Jazz for aficionados
This Pandit Dr. Lakshminarayana Subramaniam is one amazing violinist and composer. Billy Cobham has a look on his face like man this dude can play! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrU587-C50 Jean Luc Ponty & Lakshminarayana Subramaniam make for one helluva duo! |
After 2 days I thought someone may have posted who the keyboard player is with Al Di Meola live at Leverkusen. His name is Mario Parmisano. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjI9JUeqBMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju-xEAWUkNw |
With the passing of Roy Hargrove its great to know there still stands among us some great jazz trumpeters like Christian Scott (3rd link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTR_KfCeZhI&list=TLPQMjQxMDIwMTmm-E4mNWmUFg&index=2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhlqU5M19O0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SxzS4mtH9o |
Khatia Buniatishvili is one great classical pianist!!! Man I thought those things were gonna pop out!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb_TLU_M7PE |
frogman, re Maynard Ferguson. The first 2 links I enjoyed the music. "Jam Session" was released in 1955 and "Maynard 61" was released in 61 (obviously). The Kenton Big Band link is from a 1950 release "Stan Kenton Presents" and yes the high pitched trumpet playing by Maynard on that is quite annoying. The only inaccuracy I see is that you stated Ferguson started playing continuously in those high registers while blowing out his lungs through the trumpet was something he did later in his career. This is not true as the session dates above attest to. It seems to me that Maynard played that way when it was called for in the composition. Although he could have toned it down just a little :) Its funny that right after listening to that annoying song from "Stan Kenton Presents" this beautiful song followed it automatically on You Tube and is the extreme opposite playing from the trumpet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Np8PJDGq_A |
Kenny Wheeler is much more to my liking then Maynard Fergusen. Wheeler recorded quite a few albums on the ECM label which were brilliant. He was always accompanied by the great bassist and composer Dave Holland on those ECM sessions. John Abercrombie was present on some of them as well. All fantastic musicians. Here is Wheeler live with Palle Danielsson on bass instead of Holland but Abercrombie is present. Pretty good rythm section the drummer has a nice solo starting at the 10:40 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU27KZiNOJU Here are a few of his ECM studio albums which I have and the sonics are excellent which is the norm from ECM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p096UTjQgeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y5RMfMbntk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCDBFl6Yc2c |
More Kenny Wheeler. He had great command of his instrument and also very lyrical as these songs will attest to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbP709Cn4mE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zo6IbnrwJw And live 3 years before his death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOEjmBNddjY From Wiki: Kenneth Vincent John Wheeler, (14 January 1930 – 18 September 2014) was a Canadian composer and trumpet and flugelhorn player, based in the U.K. from the 1950s onwards. Most of his performances were rooted in jazz, but he was also active in free improvisation and occasionally contributed to rock music recordings. Wheeler wrote over one hundred compositions and was a skilled arranger for small groups and large ensembles. |
"Here's one of the places where I go when I wander off the jazz reservation" orpheus10 if that's the case what are your thoughts on Fela Kuti? Here is one I really like which has captions describing the music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_D-Hh0hglk Its a long song but believe me the journey is worth it. |
Back to jazz in keeping with the thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM2YKTmGHBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAHE8LIbyzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x6Vq2OsdFM |
The thing is I can listen to Fela and then listen to this next: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZBlqcbpmxY And then this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpKB6OZ_B4c I too leave the "jazz reservation" on occasion. |
