-reg |
Big band VAO doing Duke Ellington: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ9INVXojgQ http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUndlGF6Bpg |
jafant You recently mentioned Chick Corea's birthday!! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pb5NEC_2Svk http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nr-QwptUcA |
Igoler +1 for Harold Vick http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYs2dBEbgNE http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_DQsctnqDNO And Jimmy Raney http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBnpVxY-6kg |
jafant +1 Tierney Sutton http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3Kw6CihEc Have you heard her album of Joni Mitchell covers? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikG_JaQ4vXk |
orpheus10 Glad you are back I asked about you several times. Wishing you well over this next period and hoping you get the best care as needed for your health. About Wynton Marsalis- I am not a big fan of his (he would probably not make my top 20 for trumpet players) but I was surprised about your statement that he could not compose? I believe he has a a body of written work which has been recognized by fans all over the world and I am a big fan of the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra which he has headed for many years. |
frogman Well said I concur completely with your statements and do not have anything to add. And I agree with you and pjw that the music should be addressed if someone does not like it and not have personal biase towards an individual. If someone posts something I am not interested in or don't like I usually will not say anything . |
