Battle goes to church. forgot to post the link! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIAEKQ7GmY
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Learsfool:
Wow!! You are in a tough arena!! You answered the question I asked and all the ones that arose from that answer. very thorough! left me question-less!
I suspected it was as you said. A person has to be really dedicated and be able to earn a living until, say, the guy on third trumpet keels over.
Comparing it to acting is very accurate. Thanks for your time and sharing your expertise with us all.
Can't wait to read how one becomes a conductor. I will find it facinating that one system could accomodate such a wide variety of personalities. With folks like Bernstein and Karajan on the loose, How did a guy like Bohm get a job. :)
Thanks again
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Well, to sum up: We have our OP dumping Bop for some guy named Neil Larsen, and having no problem with the Dixie Chicks headlining a Nawlins 'Jazz' fest, and The Frogman is Jamming with Tiny Tim! Ain't progress grand!!!
And you folks wonder why I am so paranoid when it comes to Jazz!!
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*****Here's "New York Sketchbook" from that album.*****
I like it. Sounded like NY to me. Which is amazing, considering I've never been there, save JFK. Maybe the Gershwin effect, An American in NY? :) But once you know it's by Mingus, you know there is something there, and the playing will always be of the highest order. All the listener has to do is pay attention.
I don't have that Album or that tune. I thought I had EVERYTHING by Mingus.
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Learsfool:
The plight of assistant Conductors and the newly hired conductors seems similar to Backup Quarterbacks in the NFL, and New 2nd Lieutenants in charge of a platoon of Infantry. Tough Jobs!
I will get the book. Checked it out on Amazon. I love stuff like that. Perhaps it will show, that I am correct, in thinking that Rattle got the Berlin position, because of his hairdo! :)
Again, thanks for your time in doing this. Very thorough as always.
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Not bad! Beautiful music and part of the theme music of a brilliant movie by the same name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLAO5Z6T-rg
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better!! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikutCJd13cM
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My favorite 'Bolero'. Have many, but always play this one. Talk about building to a climax!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdEGfmnIv0
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**** you see Rok, we CAN agree****
Now Frogman, when have we ever disagreed?
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**** What are your favorite tunes by Dinah Washington?***
As of this minute, Stardust is!!! Wow, that was really a compelling rendition. I don't recall hearing her singing such 'sophisticated' arrangements before. I always had her pegged as an down-home R&B singer. 'Invitation' was good, 'Stardust' was on a differnt level. You could hear her.
You are good at finding gems that are hidden in plain sight! Thanks for the clips.
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I was trying to find a decent performance of two of my all time favorites, 'Brazil' and "Begin the Beguin', with no success. But I did run across my main man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovPmv5H8jdU
Cugat could learn from this guy!
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I was about to ask Learsfool to explain what he meant about the situation in Minnesota, but I read an article today, in the Nov 2013 issue of Gramophone that explains it all. Check it out. Also mentions the New York City Opera, the'Peoples Opera', in NYC, going into bankruptcy.
Rough time for the arts.
For all Time Warner Cable customers: Ovation will air the 'Battle of the Nutcrackers' starting on Monday, 13 Jan 2014. Late, due to the 'troubles'.
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The Frogman:
My current Gramophone magazine also says that Levine is now confined to a wheelchair. Any impact on his ability to conduct, from a player's point of view?
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Acman3:
This is Real Fusion! Notice how easily Blues and Gospel can be FUSED with Jazz. Esp with a Master doing the arrangements.
The solos on 'Layla', wow! And the Trumpet and Clarinet playing on 'Just a closer walk with thee', if you aren't screaming, there is something wrong somewhere.
O-10: That's Ali Jackson on drums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1koHhFv9IS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91pY1L9meQ
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The Frogman:
The charlie rose interview is the most informative and interesting I have ever seen. Great stuff! Thanks.
The second clip was basically the Rose interview again, BUT, the short clip of the rehearsal with the singers, was priceless!!
Same with the short clip of the LvB 5th rehearsal. I would rather see the rehearsal than to see the actual performance. Crazy but true.