orpheus10, I like Kenny Wheeler. Not all of his output/songs but most. The Albums I purchased I like. And I do give them repeated listens. To me many of his songs are "rooted in emotion". The majority of his repertoire is not rooted in "the blues" like "old school jazz" but that’s what I like about it. As I have stated multiple times on this thread my favorite Trumpet player is Clifford brown followed by Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw, and Lee Morgan and not necessarily in that order. I am sure you like these 4 players because their playing, for the most part, is rooted in the emotion of "old school" jazz. My musical tastes vary as I like many genres (except country and hip hop) and they also vary within their respective genres. If your musical tastes are basically jazz music from the swing to bebop to hard bop period of 1930 - 1970 (I am aware of this because you have repeated many times on this thread when you bought the "new stuff" when it came out you wasted your money and realized your old stuff was way better) and current renditions of the 30 - 70 "golden era of jazz" compositions its cool and I know where your coming from. Miles Davis’ output from "In A Silent Way" and forward was not rooted in the emotion of "old school" jazz but I like it. There is plenty of "emotion and blues" in the following Wheeler song for my ears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHejwS-Cgcs I guess I’m basically saying everyone has different tastes and its all good. |
Great Fela Kuti live performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8oRpA2SpE For the Fela uninitiated: https://www.allmusic.com/artist/fela-kuti-mn0000138833/biography |
orpheus10, I have 2 of Jacintha's albums I bought at the same time around 10 years ago after hearing her voice, which I agree, is beautiful. They are "Lush Life" which contains the song from you first link. Your following 2 links were great selections which showcase her abilities as a jazz vocalist. I also have "The Girl From Bossa Nova" in which she sings beautiful renditions of Bossa Nova classics. Here is one from the Bossa Nova album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWl22wlGR9U Lat night I listened to Ben Webster's album from 1959 titled "The Soul of Ben Webster" - one of my favorites in my Webster collection. It is definitely "old school jazz rooted in the blues" Here is the longest song on the album and a classic which as you would say bears repeated listening's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj--aO61TN8 |
frogman, Great post especially this part: "One of the great things about art, in this case music, is that while it is true that sometimes the artist is very specific about the meaning, the listener is more times than not free to attach his own personal significance to the music or lyrics. There is no point in arguing about it. There is no right or wrong." alex, Your observation about the vocal version and instrumental version of the same song and its affect on your guests is correct unless your guests are true jazz fans. I have seen the same reaction with my guests. pryso, Great hair styles on those girls in your second link. Ahh the 80's.... |
frogman, The vocal rendition to Body And Soul by the Manhattan Transfer was not to my liking. As a matter of fact, the first thing that came to my mind when I listened was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTq6Tofmo7E |
Mark Murphy's rendition of "Stolen Moments" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvTPeAYfuA Terry Kath, the great guitarist from the band Chicago (one of my favorites) and vocalist on many of their songs, has a similar tone. When I heard Murphy the first time I immediately thought of Kath. The great Terry Kath on guitar on lead vocals. The piano intro ends at about a minute in and he starts singing (for all you jazz fans not familiar with the song). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UOP6l82vU0 Chicago has always been one of my favorite bands of any genre all time. First "big band" rock group using a brass section to break into the pop charts regularly but at the same time not "sell out" and still play great innovative music that you cant really "categorize" Terry Kath's vocals engineered in a studio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWkXmx-0phc |
pryso, Great link to the xmass tune. Chicago, IMHO, was way ahead of the "simpleton" rock bands of the 70's. After Terry Kath's death they did "sell out" a little with the top ten FM tunes sung by Peter Cetera. especially in the 80's. But man they sure did compose and play some awesome tunes and put out some awesome albums in the 70's. |
I have been listening to my Kenny Wheeler collection a lot lately. Especially his ECM sessions. Great music. Great engineering at the ECM studio = great sonics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p096UTjQgeI&t=87s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCDBFl6Yc2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXkyRh3Ufpc |
Wow! been searching around You Tube all morning and just found this gem with Charlie Parker and Lester Young playing a beautiful rendition of Embraceable You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9cZF2dOZPM And the best part is I found the CD of the complete session for a great price here: https://www.discogs.com/Charlie-Parker-Jazz-At-The-Philharmonic-1949/release/1651575 |
