@frogman and @mahgister
Pat Martino's El Niño and Cisco?! This is some of the best stuff I've heard in a long, long time! I like anything, with a little Spanish Tinge...Thank you both - dearly...
Jazz for aficionados
Jazz for aficionados
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.
Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.
The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".
"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.
While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.
Enjoy the music.
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@acman3, Wow! Thanks! I see on wiki there many different version than the original 5 song album release. The 2001 Expanded Edition has total of 22 songs! Check it out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana_Moods ’Charlie’ Mingus. Lol!
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@mahgister, I was surprised to find a total of 3, and you say there’s a 4th? Way cool... |
It’s good to see young folks not only playing jazz but coming to the shows and supporting the new artists. These are 2 videos of the same song with a whole lot of improvisation with at time, different band members. Chief Adjuah aka Christian Scott - West of the West |
Another young jazz lion...Robert Glasper - So Beautiful (Live At Capitol Studios) (Official Video) |
Someone posted a youtube Michael Brecker music audio a while back and I tried to find it but couldn’t. If anyone can find that link for me it would be much appreciated. As I mentioned in another thread I get a lot of ’new’ music here that I have never heard and that muscc audio is exactly what I was talking about and I like to bookmark them.
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It was Michael Brecker - Tales From The Hudson - Man, thank you so much kind sir! Michael Brecker - The Mean Time - Is just icing on the cake.
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A very unheralded guitar slanger that some may know and most know nothing about. Stanley Jordan plays Eleanor Rigby Stanley Jordan Trio - Return Expedition (Live in Montreal 1990) Les Paul & Stanley Jordan INSANE Jam
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I finally got around to listening to the album. The album is called, (The) Robert Glasper Experiment - Black Radio 2 and it has 16 songs with Anthony Hamilton, Brandy, Common, Dwele, Emeli Sandé, Faith Evans, Jill Scott, Lalah Hathaway, Luke James, Lupe Fiasco, Malcolm-Jamal Warner, Marsha Ambrosius, Norah Jones, Patrick Stump, as well as Bilal, Eric Roberson, Jazmine Sullivan, Jean Grae and Macy Gray appeared on a deluxe version of the album. That’s a lot of guest artists to put on 1 album and it sounds like it too, in a good way. I was very impressed with the musicianship. The young folks would consider it as Jazz as I think that is who it is targeted to. This album has a lot of ’meat on the bones’ and takes awhile to listen to with a fresh, up to date take on jazz. It’s definitely a keeper to be put in rotation. Robert Glasper Experiment · Black Radio 2 |
Here’s some mellow easy going Saturday (rainy maybe?) music for you good folks. Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays - September Fifteenth - From - As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls
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@stuartk, I’ve been away for awhile and haven’t had a chance to catch up to all the music posts but thanks for the Peter Bernstein post. |
So, I gotta share this with y’all. This is in reference to an audiogon forum posting from: And to responding and researching this forum post, I found this very copacetic (or is it copesthetic?) website. Check it out: Roy DuNann, Engineer - From - The The Skeptical Audiophile - In Search of Better Records Apparently, this Roy DuNann of Contemporary Records was a master recording engineer. And also apparently the above site, has a plethora of master recordings of some stone cold jazz for y’all to check out. Scroll all the way down to the bottom to see all the records. @acman3, I got some ’spanish tinged’ jazz music ’backatya’ that’s swinging pretty darn hard! Barney Kessel from the album ’Carmen’ ’Out of print Barney Kessel album. Swingin’ interpretation of the Georges Bizet opera with stellar performances, featuring André Previn on keys. This is ripped from the original 1959 UK Mono pressing.’