He mentioned doing 'Flastaff". I have that on LP box set, Vienna / Karajan. One of the most beautiful and captivating LP cover photos ever! Since Levine spoke so highly of it, I will have to get it on DVD now.
He was very open and honest about the help he received along the way. And to have the career he has had, while in constant pain for a large period of that time, just adds to his greatest.
I found his comments about singers, esp females, looking the part, to be very interesting. And sadly true. It never hurts to be beautiful.
Thanks for a really interesting post.
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begin the Beguine:
you can wiki it and get the facts / history. Cole Porter etc.......
A long time ago we talked about 'influences'. This is an example of latin influence. The lyrics are surely latin in style and content. :) After all, it took place on an island.
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****she had a deep longing for something that could never be, her 8 marriages might be an indication of that.*****
hahahahahha you are the master of understatement!
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Today's listen:
Charles Mingus -- MINGUS AT THE BOHEMIA
Some of the most unique compositions ever, AND, they are explained in the liner notes, written by Mal Waldron, who also plays piano on the set.
On this set Mingus plays two songs at once. He does this twice. First on 'septemberly' and The second time on 'all the things you C-sharp' he even includes a little 'clair de lune'.
The music is up to Mingus' usual high standards. But the liner notes, written by one of the players, are priceless! Sort of like taking a language class. They say something in the language you are trying to master(the music), and then you read the translation in your native tongue(the liner notes).
I think these guys(any Mingus group), rehearse a lot!
Great stuff!
This morning's first performance in the 'Battle of the Nutcrackers' on Ovation, was a disappointment. Too 'modern'. The costumes were a distraction and added nothing to the ballet. Maybe tomorrow's performance will be better.
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O-10:
I have seen Monk dance WHILE playing the piano! :)
I guess we can never own everything, but Mingus is one of those pl;ayers that makes you think you are missing something if you don't own everything he has done.
BTW, how do/did you decide which CD / LPs to buy? When it comes to music reviews, I really miss Stereo Review. Their reviews have stood the test of time.
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Sign of the Times!
They forgot to invite the Dixie Chicks and the Berlin philharmonic and a few Divas from the MET. This would be a great venue to perform 'LULU'. And what about our Bluegrass friends?
And once all these folks were on board, and there was still room, hell, then they might as well consider a few Jazz players!!
Can the End be far off!!!
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/clapton-springsteen-and-santana-top-2014-jazz-fest-lineup-20140114
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O-10:
The Bush symphony was interesting. I call this 'video' music. It has no connection to the people in the images. It's designed to make the common seem sublime.
Same for the other piece. When I hear this type stuff, I think, Made up. Based on nothing. Requires a little weed to make a person think they appreciate it.
I will listen to 'Pithecanthropus Erectus' today to get refreshed. Report later.
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The Frogman: I understand your comments, but a person has to be able to know it when they hear it. Think about it.
I think this clip could meet your definition.
BTW, I love this stuff. I have the CD and the DVD. Highly recommended! Recorded at Fisk University in Nashville. Is it Jazz?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRi6yhqmuxU
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I can't help it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLCuhwHuEvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UDEkqCPE4
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Music Lovers:
A Great song! All you folks from down home will surely appreciate it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPGDBZdXuk
We don't need no stinking philharmonic!! Some proper acoustics maybe. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTd3ZsvqDiQ
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I found the herbie hancock music lacking in dynamic range. Sounded 'muffled'. I think they are better examples of the this type music. Too long also. It has to have that dynamic contrast.
Just one member of the unwashed masses opinion. :)
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You cannot state 'your' definition of Jazz, and then have a discussion with others, using 'your' definition as a given fact. What you found lacking in the bluegrass piece, even by 'your' definition, was a matter of degree, judgement or opinion.
The Herbie Hancock piece was not 'muffled' due to the quality of the recording. The music was muffled because it had no dynamic range. The difference between the highest and lowest notes. Booker T and the MG's come to mind. Maybe Herbie Mann? That type stuff. Memphis Soul. Not James Brown as you mentioned.
The music landscape is littered with musicians who possessed the following attitudes: 'understanding' their music or 'getting it' was solely the job and responsibilty of the listener. "take it or leave it". "You don't understand what I'm saying? Well that is just a reflection of your lack of musical understanding" etc......
