acman3, That Cables "Love is a Many Splendored Thing" was a killer! In his last years, improvises 10 minutes straight , never makes a bad move and you always know what the song is . Only the Greatest of the Great can pull that off !
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Couldn't argue with him , Except that Ken Burns has a racist thread in everything he ever did , he knows it is and always has been there in America . Couldn't expect an Franko -Asian to know that . |
Maybe he spoke French .Or his mother did . What makes me laugh is that folks think classical players don’t improv.
The SPCO home is the Ordway Hall in down-town St. Paul .Millions were spent on acoustics in what was already a very good hall. Friend told me , 50 years a middle hall guy , you could sit front row center and still get great instrumental separation .Right, right say I , he buys me a ticket and in a 1300 hall seat he was right ! Its very subtle , but in their wheelhouse , Mozart and Haydn, from 10 feet away sometimes looks like that’s all these world class players do !
First time I heard Evans , maybe 20 years ago, you could tell he was classically trained .When I hear so and so never was trained and he's great, I say your are right and think he could have been even greater .
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Bingo ! Hot off the press . 35min of lost Sonny Stitt off album"Primituvio Soul" !1964) Sounds like African music , great sound and fabulous conga work on firstpiece which is all I have time for right now . https://youtu.be/UnDFjMTLiDM |
nsp, . I heard her on a this and that recording of Newport Festival . Good to hear a diva with lower ranges .
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Man , just to hear McBride AND Blades warm up is worth a hundred-bucks !
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Put it this way , if a guy had an-ex named Laura that he yearned for( we all know that feeling) and said guy heard Sonny’s version he’d be tearing his hair out, pounding his head on a concrete wall an scratching his his eyes out .
Same guy heard Coleman he’d say" nice piano" and go make a sandwich .
Everything else aside , Stitt has the divine "it " than only a few just "get" .
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pjw. of course I was way out of line with the Coleman crack . I know every one on here is smart enough to know that and even I know Coleman is a very fine player . In English lit to do something that dumb for effect is called " literary license "
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Japan to the rescue !Found as good a Pavane as I'll ever find from a giant I had forgotten . Seiji Ozawa and the uber- wonderful winds of the Saito Kinen .
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nsp, another killer from Liz, the lady is addictive ! https://youtu.be/38mjw81spec?t=4She’s on my bucket list(almost empty)She is North America once till last of year , But Toronto is as bad as NYC .Nov 10th near Graz, 2nd biggest city in Austria , one of best towns in Europe and not touristy . Got enough Lufthansa miles -hmmmmm. 50 Euros hmmmmmm. |
Yes, a neighbor American horn player in Madison who played 30 years in SWD Radio Symphony told me Hermann Baumann helped him with that . Dohr sounds like he could play it as a solo. You have a nice looking friend,in the clip I thought she was an All-American Girl looking lady.BTW , the large and lovely inside hall they built at Tanglewood has Ozawa’s name on it . Your friend could get a job with the SPCO and its half as expensive and twice as nice here ! We have a violinist who quit the NY Phil for SPCO .
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frogman , Can’t get the Pavane out of my being , put the piece I think most like the way Ravel would of wanted it on Classical Music Afiicionados .I assume you must of played it .Richter in Moscow , 1954 during an epidemic .
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I take it not so much on Ozawa ? He is a bit slow but the winds carry it for me . I saw him 9-10 times at Tanglewood
Ravel was noted for changing his mind from time to time ..
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Frogman , please, pretty please , when and if you have time watch the 25min clip I just made on Classical Aff. titled "The Pride of My Hometown" . As a classical player I'm 99.9% sure you will enjoy it !
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Thank you for your time frogman. Digital can’t reproduce that hall , at full cry ,as the principal said , the strings have a sheen and the winds are like a mountain spring . You hear a round tymph and can hear a slight snare swish or a singer minus mike in the highest seat in the hall . I usually tell knowledgeable classical fans its a bit like the Concertgebouw because I knowif i told them it is better they won’t believe me .It has the lowest prices of any major American Orchestra ,+ 2 kids get in free, that and their outreach is what I’m most proud of and why I send then money . |
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The greatest horn player I ever heard, young, old or middle-age Is Hermann Baumann ! The first time I ever heard him live I was stunned . One of the top 5 players I have ever heard of anything. 85 and still teaching .
Do you two think the changes are to move toward what audiences hear these days, aka rock, or are just a natural progression ? In all things human the new thing is, more often than not as good as the old thing .
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Never is .