Side 1 0:00 Swingin’ the Toreador 05:51 Pad on the Edge of Town 12:36 If You Dig Me 16:40 Free As A Bird Side 2 21:36 Viva El Toro! 24:52 Flowersville 30:52 Carmen’s Cool 35:34 Like, There’s No Place Like... 39:35 The Gypsy’s Hip
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@audio-b-dog, I may have felt the way you’ve felt when I first encountered this thread, but after awhile, slowly, I could not disavow the sheer musical talent and universal vibes of the artists shared here. The musical vibrations that my fellow members have shared here will never be recorded again. And what fascinates me the most of the music (played) posted here is, believe it or not is mostly "NEW" to me. And ain’t nothing like one of your partner’s introducing (turning you on!) you to new music! For example, if you click on @stuartk’s recent link: You will see and notice - it is a small universe unto itself of music I and most here have never even heard of before! I had no idea when I came here that jazz was so bountiful! I thought it was a finite medium. Also keep in mind that most of us here have some very badass bosco audiophile grade rigs to which to reproduce these heavenly vibrations on wax, cd, reel to reel and even maybe streamer sometimes. So that has a lot to do with keeping this jazz vibe alive also This thread was started by orpheus10 in Now I see you claim to be a aficionado of the so called Brazilian jazz? Hmmm? But what I see is your machinations of ’Brazilian Jazz’ are really music that was recorded in and for and released in the US market. Do I have your attention now? Again I say, believe it or not, if you care to look and delve into this thread, there is some ’show nuff’ made, written, produced, played, recorded, sung in Portuguese, and pressed in Brazil for Brazilian consumption, ’straight up’ Brazilian jazz (jazz Brasileiro) here in this very thread! That's if you care, or should I say dare to look! And then YOU will be introduced (tuned on!) to REAL Brazilian jazz...right here. Surely if you comeback, and we all here hope you do, we will look forward to your posts and music that you can share with us, indeed. As someone here once told me, ’don’t be a stranger’... Tchau
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@jafant, Elaine Elias is new to me! I’m one of those ’gatos’ who got deep into not only music from the times of the 1959 movie Black Orpheus (Orfue Negro) 1959 Trailer but the even older historical music from the birthplace of Samba itself, Salvador da Bahia, Brazil. Oh I got it bad! Real bad! @audio-b-dog, I have probably thousands of albums of Brazilian music on flac. I was trying to learn Portuguese by what I call ’the easy way’ by downloading (bootlegging?) music from Brazil and listening to it. Actually here is the very site I got most of my Brazilian music from and it’s still active! Flabbergasted Vibes P.S. I hope I haven’t taught you to much, to fast! We want you to come back... |
@mahgister, oowee! I have to say, Mari Nakamoto, a first blush, is very Nancy Wilson-esk! |
Bobby Hutcherson - Happenings 1967 - ℗ 2006 Blue Note Records Remaster of Rudy Van Gelder Edition
’I just thought I’d share some vibes music today’
Associated Performer, Composer - Vibraphone (tracks 1-6), marimba, drums (track 7 only): Bobby Hutcherson Producer: Alfred Lion Mastering Engineer, Studio Personnel, Recording Engineer: Rudy Van Gelder Associated Performer - Piano, box full of rocks (track 7 only): Herbie Hancock Associated Performer - Bass (Vocal): Bob Cranshaw Associated Performer - Drums, marimba (track 7 only), triangle (tracks 2, 7), timpani (track 7 only): Joe Chambers Producer: Michael Cuscuna |
Agreed! |
The Hap’nin’s Frankie And Johnny Gigi Gryce Quintet - Richard Williams - The Hap’nin’s ℗ 1960 Prestige Records Distributed by Concord. Released on : 1960-01-01 - Recording Engineer: Rudy Van Gelder Producer: Esmond Edwards Mastering Engineer: Phil De Lancie Composer Lyricist: Traditional @acman3 Thank you, for this 1960ish, Jam Session! |
@wharfy I've never even heard of the musician Randy Weston. So thanks for the introduction! |
Randy Weston - African Rhythm Orchestra Live at The Montreux Jazz Festival (1985) - African Cookbook Some Sunday morning, listening music. |
Randy Weston • African Cookbook - Full Album ℗ 1972 Atlantic Records |
Another Jam Randy Weston - African Sunrise - African Rhythm Orchestra Live at The Montreux Jazz Festival (1985) With a kind of Fania All Star Vibe I really like.