I would name them, but they are unknown.:)
Bet you can find them on every street corner in NYC. If the artist does not connect with the audience, HE/SHE has a problem! Just a variation of 'the customer is always right'!
Whenever I see the name of a so-called genre with a hypen, I always ask, why is that needed?
Other than these small and insignificate differences, we are in total agreement.
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O-10:
Pithecanthropus Erectus: With a title like that, and coming from our OP, I thought it best to define terms!:) Walking upright. Got it!
For those of you that want to listen to modern, progressive and cutting edge Jazz, you need go no further than Mingus. He can go to the far reaches, and NEVER LEAVE JAZZ. To me, that is his greatest. No hypen needed or required.
The liner notes on this CD are great. Again the music and it's intentions are explained by Mingus himself. Nat Hentoff gives his thoughts also, but who better than Mingus himself to expalin his music.
The title track is my favorite. There is something about it that rises above the usual Jazz tune. I wish I had the words to explain it, but I am glad I have the ears to hear it.
I recall the CD 'Art Pepper meets the Rhythm section'. A great set. Pepper playing with the Miles Davis rhythm section. They never rehearsed! Met for the first time the day they cut the record. You just know that would not and could not, ever happen with a Mingus set. He demanded more than just blowing, and he got more.
I remember when I was in college, a friend, who introduced me to Mingus' music, made a comment about the strict and high standards he set for his players. How true. That is the hallmark of his records, Playing at the highest level. No blowing sessions.
Calling him a Jazz player, is like calling Einstein a Physicist. It's true, but totally inadequate.
O-10 thanks for reminding us.
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The Frogman:
Chick Corea -- LIGHT AS A FEATHER
The album from which your clip of 'Spain' was taken.
Corea is a lot of things, but noise maker is not one of them. We are in agreement already. And I hope we can agree that the singer should be banned from ever recording again.
'Spain' is for sure the best track on the CD. I just don't get the need for the electronic stuff. It takes some getting used to, and I don't see the improvement or advantage over the acoustic stuff. Farrell was a welcomed presence.
Visualize for a moment: All the well known great piano players in the history of Jazz. Now, visualze them sitting in front of some electonic thing with several keyboards in front of them. The Duke? Bud Powell?
Now visualize all the great Bass players. Now try to see them with a bass guitar around their necks! Mingus? Really!
The very thought of such a thing is absurd!
But Corea is a great musician. After all, I bought this one, and several more.
The main problem with electronic instruments is that you can get close and actually cross the line between music and 'sound effects'. Note the 'wah-wah' at the end of 'Spain', and in the title track also.
Good album. Would have been better with Steinway and upright acoustic bass.
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Great clip. Reminded of my days in the Fatherland, back in the 70's. I thought I was back in the Mexicana Bar in Frankfurt. :) Those were the days!
Some more hip bass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkcHSgfDdkI
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Today being saturday, I thought I would give Bop and Classical a rest and stroll down memory lane. A little Motown and oldies but goodies.
Happened across this: Quincy Jones -- BACK ON THE BLOCK
I remembered it had a good rap tune with Ice-T.(a masterpiece, by rap standards) And also a version of Birdland, which I liked.
While listening I looked thru the booklet for the first time. I was stunned! Here are some of the people ivolved in this thing:
Ella, Ray Charles, Miles, Dizzy, Sarah, Mcferrin, George Benson and god knows who else. Amazing! Outrage!!
They even included recorded voice of Lester Young! Damn! Even the dead aren't safe from these people.
But, the reason I am posting is to show what I think is the danger of electronic instruments in Music and esp Jazz.
The players are credited with the usual things, vocals, sax, trumpet etc.... here are a few new, to me, ones:
synthesizer programming kick and snare drum sounds keyboards (no more piano) synthesizer arrangement rhythm arrangement herbie hancock, synthesizer pads and M1 pads synthesizer strings arranged and composed by... M1 programming
WTF??? Mount up regulators!! Ride to the sound of the 'drum sounds'!
It's called a slippery slope.
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I think it's a good CD. Had to be, it's Quincy! |
You know you love it.
