Jazz for aficionados
frogman Larry Young had a short life and career. I have everything he recorded on Blue Note records, pretty much his best output. He was the first guy who comes to mind who broke out of the Jimmy Smith method of playing organ. also participated ontwo cuts of Bitches Brew. unfortunately his later output after 1970 was not up to the same standards mostly commercial output, something he was probably pressured to do by the record company issuing the music.I'm featuring several cuts from earlier Larry Young when he recorded for Prestige or the new Jazz label .Some solid Blues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjK76JXf9vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRqJ70umXpE |
schubert love that version by Beegie of "Autumn Leaves". Never heard of her before. She had to be in her seventies when that video was recorded. looked her up on Wiki and she's still going strong at 81 with concert dates. Any decisions on the three piano comparison video? The guy who owns those pianos must be loaded. Just out of curiosity what is the price structure on those three pieces? |
alexWell said and I concur with your statements. keegiam I understand and feel the same about certain statements made on this website. But do you think any one person(s) is going to change the opinion of another person on this site. If you are so troubled about someone's comments on this forum Maybe if you really want to do something about it you should contact the people who run the forums.And as far as my wanting to stick to Jazz, that's my business not yours. Have a nice day. |
schubert after after listening several times to the young man playing the piano it was obvious that all three pianos have a different sound in presentation. My preference was the Bosendorfer. although the Steinway sounds beautiful I felt the Bosendorfer was much Fuller and richer sound and able to better convey emotion of the person playing. Hands down that would be my choice although I would have to sell my house to buy either one. Lol .The Fazioli I didn't feel was at the same level as the other two IMO. Others May differ. |
pjwDid you go to the Chick Corea concert last night? I had great seats 8th row orchestra . His working band ( Christian McBride, Brian Blades)Played about 2 hours total,including an encore. 3 Monk tunes, 2 standards, several Corea original tunes, and several classical pieces. The sound was excellent and the bands playing and interaction were top notch as expected. They have a new double cd , titled Trilogy 2 . Have to buy it Their first cd was a triple cd set, i will post something when i have time. |
acman3 thanks for the Chick Corea Trilogy vids. these three guys have such a chemistry and locked in when playing together. The cover of the album says it all with the smiles on their faces. this happened frequently at the concert with them smiling while playing together and it was obvious The Joy they have performing live.The classical compositions career performed whereby a composer named D Scarlatti, oh I never heard of. Maybe some of the classical listeners on this forum will know who he is. |
frogmanEnjoyed listening to your posts of different versions of "Caravan". my Takeaway on each:1) Bigard band: most notable was how each player has a very distinctive Timbre and strives to produce a strong sound Identifiable to that player.2) Abdullah Ibrahim`s. variations on Caravan was excellent. It shows a different improvisational approach which was fresh and interesting. I have several of his recordings and he always seemed to take a different path than most other pianists.3) I enjoyed Tommy Flanagan's version the best. He stays close to the Bebop approach as always a tasteful soloist.4) the Ellington Roach Mingus version sounded like 3 Guys having an enjoyable jam session. Ellington retains the flavor of the tune. There was another version of Caravan posted earlier by Jackie Terrason Although it was interesting I felt his need to pretty much deconstruct the song didn't add anything to it. |
pjw Interesting that you had posted something from Fela. O10 & I had discussed him very briefly earlier this year. I have been listening to him for 40 plus years. I was buying his albums way back when it was tough to find them. HIs music is enjoyable on more than one level. It's danceable but also the solos are interesting to listen to even though it's not strict jazz. A couple of points not in the article you posted. I had read that Fela was influenced by Miles Davis and Sly and the Family Stone. He was poised to make a US tour and break out as a star over here sometime around 1980 when he was arrested at the Nigerian Airport for having more than $5,000 on his person which was apparently a crime there. I actually wrote a letter through Amnesty International to try and help get his release. HIs breakout album of the time , was excellent I will post it if I can find it online. But unfortunately he never became a star over here. |
O10 that story you told about miles brother not buying his music was funny.!! the cut you posted by Miles sounded to me like later day weather report which I don't like. To me there was nothing original there I think I stopped buying miles albums after his first comeback album sometime in the 80s . I think the title was star people. Although I did see him in concert the year before he passed and it was terrific. |
pjw & o10 I really like Jacintha, I have several of her cd's .She really sounds great on SACD. Will po st something tomorrow . Here is my favorite version of " Boulevard of Broken Dreams" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t24xDweUX7M |
orpheus 10 Here's another from jacintha from an album " Here's to Ben" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CghbuJbu20k |
frogman The Tony Bennett posting was mine, credit where credit is due😀. Enjoyed the Jon Lucien Maiden Voyage. Thought you might like this version With the Brecker bros. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC_GjtY-YVs |
O10 I think Jacintha's version of "The Look of Love" compares favorably to Dusty Springfield's original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf1d65OHYXo |