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@viridian, I was simply blown away by this album even though it was only a partial few of the cuts I could find and listen to. I’m thinking this album Duke Lumumba - Jungle Funk was recorded in 1968 maybe? If so, I think it was years ahead of its time. The musicianship is astounding, even though I had to come back to it and listen again. I was also impressed with producer – Phil Wright in the high quality of recording. This album’s got a Hugh Masekela/Crusaders type vibe going on. This is a well hidden jewel that needed to be put out there. This is a record I’d go out and buy. Much respect to and for the artist Duke Lumumba to title this (jazz) album ’Jungle Funk’ in 1968-69 ish. @viridian, talk about off the beaten path, what else you got? |
https://youtu.be/_ww-XDuaxcw?si=U7wgDEPIuQbI0Lk2 https://youtu.be/CYg_3pQN-LU?si=ae_7wf47y-lnPdBw These two links, I don't know if it's the musicianship and musicality or the musicality and the musicianship? This is killer stuff. |
My turn...And in Portuguese too. Leny Andrade - Estamos Aí -1965 Full Album Os Cobras - O LP - 1964 - Full Album Baden Powell - Swings With Jimmy Pratt -1963 (FULL ALBUM) I like it when we stretch out here...It sharpens the musical mind muscle.
This may not be jazz, but this song is an Opus all of and on its own. Years ago I popped this cd in my car’s cd player as a friend and I were going to dinner and as she was singing the song and also surprised that I had a cd of one of her countrymen, she cried like a baby while singing cause she missed her Rio de Janeiro, Brazil somethin bad. The Brazilians have a word for what she was feeling, Saudade.
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@audio-b-dog, with the Isao Suzuki Trio – Black Orpheus Full Album (1976), I was always a sucker for some nice and easy Rhodes playing and the drummer just brushing away...A Taste Of Honey - Morgana King. Wow! And Yusef Lateef "Love Song From Spartacus," You're stretching out on these cuts. And these are tunes I've never heard before. @acman3, Mal Waldron Reminiscent suite and Black Forest very nice gems you've introduced me to here this morning. |
@stuartk, I didn’t take your Milton Nascimento’s Clube Da comment in anyway negative. In fact I was and are in complete agreement with you! @foggyus91, wonderful descriptor of Afro Cuban Jazz! Although your youtube example of Afro Cuban Jazz, CubaLandz: Afro Cuban Jazz | Concert | Bozar Jazz seems well, kinda schmaltzy and even amateurish at best. Now these are examples of Afro Cuban Jazz: Dizzy Gillespie - Manteca. I am a huge, big fan of the percussionista mastro Chano Pozo. Dizzy Gillespie about Chano Pozo and Manteca’s story I’m also a big fan of Mario Bauza, Machito, of course Tito Puente and Eddie Palmieri who incidentally along with a host of others introduced me to the music of the New York based group Fania All Stars music. I can only imagine being at the Palladium in New York in the late 1950’s and late 1960’s jamming with Tito Puente. +1 @frogman! Elis Regina (and Antonio Carlos Jobim) is an impeccable musician of immense talent. I can listen to and be captivated by Elis Regina for hours.
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@audio-b-dog, you are a man after my own heart. I bought this cd of Rosa Passos - "Pano pra Manga" [1996] (Álbum Completo) in Salvador da Bahia at Randy Roberts record store Cana Brava Records in the barrio of Pelourinho, the historic center of Salvador, Brazil. What a small world we live in, brother. When Brazilians speak (and sing) in their native Portuguese, the accent it has, they do so with and in a rhythm that comes with their cultural upbrings. And there’s nothing like it on earth. I also bought this cd too while I was there Banda Black Rio - Gafieira Universal - full album 1978 and this is a Rio Funk (pronounced ’funky’) album. And to think my intentions were to post a Freddie Hubbard album - First Light 1971 - full album...Hmm |
@audio-b-dog, The first time I heard of Tania Maria it was the song Don’t Go - 1985(?) which was a minor hit in the states, she sung in english and the song was very very funky and at the time when it came to Brazilian artists I was listening to only Brazilian artists on US labels such as Airto Moreira, Eumir Deodato and Flora Purim, to name a few.Then in the early 2000’s I wanted to visit Brazil and started to listen to Brazilian based recordings to help with my learning of Portuguese and the culture of Brazil so Tania Maria’s music wasn’t something I listened to because I was listening to what would be described as her musical heroes from Brazil who had much older recordings that I was fascinated with. Artist like Candeia, Cartola and Os Tincoãs, to name a few. I was trying to find the essence of Brazilian music without any US influence, if you will. Real ’old school’ Brazilian music. As I said in an earlier post, I had it real bad in those days.Here is a video of the artists Os Tincoãs with their daughters of a song originally released in 1973(?) Mateus Aleluia e Thalma de Freitas - Cordeiro de Nanã | Compacto Petrobras. In this song they are singing to the deities in Candomblé, Orixás: Iansã , Obaluaê and Iemanjá. At the time I was trying to find and understand the root(s) of Brazilian music. This is a beautiful song straight out of and from the Recôncavo Baiano region of Bahia, Brazil.Now this album here, Vinicius + Bethânia + Toquinho - La Fusa (Mar del Plata) (1971) I’ve always liked this black and white album and thought it was a tour de force by the three artists together.@alexatpos, Outstanding music! You’ve posted something I can surely sink my teeth into! Thanks!