At 2:44 she leaves Carnegie Hall and goes to church. Watch her hands and head movement.
I love this woman!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIAEKQ7GmY
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O-10:
Is that Nica's Bentley on the WAR album cover?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncznvkB7S8
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The Herbie Hancock music reminded me of this, And I LOVE this! Got me thru ther 70's. Along with EW&F. This is better than the Hancock piece. Of course Hancock is more than just one clip. Hell, I have him playing Handel!
Back in the day, When I cranked up the WAR piece on my JBL L-150s WOW!
Music is not about Perfection!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJa6rKgy3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfa-n_zYSo
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****but did I hear those solo's a hundred times before?****
Only if you have seen the clip a hundred times before. He is the Alpha and Omega of Jazz today. And can play, at the highest level, in ANY genre. Don't like it? Too Bad.
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When I went to the clips of Marsalis and Clapton, off to the side I saw these:
Wynton playing in dubai, an islamic country. A line of children waiting to talk and get pointers on playing / music from him. He was showing a girl how to place the mouthpiece and explaining the embouchure
Wynton driving a crowd crazy in Chile
Wynto playing, with Marcus Roberts, for little children for a kids tv show
Wynton playing baroque music
Wynton on the Charlie Rose show speaking to the country on Jazz
Wynton at Lincoln Center, leading the best, and most important Jazz Band on the planet.
He could be considered the Ellington of this era.
How dare you people criticize him, while you praise freakish looking wannabes, making obnoxious, non-sensical noises.
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Acman3:
Well if you and The Frogman and O-10 and Learsfool are kindred spirits, it would be more appropiate for me to go. I admit to having a mental block when it comes to Free, Avant-garde and Fusion music. So being the disruptive force, and I admit to that, you stay. You have more to offer this thread than I do.
Apologies to our OP.
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*****Speaking of jazz, Rok and Frogman, why have there suddenly been no new posts on that thread?*****
I have been busy entering music into my database and trying to find room for CDs in my racks. It's been a while, and they were backing up. Also catching up on my listening. As our OP once said, listening to Jazz is a lot more enjoyable than talking about it. He was right.
The other "aficionados" are probably somewhere pouting and sulking and walking around with their mouths stuck out.
My most recent purchases:
'The Great Jazz Piano of Phineas Newborn Jr' 'The Best of Max Roach and Clifford Brown' 'Clifford Brown and Max Roach: Vme Series'
To what have you been listening?
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**** I would respectfully suggest that an apology is in order.****
I Agree!
Acman3: I apologize for any comment I made they you felt was out of place or insulting in any way. It was not my intent.
I will have to use more of these :) :) in my rants to try to convey tone / intent. The statement that started with HOW DARE, was directed at the entire thread. I said 'you people' I should have added a, :).
The solos on Layla and the hundred times thingy, I assumed you were talking about Wynton, because I thought we were talking about the Jazz player. I cannot comment on Clapton's solo because I don't own any music by him except the thing with Marsalis. So it could well be old hat, to everyone else. BTW, I did like Clapton's playing.
I agree with The Frogman, yes it does happen, that you make excellent contributions to this thread. Much more informative and thoughtful than mine. You should post more often. That could be because you engage your brain before you type. I tend to skip that step.
I am not a bully. There are enough of those out in the General Population on Audiogon. That's why I never venture out. I also realize, and consider myself to be, the least informed person on this thread, so I am hardly in a position to try and bully anyone.
Again, I apologize.
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Never heard the chorus / soloists like this on any LP / CD I have ever heard. Quite a contrast in style between Barenboim, and the French conductor on the Handel pieces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJQ32q2k8Uo
Recommend everyone check out all The 'Proms' youtubes.
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****Similarities: instrumental, electric instruments, Latin percussion, same era.*****
This is amazing! You nailed it! That's exactly what I thought. Big group, lots of percussion, no singing, and drenched in latin Flavor! 1970's written all over it.
****That's where the similarities end and says nothing about style, and overall vibe.*****
Left that part to you smart guys! :) Maybe I should have used Mongo Santa-Maria's 'Cloud Nine'. More Jazz?
