Thanks frogman for your candid take on Steve Coleman, The Five Elements and M Bass Collective. I agree 100% that the oft rotating musicians in Coleman’s collaborations are always creating and evolving. The signature Coleman blues/funk grooves are an expression of funk that stand alone IMO. The list of great musicians that have joined Coleman over the years is a testament to the ongoing quest and enjoyment of creating new sounds. I really like that duo album you posted with Coleman and Dave Holland. I have all of the Holland albums in which Coleman appeared on except that one which I will remedy soon. I have about 20 of Coleman’s releases as a leader. I have one M Bass collective album titled "Anatomy Of A Groove" Steve Coleman is also a fantastic composer/arranger who "blows up" the recently discussed "everything sounds the same" discussions. Here are a couple of good ones live in Paris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceIVYwaNIyYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Yq0pZu7xAAnd a couple from his album "Synovial Joints" 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrb-BaTcYt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO33-sQWxgI
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orpheus10
You are the OP of this thread. Do you really want to turn it into a sociopolitical thread?
Or shall we stick to music?
Just asking because I like your posts on music but the other stuff is not appropriate IMHO.
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Why cant everyone just chillout and post music like acman3???
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Hello all JFA people
Been a while and I am happy to see frog, rok, acman, pryso, mahgister, alek and all my old JFA people still posting.
I have been posting here for 5 years and I cannot recall anyone posting about Hugh Masekela. Anyway I like the late Masekela who passed in 2018. Hugh lived through all of that BS in South Africa and still managed to put out some serious jazz.
Did I mention he is also a really great trumpet player.
(26) Masquenada - YouTube
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acman3
Bill Pierce is one fine saxophone player.
The Tony Williams drum intro at Umbria Jazz 1988 is amazing. His technique on the snare drum is flawless. One of the greatest drummers to ever sit behind a kit.
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In reading these recent posts I could understand why Schubert feels the way he does. Schubert, for quite sometime now, has had a great rapport with the 2 fellows that ushered him off this thread because of their recent posts belittling him.
Schubert if you are still monitoring this thread I think you should not let those two have any influence on you. I thought your posts here over the last year or so were honest and informative and you never belittle any members here.
Keep on participating and just ignore the 2 members who, although they both have posted opinions that discreetly embrace racism and bigotry, are for the most part harmless. Out of thousands of posts by both of them a very small percentage are abrasive and belittling towards other members.
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Schubert
Everybody loses their cool once in a while when something really gets to them. I think you should forget about it and keep contributing to the thread.
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Dexter Gordon's solo on "Tanya" from the album "One Flight Up" is a masterpiece as well. It also happen to be one of my favorite jazz songs. Just a great composition. Along with Gordon is Donald Byrd on trumpet, Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen on bass, Kenny Drew on piano and Art Taylor on drums. No wonder its such a great tune and album as well. A must have for jazz aficionado's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaxb70VaEZs |
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alex Great clip of Horace Silver and his band. I know of Bill Hardman but like you I have nothing with him as a leader. I do have 6 CD's of Howard McGhee. He is another great trumpeter that does not get the accolades he should. Besides Dizzy Gillespie, Roy Eldridge, and Fats Navarro he was one of the main trumpet players who ushered in the bebop craze on his trumpet. Unlike Dizzy, who did not use heroin, Navarro succumbed to it, along with Tuberculosis at age 27. McGhee also was a user but he was able to "get a grip" and recorded around 30 albums as a leader in a 30 year period from the late 40's - late 70's. Howard McGhee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA0X_RYED7Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AORubCN8W_A |
alex
I have those discs of Howard McGhee with the songs you posted.
They are all excellent examples of McGhees ability on the trumpet. Like you said nobody seems interested. I thought our OP might comment because he likes be bop and Sonny Stitt.
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I agree with the frogman.
I can easily decipher Monk on the title track. Silver and Monk are easily discernable.
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orpheus10
I agree with you its not worth the trouble except if you are in a financial situation where you can afford true audiophile grade gear. A 25,000 - 100,000 dollar audio rig is for people that make at 250,000 - 1,000,000 per year.
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ghost house,
Charnett Moffett - Music From Our Soul is an excellent album. But I still miss mary_jo….