acman, I have listened to JC's "Out Of Nowhere" the "full album" at least a hundred times. I own all of his recordings and that's one of my favorites. I'm partial to Gene Ammons' version of "Angel Eyes" but Sonny Stitt's rendition is excellent as well. Yesterday I watched the Showtime documentary on the tragic life of Heavyweight Champion Sonny Liston. After his 2nd controversial loss to Muhamad Ali he was dealing heroin in the seedy suburbs surrounding the Las Vegas strip.His supplier was the jazz trumpeter Red Rodney (among others). Red Rodney was, unlike Liston, a user of heroin as well as a dealer. Red did a few prison stints for dealing and using. Red Rodney, IMHO, is very underrated. He was a part of Charlie Parkers band at numerous times between 1945 - 54. Here is Red Rodney in Lee Konitz' band for the "Live At Laren" recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJxidEKin0o Red Rodney on Charlie Parker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z58VJmAMxA Red Rodney with Dexter Gordon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qlYsxkpcN0 I'm sure most of the members here have seen the famous photo of Charlie Parker and Red Rodney sitting in a booth - The skinny red headed kid and his idol https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=0C0C4550103AA1ACE4C7879A7923ECB1D29D9B77&... |
alec Wile E Coyote is not supposed to catch the Roadrunner. But we all always felt sorry for Wile E. Even the laws of physics are on the side of Roadrunner. Don't skip part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP2piN-03k |
rok I have Hancock's Gershwin's World (Verve label) and his other 2 albums on the Verve label 1998 -2007 which are "Directions In Music - Live at Massy Hall" (2003) and "River - The Joanie Letters" (2007). All 3 are good albums but my favorite of the 3 is "Live at Massy Hall" which features Michael Brecker, Roy Hargrove, John Patitucci, and Brian Blade. I did, however, go to the "Joanie Letters" tour date at Carnegie Hall in 2008 which featured Chris Potter on sax (replacing Wayne Shorter who played on the studio recording), Lionel Loueke on guitar, Dave Holland on bass, and Vinny Colaiuta drums. There were guest vocalists as well. Directions in Music Live at Massy Hall full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb9z8LCNvHo&list=OLAK5uy_mXLcaZniSyJSzhdHDex6wAx0xeDsPMxuc |
The Charlie Parker JATP 1949 disc was in the mail box when I got home yesterday. This is the one with Parker and Lester Young playing together. I listened to it last night and every song is good. The personnel: Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Flip Phillips, Roy Eldridge, Buddy Rich, Ray Brown, Tommy Turk, Hank Jones, and Ella Fitzgerald. The tunes: The Opener 12:47, Lester Leaps In 12:14, Embraceable You 10:33, The Closer 10:57, Ow! (introduction of Ella Fitzgerald) .48, Flying Home 5:31, How High The Moon 6:34, Perdido 8:34. Total playing time is 67:48 I bought the disc on Discogs for $8.00 including shipping. One of the best disc purchases pricewise and musical wise I ever made! Embraceable You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9cZF2dOZPM How High The Moon (featuring Ela Fitzgerald) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_3zFVg-S8w |
Schubert, I listened to General Butler's commentary in full yesterday and my question on if he was a jazz aficionado was an attempt at putting some joy on an otherwise very real and apocalyptic subject. The subject has been talked about ad nauseum from 1946 onwards by thousands of important men and women in military and political spheres. Butlers short commentary regarding his thoughts on the subject was short and correct on all points and his last say was certainly sobering to say the least. I am sure you are aware that after the destruction of Nazi Germany we invited many of their top generals to the U.S.A. to hear their perspectives on the war they just lost and on future world conflicts. We greatly admired their doctrine of combined arms war of maneuver using an armored fist supported by airpower at the "Schwerpunkt" and a term called "Auftragstaktiks"(giving more authority to lower ranking officers to exploit advantageous situations in real time as they presented themselves on the battlefield without going through a long chain of command) which the German command structure was way ahead of anyone at the time. They lost because they were arrogant and bit off more then they could chew. The reason we were so interested in debriefing them was because the military here, even though victorious, knew that it took 3 world powers and a lopsided amount of endless war resources to defeat them and so were interested in their conventional warfare tactical and operational doctrines. So even in the period 1946 - 1955, as we were developing and testing nuclear weapons, we were already thinking that nuclear weapons were not the solution and were interested in advancing our conventional war doctrines. The only one who thought otherwise at the time was General Douglas MacArthur. General Norman Schwarzkopf read many German Panzer Commanders books (memoirs) before the Kuwait war and followed their doctrines. |