frogmanPink lady are my favorite. A little bit tart like a granny smith but sweet also. I have to agree with you and disagree with O10. concerning putting lyrics to Maiden Voyage and Round Midnight. I I enjoyed the scat singing on the maiden voyage cut O10 posted but to me the lyrics written fit the song very well. The lyrics suggest of a first love and the journey taken. Not surprising that you and the OP are in disagreement😁 Re: Mark Murphy I love his vocal phrasing especially on Maiden Voyage where he uses his vocal phrasing to syncopate and really make the song Swing. Randy Brecker's solo on "on the red clay "is terrific. seems like Randy Brecker got most of the solo space on those two cuts from that LP. Was he considered better than Michael Brecker at the time that album came out? this Mark Murphy cut of a well kn own standard from another LP is one of my favorites. And believe it or not I like Mark Murphy's ballad Renditions even more than his up-tempo work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvTPeAYfuA |
orpheus10 excellent post on hard drugs used by Jazz musicians. Having read countless stories of past musicians Who became Drug addicts I always wondered How much better they could have been had they not used drugs. My YouTube post is from Gary Bartz the well-known jazz musician. He says a lot of different things. What most surprised me Is how he gave heroin credit? For helping him tap into the music. On a higher level. Very surprising. But he did backtrack and say that you could probably reach. A higher level by other means. He seemed to say that the use of drugs was like a fraternity. And that it was a way of fitting in with the musicians. He wanted to associate with. .You are right by saying they all wanted to tap into Birds Talent. I read a quote From Frank Morgan the alto saxophonist who said that When he and other musicians found out that bird died, they still went out and got high knowing that getting high was a cause of his demise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KL1pbN9Gj0 |
O10 Sonny Rollins pretty much says the same thing in this short video clip, the drugs were a Rite of Passage. And people tried them in order to tap their "inner spiriruality" In hopes of becoming a better musician. I think there were other sociological reasons for Jazz musicians doing drugs Which were discussed in the DVD" I called him Morgan." About the career and untimely death of Lee Morgan. In it his common law wife discusses hearing the musicians who frequented her apartment complain of how their careers, gigs, music publishing, recording contracts were all controlled by white people and the difficulties of a jazz musician career led some of them To Do hard drugs to escape reality. Not Saying this made it right, But just an insight into the mentality of people back then. O10-- I really think you would like the Lee Morgan DVD knowing how he Is your top guy on trumpet. I think others in The Forum would appreciate it also. Features his best music throughout. It features Many interviews with musicians that he played with some gone, some still with us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fnw9ddw6LK |
frogmanConcerning the article you posted on Rudy van gelder's engineering output. Correct me if I'm wrong. Because I didn't read the entire article But it seemed that the author was saying big name Studios had better equipment and more advantageous Studio space and so were able to create better sounding recordings than Van Gelder.Honestly I consider that premise a crock of bull. It doesn't add up for me. There's a lot more that goes into engineering ( microphone choices, placement of microphones, etc.) than just having the best equipment. And Studio space. For example a small company such as contemporary Made some of the best recordings of the 50s( examples Rollins Way Out West, Shelly Mannes trios , Art Pepper) due to excellent engineering by none other than the legendary Roy DuNann.I have been collecting. Vinyl and CDs for four decades and many of them. Engineered buy Van Gelder with excellent sound. For that author to dismiss Rudy's contribution as volume only And give him no credit for sound quality is ridiculous. Just my 2 cents |
geoffkait Thanks for the clarification. I guess I didn't Dig Deep enough into the article. Were those Savoy CDs the ones you were concerned about sound quality? Or is it anything that RVG did prior to 1959? I may have something on Savoy CD or vinyl engineered by RVG prior to 1959, will have to check into that |
orpheus10Right RVG Had the musicians and I'm damn glad he did!! Question: I saw some debate about who was the leader on Something Else? Miles or Cannonball. I couldn't locate my LP copy to answer this question. My question is : who wrote the tunes on the lp that weren't standards. If it was all miles or all Cannonball for the other tunes that would give an indication of who was the leader. |
frogman Thanks for the clarification, Maybe if I can find the time I can delve a little deeper into the article and it might change my assessment of the author. When one looks at it from the perspective of the many labels and recordings that van Gelder engineered You do get a sense of how important He was in the documentation Of the jazz music of that time. And We should feel lucky that these smaller labels flourished at that time and the music was made available. In research regarding the lp "Somethin Else" I found a recording date of March 9th 1958. BTW Cannonball did not write any of the tunes On the album. Of the six Tunes miles wrote won the title song, Hank Jones another and Nat Adderley a third one. . The other three were standards. Your points are well taken. It's an intriguing question. Obviously miles was signed to Columbia Records by this time. ? And probably wouldn't have received permission to be the leader on another labels album. Miles also did not take a backseat to anyone at this point in his career And would not have taken well To receiving directions about how to "play" on an album. Not that that would have happened because I have never seen anything in writing Or a video interview with a jazz musician where they were told What or how to play. In fact, the opposite is true. But it still is Cannonballs name at the top And until someone close to the recording / production says otherwise, I guess we'll have to accept that. |
orpheus10 I am glad you liked "I Called Him Morgan " I felt you would appreciate it. You are so correct about the weather . Without giving anyting away it played a factor for several reasons. Never underestimate the wrath of a scorned woman. Most of all, I felt the pictures, interviews and music presented a more complete picture of Morgan, not just as a brilliant gifted musician but as a person. I don't know if you have previously stated in the thread but did you ever get the chance to see Lee Morgan perform live? |