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alex,
My friend has a turn table and tube preamp (phono) and tube amp. He has decent speakers. He lives an hour from me so I'm not over there much. The last time I went was to listen to that Joe Pass LP you sent me.
The music sounded great on the TT setup. Most of my digital music also sounds great to me. Not all but most. It depends on the source.
If I was in a better financial situation, with more free time, I would probably try a good analog set - up. That not being the case I have an Oppo SACD player, a top of the line Yamaha AVR, Emotiva 200 wpc for front R and L tower speakers, and 2 matched subwoofers. I switch to the towers and subs for music in "pure audio" sound (stereo and mono)
I have a 5:2 setup. All speakers are the JBL Studio L series released in 2005. I have the L-890 towers front R - L, LC2 center, L820 surrounds, and 2 L8400P subwoofers(600 Watts continuous 1200 watts peak internal digital amp). When listening to music I have a total of 400 watts through the front towers via the 85 pound Emotiva amp (true 200 wpc@ 8ohms) and 1200 watts continuous 2400 watts peak power with the dual subs.
My whole rig was around 5k which was perfect for me. The 7 JBL speakers was the most expensive part of my gear.
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orpheus10,
Do you realize that you have spent the better part of 4 days now making sure everyone is aware that "Somethin Else" is a Cannonball Adderley album?
The thing is we all know this so why keep at it?
By the way I have "Somethin Else" on 3 separate discs. SACD hybrid, 24/192 pcm HDAD, and a RVG remaster. All 3 sound different yet all 3 are good.
Of course the SACD and HDAD sound better then the RVG RM. I'm happy I bought the DSD versions when they came out as they are selling for ridiculous prices now.
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frogman, That KOB was a seminal recording that ushered in the "Modal Jazz" with such a unique and beautiful body of work, but yet still "accessible" to the masses is a testament to the fact that Miles was always evolving and not afraid to lose some of his fans to try new sounds. In 2019, it was certified Quintuple Platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for shipments of over five million copies in 2003 it was ranked number 12 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. It was voted number 14 in Colin Larkin's All Time Top 1000 Albums. Kind of Blue isn't merely an artistic highlight for Miles Davis, it's an album that towers above its peers, a record generally considered as the definitive jazz album, a universally acknowledged standard of excellence. Why does Kind of Blue possess such a mystique? Perhaps because this music never flaunts its genius. ... It's the pinnacle of modal jazz — tonality and solos build from the overall key, not chord changes, giving the music a subtly shifting quality. ... It may be a stretch to say that if you don't like Kind of Blue, you don't like jazz — but it's hard to imagine it as anything other than a cornerstone of any jazz collection. Seminal - 1(of a work, event, moment, or figure) strongly influencing later developments |
frogman, That Cannonball album is excellent. I have 2 versions of it. Here is another Miles/Cannonball album I have recorded on 2 dates in 1958 with the future KOB band . There is some controversy about this album because it was reissued a few times after its initial release on LP and CD with some of the reissues having extra songs an/or bad sound quality. The original LP release 1n 1974 contained 4 songs recorded live at the Plaza Hotel NYC and 4 recorded at Columbia's 30th St. studio. Its the same exact personnel that recorded KOB the following year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvOoIdBDHH0 |
I have an Emotiva XPA - 2 amp. Around 5 -10 years ago they were the best amps available in their price range. I paid 700.00 for mine brand new from Emotiva in 2013.
Its a class AB 2 channel amp with 250wpc. It literally made my front JBL towers "come to life" it weighs 85 pounds!
I am not sure why but Emotiva stopped manufacturing their "audiophile grade" amps at a working mans price and used Emotiva'a are selling for double their original price and sometimes more then that.
I heard their 500 watt monoblocks were class A - AB and are highly sought after by audiophiles. If I remember correctly they were selling brand new in 2012 - 13 for 1200.00 dollars!
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Does anyone else own a Emotiva amp?
They were/are the best sounding amps in their price range. Some "audiophiles" said that the A-AB mono blocks at 2500 per pair sounded as good or even better the mono blocks costing 5x the price.