I said it was better than the Hancock piece because, I had already put them in the same bag. Rightly or wrongly. And in the same bag, for me, Santana kicks butt.
****Santana's band was very exciting (dynamic range?) like few others, but was clearly coming, first and foremost, out of a rock bag with Latin and funk elements. Herbie's Headhunters were jazz players bringing that sensibility to a funk bag.*****
Even a pro like you used the word FUNK in a description of both groups. So you can readily see how a novoice like me could get confused and overlook the finer points of the performances. Of course when I hear the word FUNK. I think 'Parliament' or 'James brown and the JB's'. We don't wanna go there.:)
Ideals I carry in my head.
The 1970's were a low point for Jazz. Sterile. I spent most of my time and money on pop and classical. I spent the decade traveling between Germany - Huntsville, AL - El Paso - Huntsville Again - Korea - and Germany Again.
We used to go to our favorite Korean bar and listen to the Stone's 'Sympathy for the Devil', all night!! Slim Pickings, but Better than nothing.
Not exactly fertile grounds for Jazz, except for the record stores in Germany. The whole thing was like a blur, a lost decade for me.
O-10 was correct to mention that 'Bitches Brew' started the decade. A harbinger of things to come. A Jazz date that will live in infamy!:)
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Let's put the Herbie Hancock thing to rest first. I didn't like the clip. No big deal. I have plenty of Hancock and a lot more on LP. I like the guy.
I think there is one element we have not mentioned in our discussion of the elvolution of Jazz, and that thing is MONEY!
It could be, that if Rockers, of limited talent, weren't making more money on one tour, than Miles made in his life, this Fusion thing might never have happened. Is it a natural elvolution, or one driven by money.
MONEY has come close to destorying many art forms and music genres. Look what happened to Country Music. No relation to the music I grew up on. Blues, has become almost laughable.. Gospel, with all this 'Mass Choir' non-sense and a bunch of over-weight women making folks motion sick. They just say the word Jesus, every now and then. Sterile!
So before we can evaluate change, we should decide if it's a natrual progression, or something that's market driven. That would make it an artificial change.
But Hancock is OK in my book. So is Corea.
The playing on Marsalis and Clapton Play the Blues:
The clarinet player may be average. Even Below aqverage. Maybe any player could have played what he played. You misssed my point. It was not the players, it was the music! The Tune, and esp the arrangement of that Tune. That moment! That's why I think you underestimate Marsalis. This guy is subtle and plays with taste. Just like he did on the Christmas thingy with Battle. BTW, no one has ever heard THAT Layla or THAT Walk With Thee!!
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*****One cannot judge art outside of its rightful historical context. Why? Because art always reflects the times; it is the RESULT of the time during which it was created. How good a job art does of reflecting the times is, ultimately, what determines wether it is good art or not. THIS, WETHER WE LIKE THAT PARTICULAR ART OR NOT!!!!! And chances are that if we don't like the art of a particular era, what we are saying is that we don't like the era. That is why there is always good art in any era; there will always be good artists (it is part of the human condition) expressing their reflection of the era. Wether we like what that era stands for, is a different matter.*****
I am not sure I agree. We have often judged art and artist outside of their era. And still do. How many artist thru history died poor and unknown, but are now considered among the greatest ever. And sometimes the reverse is true. And I am not sure the great masters in Europe for example, painters and musicians, represented their era. That era was pretty bleak for the vast majority of Europeans. I guess they played, wrote and painted for the poeple with the MONEY to pay. :)
The MOST IMPORTANT part of any argument is the premise upon which it is based. I think this is the source of all our disagreements. You say the art of any era is important, and can be considered great when evaluated in the era that produced it. I say great art is great art, regardless of era created or judged.
Sort of like saying the music of Philip Glass is great, unless of course, we are in 19th century Germany, then it's garbage!
Modern 20th century classical music is not the equal of Mozart and company. Period. It is not as important as Mozart, even to the listeners of this current era! The same goes for Fusion. Wynton: Not saying he is the greatest or any kind of god, just saying that, what he is doing is more important to the future of Jazz, than any Fusion players I am aware of.