With words , without same 90% of the great Jazz standards would never be heard . Thank you , swing era .
With a special bow to French diva's .
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Sure is, everything in the world is becoming more and more less .
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Mit 88mm anti-flugzeeug kanone .Ausssichten!
Speaking of tempo .
As I try to listen to my main man , Sonny Stitt , as I do this , I hears that he will sometimes use the tempo that an infantryman would use on a long march with a heavy pack, aka a humans walk .
I guess he gets away with it as he can stream a river of honey all day long and half the night .
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I have a bad rep, even my mother said so .
Only ones that said otherwise were a few dozen ladies .Mostly in Ottawa, Halifax and Montreal .
Couple in Germany and Japan , mostly General’s trophy wives .
4 ladies here in St Paul , who have looked at the painting between my speakers of Bharms at 50 and said .Who did that painting of you ?
P.S. that is NOT a joke , latest one was a 22 year old friend who had just graduated from MN State U , magna cum laude . I am not making it up ! Took her about 3 seconds to say it .Her little 10 year brother said so as well .
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Well , Getz is good but the Bosendorfer is great ! lol
Re: Becker , every one who ever lived stands on the shoulders of others , some a bit taller than others. but still standing .
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https://youtu.be/yR0nNf5NyKk?t=3Couldn’t find Stitt and Evans , did find Sonny with Bud Powell and JJ at their peak . To my ears they play together better and with more soul . But , just old ears of only a listener on much harder stuff . |
Yes , I did , how in the hell she can play like that with her eyes closed God only knows . Incredible is the word all right . frogman , the "New Yorker" is the best jazz album I ever heard . All 4 hit the right tone , rhythm , and style for each and every song to perfection . Talk about "something to say" , they wrote a book!
Don’t tell me how Stitt makes a tone within a tone , one sunny and one cloudy, I want to write it down as a miracle .
Hope my main man in Berlin can get me it in vinyl .
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pjw, your account of the pilgrimage was very moving .Thank you ! The only one I ever made was to Schubert’s grave in the Central Cemetery in Vienna , doubled when I saw Brahms lay next to him and Mahler few meters around the corner .
As my wife and I were standing there in prayer, two Japanese couples showed up . The two men had huge amounts of flowers on in their arms which they put on, with heads bowed, on Schubert’s grave . . Then after five minutes or so, one of the men prostated himself on Schubert’s grave and cried like a baby .Unique day!
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mary jo. UN keeps rating Wien as most livable city in the world , I know you model's are very busy but what do you think?
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True alex but there is no CITY in Italy as clean and safe as Vienna .And people are friendly as well. Though Berlin is my love , I wouldn’t argue with UN on this one .
81563 , I wouldn’t be that hard on rok, I don’t know if he went to West Point ,but even if he did not , he has that outlook . It’s very hard to get away from the indoctrination given to create a warrior mind .
I don’t know if I could have if I had not graduated from university after a war instead of before it . And Vietnam was so stupid nobody with any intelligence could buy it .
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Frogman , similar to a professional infantryman , 3 days of no running and other PT and the edge is gone .
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I make NO assumptions about your points., I wasn’t even thinking of you when I wrote .
My point is they are irrelevant , as are mine, in a Republic structured like the USA . I agree this is not a place to talk about it . As I said , scientific study after study shows the odds of any adult with deep,convictions is highly unlikely to change then .
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That is true 0-10. but on here we are just a hand full of people enjoying jazz. The odds of anybody changing their mind about politics is zero.This is a Republic, in no sense of the word, a democracy . Every one who wants to know what you say already knows what you say and those who don't never will .
In a country where the Supreme Court ruled a corporation is a person with all the rights of any person , unique to the world , and their lobbyists write most acts of Congress there will be no change ever . Your fighting the good fight and I admire you for that . But I'd rather see you back off the stress which can shorten your days . God Bless you .
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My bad frogman, I should of said something taking you out of the picture writing below your comments . I just had everyone in general and 0-10 in particular in mind .
rok, to a considerable degree we can change History . Trauma roles down,even heavily in DNA , from generation to generation and they are known ways to change that by treating young children , Very little IS done because it is expensive and not wanted by powers that be in a divide and conquer society. Most of the work has been done , including clinical , at Cambridge , Stanford and John Hopkins . In historical time , "jim crow" was born the day before yesterday and the civil war an hour before that .And slavery IS more traumatic than combat . Nobody sold a soldiers dad, mom , wife and kids down the river ,to be never be seen again , in any American war .
.What is your take on deserting the Kurds who did much of the heavy lifting against ISIS ?