frogman, In regards to my new Charlie Parker and co. JATP 1949 disc I agree it has already become one of my favorites and will get plenty of listens here. Did you really pick up by listening that Parker's reed was faulty? Your quote "history lesson" was that about the jazz or my summary of the debriefing of German officers post WWII? |
Schubert, this video: “Language, Creativity, and the Limits of Understanding” by Professor Noam Chomsky " Is 1:26 minutes long. When I have more time I will watch it. What did you think of my short summary of the post WWII debriefing on the German officers of the Wehrmacht? I posted it only in response to your quote and posting of General Butler’s commentary on this important topic. I would like to hear your perspective on what I posted since you are obviously a well educated man. |
"No, but he was the Greatest General this country has produced". No he was not. What he was, however, was overrated. "Recommended for the Medal of Honor twice." And never was honored with one. "Was a general in the First World War Was Army Chief of Staff before world war 2 retired and ran the military of the Philippines. Recalled after Pearl Harbor Wrote the Japanese Constitution which is still in effect." What does the above 5 statements have to do with being a good general? "Defeated the North Koreans in the Korean war with a master stroke at Inchon" The Inchon landings took place in September 1950. The Korean War did not end until July 1953 and when the war ended MacArthur had already been fired by President Truman. The landings were made behind the enemies front therefore cutting off his logistical means. That is not a "master stroke" it is what any General in charge would have done. And MacArthur himself did not come to this decision. It was a "team" decision with the army chiefs including Bradley and the joint chiefs of staffs. When your hero was still in command however, he ordered his forces to head north all the way to the Yalu River using faulty intelligence from his puppet G2, General Charles Willoughby, who had his nose up MacArthur’s ass since becoming his G2 in 1939. This "drive to the Yalu" was a total failure and disaster and if not for General OP Smith ignoring the orders coming down from MacArthur through another one of his ass kissers General Edward Almond many more American Marines and G,I.’s would have been sacrificed. MacArthur’s command of the Philippines prior to Pearl Harbor and the Japanese invasion of the Philippines while MacArthur was still in command is often considered the worst military defeat in United States history. Later when MacArthur "returned" to the Philippines He pushed for an amphibious landing on the Island of Peleliu - One of the costliest operations of the war in the Pacific,the Battle of Peleliu saw Allied forces sustain 2,336 killed and 8,450 wounded/missing. The 1,749 casualties sustained by Puller’s 1st Marines nearly equaled the entire division’s losses for the earlier Battle of Guadalcanal. MacArthur’s reasons for this invasion were ridiculous and unnecessary. He stated that his forces that were to re - take the Philippines could not be successful unless the Japanese airbase on Peleliu was destroyed and the Japanese could not send fighter planes from Peleliu to the Philippines. Peleliu was 600 miles east of the Philippines!! The Japanese Mitsubishi fighter planes were incapable of such a long flight unless outfitted with an extra fuel tank (drop tank) which the Japanese did not have. rok if you have the time read this: https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/08/10/unnecessary-hell-the-battle-of-peleliu/ The real hero and savior of thousands of lives at the Chosin Reservoir was General OP Smith. rok if you have the time watch this: How OP Smith saved 15,000 Marines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rf-KpVgus8&t=2732s |
The following 3 tunes are for orpheus10 old school jazz and its awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdG4um12wM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUhGYZWjIdw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVzYHMyfAwY |
mary_jo I liked roks link to the Harris and Kellaway rendition of Senor Blues as well. Horace Silver composed that tune and here is his version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jFGFwOm7k |