To your point of, why pickup Marsalis, when you can pickup Ellington etc.... I made the same point to you a few life times ago.:) I said why pick up Fusion, when Hubbard and Mingus are sitting on the same shelf. Makes sense based on my premise!
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******I remember a comment that you made early on in this thread that has always stuck with me; something to the effect that somehow it was inconceivable that someone with a different opinion from yours might "have some insight into music that you don't*******
I honestly do not remember ever saying this. Does not seem to be something I would say, because it does not make sense to me now. You may have me confused with some Audiophile. :) In the early days there were some of them on this thread.. But send it if you have it. I would love to see the context.
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Let the people choose.
Heavyweight Fusion Players http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07RN1Omm_YM
Backwards looking and playing wannabe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpQZ_gGY68
I will leave it others to decide.
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Learsfool / The Frogman:
Thanks for your detailed and comprehensive answers. I am just amazed and awed by it all. You guys have the perfect job.
Thanks
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Some good'uns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu9RVPTpDyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IA3ZvCkRkQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXxRyNvTPr8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi0RpNSELas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3YjfMvWoOw
enjoy
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O-10:
You are spot on about it painting a picture. I have the album by the Ray Bryant trio entitled 'Slow Freight', but I cannot find it on CD. I do have Ray on a solo piano CD etitled 'Somewhere in France'. Slow freight is on this CD, but just solo piano.
I think this was the first Jazz LP I ever purchased. I still remember the cover art. Nice memory.
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*****I have no idea what a comparison between Weather Report and Wynton Marsalis' retro-jazz demonstrates or proves********
hahahahahhaha Frogman, you are incorrigible man!!
I bet you liked the Marsalis clip better!
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We had been going back and forth about Fusion and Wynton, so this unwashed brain thought, HEY, with the internet and youtube, we can hear them both, almost side by side, and then we can each say which we liked best. And why?
This is not a test, just fun. I thought others might want to weigh in. BTW, You expounded on all the faults of Wynton, but failed to enlighten us on the brilliance of Weather Report. Slight oversight I'm sure. I was hoping our OP and Acman3 and Learsfool would state their preferences. But, no guts no glory.
The first paragraph of your post falls under what the shrinks call 'Projection'. Unless you can provide some when, where and who, I expect a retraction.
***** why, at the end of the day, I would much rather listen to others (Louis, Warren Vache) playing that style of music:******
OK. I have no problem with your personal taste or preferences.
****I will not repeat everything that I tried to share before about the pointlessness of that kind of comparison. Nonetheless, some comments about Wynton:****
Well, how about some comments about Weather Report!!
***Wynton sounds fabulous; beautiful warm trumpet sound, nice rhythmic feel, and excellent command of the vocabulary of that kind of jazz. Notice I said "sounds"; that is key.*****
I agree with your description. Well, 'sound' is the reason for attending concerts. That's what people come to hear, the sounds.
*****Notice how little silence there is in his solo; he has to fill up very beat, and there is a sense that he doesn't know quite know to end his solo; when to stop (sound familiar? :-)*****
I have read a billion reviews in my day. From Stereo Review, All Music Guide, Penguim, Gramophone, Audio Critic, BBC Music, Jazz Times, Downbeat, Internet sites like Amazon and every thing else I can get my hands on, some now defunct. And I have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER read where a player did not know how to end a solo. Maybe they blew a little long (coltrane) but this is a first!
And I wonder how many of the paying members of that audience left the hall saying, "he didn't seem to know how to end his solos" or "he didn't connect his dots very well"!! These things are important to YOU. The sound is important to most other people. And after all, it's HIS solo!
Several months ago, I was reading the reviews on Amazon of a piece of Music Composed by LvB, and played by Berlin / Karajan. One of his Symphonies I think. Everyone ranting and raving. Five stars everywhere. The greatest thing since sliced bread.
EXCEPT, one reviewer. He said the recorded sound was great, the playing was great, BUT, "I am docking it one star, because I don't think Karajan really understands Beethoven"!!!! WTF!! I immediately looked at his name, thinking Furtwangler had arisen. Nope, just Joe Blow from Baltimore.
That is arrogance! Disagreeing with you, is not.
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