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Emotiva still manufactures the XPA - 2 but it is called the gen - 3. I would check as may reviews as you can on this amp before making a purchase. They are still number one in quality to price ratio. Here is the link to the XPA - 2 gen - 3. https://emotiva.com/collections/amps/products/xpa-2-gen3For home theater applications they offer 7, 5, and 3 channel amps as well. Emotiva also manufactures high end pre - amps as well. And they too are priced for the working man. Here is their flagship model: https://emotiva.com/collections/pre-amps/products/xsp-1Of course it is all solid state. My knowledge of tube amps is limited as I have never been interested in going down that road. I have only listened to a handful of "tube systems" in my life and none of them impressed me enough to make me switch from solid state. What I do know is that a good tube system with power approaching that of a solid state system can get very pricey in a hurry. Those using inexpensive/budget tube systems cannot compete with solid state. |
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You cannot go wrong with Sennheiser headphones. The HD 650's have been the main choice for "budget audiophiles" such as myself for 2 decades. They debuted at just under 500.00 but now can be had for 350 - 400 new depending on where you buy.
The HD 660 is the new "budget audiophile" headphones from Sennheiser although they did not discontinue the HD 650's.
If the HD 660's sound anything like the older 650's or better (I would'nt know as I never compared the 2) then you will have excellent headphones for years to come. Congratulations!
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roc
Let me know your conclusion when you do your Sennheiser HD 650 - 660 comparison.
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Great clips of female vocalists from all of you. Here is a lady from Italy that Hank Jones gave the highest accolades to. I have this album and consider it a great display of vocal talent. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002EE57QM/?coliid=I2L5L2N2CMIW5V&colid=2MJEFFF7AFXNS&psc=0Amazon blurb: Every once in a while, a truly great singer comes along who possesses the beauty, individuality and talent to remind us of the magic and majesty of the human voice: that singer is Roberta Gambarini, celebrated throughout the world by fans, critics and many of the world's greatest musicians. With the August 25, 2009 release of `SO IN LOVE,' Roberta Gambarini affirms her status as the "true successor to Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, and Carmen McRae" (Boston Globe) and "the best singer to emerge in over 60 years," as declared by 2009 GRAMMY Lifetime Achievement Award recipient, Mr. Hank Jones. Mr. Jones, the legendary pianist who accompanied Roberta Gambarini's 2008 major label debut, `You Are There,' a superb follow-up to Gambarini's GRAMMY-nominated debut, `Easy to Love,' knows a thing or two about great vocalists - he has accompanied almost all of the most renowned vocalists of the 2oth century such as Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Sarah Vaughan, Carmen McRae, Peggy Lee, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, Nat "King" Cole, and Billy Eckstine. Roberta didn't set out to call the new album `So In Love,' but looking back at the song list after the recording, she realized that the "album is all about love: the love between a man and a woman, the love of song, children, and most of all, the love of life." As Roberta explains, she rarely goes into the studio with a "concept," instead she says that she tries "to let the songs come out of a balance between life experience and reflection," capturing the music I feel in the moment." Joining her in this adventurous journey is a group of "exceptionally talented, sensitive, and sympathetic musicians," who are long-time supporters, friends, and collaborators of Roberta since her arrival in the States from Torino, Italy: James Moody; Roy Hargrove; Tamir Hendelman; Eric Gunnison; Gerald Clayton; Chuck Berghofer; Neil Swainson; George Mraz; Jake Hanna; Al Foster; Montez Coleman; and Jeff Hamilton. Recorded by Al Schmitt at the legendary Capitol Studios, with Roberta arranging all but two of the tracks, `So In Love' is dedicated to the loving memory of her dear friends, Johnny Griffin, Ronnie Mathews, and David "Fathead" Newman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-c90wXB-J |
acman3 I have that Art Ensemble of Chicago and associated ensembles 21-CD box-set.
Very eclectic jazz would be an understatement.
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Thanks for that link pryso.
When I first heard Tal (and saw her as well) It was on the Jeff Beck live at Ronnie Scotts bluray which I bought 10 year ago. She looked like she was 18 years old. (check my Jeff Beck link above).
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Rok, I have a 2 CD set titled "Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers" at the jazz corner of the world which has "Just Coolin" plus another CD.
Amazon is selling this used for $41.11 plus shipping.
I have no idea what's going on?
This Blue Note article explains it all: http://www.bluenote.com/art-blakey-jazz-messengers-just-coolin/
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Since I consider myself an "Art Blakey completist" the new release is already in my collection. |
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