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@curiousjim, good for you. I recently sold my EVERSOLO DMP-A8 streamer, dac, preamp, so my Shanling ET3 Digital CD Transport is down right now too until I purchase another dac. I got about a thousand cd’s boxed up that I haven’t heard in years. |
@alexatpos Me too! Ditto.. Ben Webster | Coleman Hawkins | Tenor Giants | 1957 and 1959 | Full Double Album
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Joyce Moreno - Aquarius 1975 (Full Album Stream) More of Joyce to come... |
Jorge Ben - Samba Esquema Novo - 1963 Full Album @stuartk, this Jorge Ben album may be a good introduction to the music of Brasil as this album and especially the song ’Mas Que Nada!’ was a monster hit not only in Brasil but in the states too, for you to check out...And of course, everyone else here also. Jorge Ben Jor - The song Taj Mahal from the album Africa Brasil 1975 Jorge Ben changed his name to Jorge Ben Jor and in 1975 released the album Africa Brasil. At 2:23 of this song you will notice a striking resemblance to the Rod Stewart song of ’Do ya think I’m sexy’ and Jorge Ben Jor sued the ’bejeebers’ out of Rod Stewart for copyright infringement and won, big time. |
@alexatpos, I’ve been digging the Dave McKenna Quartet featuring Zoot Sims 1973 album also...Love the double bass scatting too! The Ben Webster | Coleman Hawkins | Tenor Giants | 1957 and 1959 | Full Double Album is one I own that I bought in mint condition from a buddy of mine who works at a pawn shop as he knew I am an album head and I’m going to share some of those here. |
@alexatpos, Oh ok? Thanks man! Marcos Valle - The Lost Sessions - 1967 This guy is kinda like the Stevie Wonder of Brazil, with a prolific amount of music he has put out over the years. If you may be of interest in his music, click on this Marcos Valle - Topic link and you will find almost a 1000 videos with I don't know how many of his albums are there.
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Here’s another album I got from my pawn shop buddy: Charlie Byrd | For All We Know - Love Story recorded live at Basin Street West, San Francisco - 1971 Full Double Album I was gonna post ’SONNY CLARK TRIO The 1960 Sessions w/ George Duvivier and Max Roach’ Full Double Album but that was already posted here some years ago by @orpheus10, I think? |
@stuartk, you are welcome. I know exactly how you feel about certain Brazilian music genres as it is a acquired taste. I felt the same way when I was first exposed to blues jazz, be and hard bop, Miles, Dexter Gordon, Charlie Parker and a host of others were hard core herion addicts and it was a complete shock to me as a young man trying to learn the essence of jazz. I also think you listen to and know of far more about Brazilian music than you give yourself credit. For example you know what MPB is, were others may not. After hearing Clube Da Esquina has also ruined me and that is why I have described it as an OPUS, for sure. That’s also why I’ve tried to post here what I call Brazilian jazz, made by and for Brazilians other than the more Bossa Nova and MPB influenced tunes for the same reasons you state above. Unlike others, I don’t equate Bossa Nova to Jazz. I look at them as two different music mediums. Brazil does have a very big beach culture but there are far more mediums of music in Brazil. In the states we have about 40 different types of music were as in Brazil they have about 60 different types of music. Brazil was founded about 100 years before Plymouth Rock so they’ve had much more time to develop their music culture. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard of Hermeto Pascoal. Miles Davis referred to Hermeto Pascoal as "one of the most important musicians on the planet". He also called him "the most impressive musician in the world," according to Red Bull Music Academy Daily. These accolades highlight Davis’s high regard for Pascoal’s musical talent and innovation. Maybe try and re-introduce yourself to his music. I’ve actually seen a Candomble ceremony in Salvador, Bahia Brazil and other forms of Brazilian music up close and personal, being played by some masters of their craft so I have a very different outlook than just someone listening to an lp. One thing I do know. This jazz for aficionados thread is a stunning depository of music unlike anything I’ve ever seen or heard before. I wouldn’t be surprised if this thread is Smithsonian worthy.