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Outed on what? Is you real name kenji suzuki ?
I’ve listened to the Brit Guru a few times , worthwhile .
There are a bunch of excellent musicians in the military bands just because they always have a gig and three hots and a cot .Those Master Chiefs on that great Navy Band. I put on and nobody looked at, make about 7,000 bucks a month. With health plan for him and his , with other little and that's , 10, 000 $$ .
George Mason U near DC has built a thriving Music School hiring them as they retire . Good military Pension , health care and another good paying job, you could do worse , a lot worse ..
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rok , my spy’s tell me the Army is thinking of closing its Siberian base in Upstate NY , Ft Drum, home of the 10th Mountain Div .
Reason ; The rate of Lyme Disease is so high more guys end up in the hospital than did in Afganistand .Training is almost impossible , on base or off !
Is there Lyme disease at Hood ?
Folks who grew up in abject poverty often can’t handle money for emotional reasons . I wince when I see a newly drafted athlete buy his mama a 800 , 000 house , knowing if I was he , so would I .
And I’m noted for taking care of cash . Crucial word is ABJECT . Very different than poor .
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acman , thanks for getting the one I realized I should have got .
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Not so much . It seems natural for you both to think at different levels . Which is neither better or worse , just different . As the man said , it takes all kinds .
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That’s true mary jo.,Humans who have suffered a lot tend to inflict on others what they have gone through to give some meaning to their suffering . In Germany a few years ago a law that medical interns can not work over12 hours a day or 60 hours a week was passed .Why? Because they were making too many mistakes to include death . German Doc’s were bitter over that and most wanted interns to work the 24 hours shifts they had to. You could 20x that in Liberia !
If mankind was not basically peaceful we would all be dead by age 20 .
rok, what I would do is make curing ,as much as we can ,now seems about 60% , of traumatic suffering children THE # 1 job of the nation no matter what . FYI, the initial studies (21,000) were largely white middle class .
As a soldier you know Napoleon said a lot of things , some were even true .
My favorite is "There are no bad soldiers , just bad Generals" . Apt for many things in society . Your answer on the Krurds was brilliant and worthy of a great Staff S-3 !I say brilliant because that is EXACTLY what my old E-8 brain thought as well . Leaves bad taste in my mouth .The one thing I am most proud of was I led from the front and never left anybody behind .
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Right on , rok . If it costs 500 billion a year the nation has to break the circle . If we could spend a trillion on the F-35 we can find half that for our childrento fight our real worst enemy ..
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I would . I grew up in a house where the Syracuse Scottish , a band of 16 pipers and 6 drummers practiced twice a week in a small room and I sat there and eat it up . My two uncles who started the band, hauled me all over eastern Canada on the Highland Games route , at times a thousand pipers and drummers on the field.
P.S I shot my first deer at 12 , alone .About 30 after .Would try one more time but Lymein MN is BRUTAL . More dangerous than C19 really . You know, naming a base for some foreign Gen. who helped us in time of trouble is not a bad idea ,Fort Stuben, Lafayette ? Fort Kosciuszko gets my vote , might need his folks soon .
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You’re have a point , rok .. But , the worse thing I ever heard in serious music was the day Dizzy passed . On late show Branford Marsalis and band sat there with stoic face when idiot whoever ran the show brought out Kenny G to honor Dizzy with a horrible five minutes , even worse than usual .
Yah , I read about the 3500 . Seemed to be logistic troops which make sense, but i’d like to see top Infantry Bn to watch over them . 173’rd never lost a fight .
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I simply love this version of my favorite standard . Nothing wrong with just plain pretty . To my hears Galliano is a great artist . https://youtu.be/9hjMisX997Y |
You always do ac . This old girl may have a few miles on her , but her engine is hitting on all cylinders !Boys in the band have good tires too . https://youtu.be/OOtUIMrJUyc?t=6 |
rok ,Riue is not a showman , he is a MASTER showman ! Singers were way off .
The MacArthur of music .
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To start with , the boys in Vienna would be surprised to know their mighty Bosendorfer’s have a German sound . Also it is a well known fact(by me) that God , the creator of music, has a special hour every day of the week during which great composers born in Austria or who spent most of their career there , to the mighty B factory fly, to infuse their soul into the present products before they leave the factory. Boys take turns and all , but normal seven are Beethoven, Bruckner, Haydn,Korngold ,Mahler , Schubert and Mozart. Back up is Brahms . P.S . yes indeed, that little opening is both lovely and very apt to the piece .
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