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@stuartk, You’ve already had a chance to check out Hermeto Pascoal here: tyray 740 posts 06-07-2023 at 08:20 pm I’d also suggest you do a search not only on his albums but check out some of his gigs with/on Miles albums too, and if you like any of them, post ’em here... Just in case anyone wants to know what Milton Nascimento album @stuartk and I are talking about it’s the Opus O Clube Da Esquina 1972 - Full Album. The whole entire album is a banger. You can tell he listened to a lot of the Beatles... |
Fantastic, very good! Hermeto Pascoal's style of music is derived from the Northeast of Brazil from the town of Lagoa da Canoa in the state of Alagoas. No, I have not heard of Jorge Strunz of Costa Rica. In fact I can't say I've had the pleasure of listening to any Costa Rican music, that I know of? You gotta remember audiogon is a site dedicated to all sorts of audio equipment usage first, not just sharing music. So everyone's rig may be much different than someone else's rig. Some here have just a turntable an integrated amplifier/stereo receiver and a set of stand alone speakers. While others may or may not have a turntable, streamer and some just use their computer as their front end as a streamer and use powered speakers for playback, stand alone or desktop. I know you mean no harm, but I notice that sometimes you use absolutes in equipment usage without regarding what others may or may not have for music playback. Also keep in mind when we use youtube we use it only as an easy tool that we have at our disposal. Including all the function buttons at the top of the audiogon page where we post our messages to each other. I agree with you about Flora's voice. She is a Brazilian Sorceress with her voice inflections which draw you in and you gotta listen to her! |
Woe! Talk about improvisation...I wonder if Hermeto Pascoal ever did a gig with Sun Ra? The Strange World Of… Hermeto Pascoal ’The Sorcerer’ ’In terms of his influence on other musicians, most notably those he worked with directly, his unwavering dedication to a life of music and the uniqueness of his artistic vision, Hermeto Pascoal is almost without peer. It would not be an injustice to either musician, to compare him to Sun Ra.’ ’The chickens’ clucking sounds remarkably like a wah-wah guitar, before the whole thing explodes into the kind of wild, sculpted cacophony usually considered the preserve of Sun Ra.’ ’The same could equally be said of the occasional comparisons to Zappa elsewhere in Pascoal’s music.’ |
Apparently, I was more familiar with Jorge Strunz than I thought. It turns out he was one of the founders of the Latin jazz band Caldera. 'Caldera combined jazz, funk and rock with a wide variety of Latin music, influenced by 1970s fusion explorers like Return to Forever and Weather Report. The four albums Caldera released did not sell (well), and the band called it quits in 1979 (though three out of their four albums have been reissued on CD and digital except for their third album Time & Chance).' Of the four albums: Caldera (1976), Sky Islands (1977), Time and Chance (1978) and Dreamer (1979), I have three in my lp collection. Here is a wiki synopsis of Caldera's biography. |
@stuartk, @mahgister and @audio-b-dog, Yeah the band Caldera didn’t get hardly any promotion by the record company Capital even though they had some monster producers such as Wayne Henderson and Larry Dunn of Earth Wind & Fire. And what little I did listen to of Neotropical Nocturnes now I see where the Flamenco style guitar playing comes from. I’m going to take some time this week and really listen to it some more. @stuartk, your Spanish is impeccable, I didn't even know you could use a translator in audiogon. Thanks for the rip Stu.
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I didn’t say you used a translator, I very simply said ’your Spanish is impeccable’. Can’t be more descriptive than that. I used the translator.
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Glad you liked her! I have always had a affinity towards MPB, even more so than Bossa Nova. I like to call it, Brazilian FM! You, correction, I can listen to it all day, especially in Brazil.