Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

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O-10

Great clips. Enjoyed them all. Esp Kirk's version of 'The Entertainer'. I bet Scott Joplin didn't know he wrote THAT!!

Dizzy's trumpet was not bent upwards. Do you know when, and why, he did that?

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The Frogman.
To name such a distinguished prize 'no blues, no Jazz', Surely must imply agreement with the sentiment! Welcome aboard!

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O-10:

I agree about Christmas music. I am not into all these pop / Rock singers, and their "Christmas" albums. I prefer the traditional carols from England, Germany and the U.S.

There are a few secular exceptions to the sacred music. They are Johnny Mathis, Nat Cole and Fiedler/Williams and the Pops.

You can listen to Mathis in Texas, in August, and you will still look outside to see if it is snowing. He can really convey the Christmas season and Spirit.

I have the CD of that clip you sent. His version of 'O Holy Night' is awesome!! Nat Cole is in the same category. Love his 'Tannenbaum' For the fun, sleigh riding, modern stuff I reach for the Boston Pops.

I must confess I have two Jazz 'Christmas' CDs. One by Wynton Marsalis and the other by Oscar Peterson. Both very good for what they are.

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I think our OP has been smitten by the Baroness! :) Screw Eastwwod, she was a beauty by the standards of the European elite.

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Loud, fast and empty! Thrombosis alert! Always check the audience's reaction, that will tell you what's going on.

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Today's Listen:

Louis Armstrong & Oscar peterson -- LOUIS ARMSTRONG MEETS OSCAR PETERSON

Pops mostly sings here. Very little trumpet playing. Oscar and his trio give awesome support. Great line up of tunes. Louis is in fine voice.

Still, something is just not right here. Maybe it's because it's a studio recording. Maybe the Trio is not the best backing for Louis.

I am used to him carrying on, and interacting with the other performers. A lot of trash talking / flirting with a female vocalist. Also, no trombone!!

Both Louis and the Trio were great. The overall effect was just not what you would expect, given the performers. Perfunctory?

Maybe live, with Basie or Ellington would have been a better match. Of course he and Ella would have been the dream team!!

But, Louis and Oscar can never be bad. Just not as great as they usually are. This is like Louis in NYC, when we want him in Nawlins!! :)

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Acman3:

Very nicer tune. I have three CDs by Pullen.

'Live...Again', 'Kele Mou Bana' and 'Random Thoughts'. I will give them another listen and rerport.

The CD 'Breakthrough' that the clip was from, is now offered by 'these sellers' for $443.51 new! So I probably won't have that one.

Nice tune. Thanks.

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*****Empty!?! Empty!?! Damn! At first I thought you were referring to the "Bebop" clip; "loud, fast and empty" was exactly my reaction. I didn't say that because... well, like my grandmother used to say.....You seemed to like the "Bebop" clip, even if it wasn't by Diz.******

Can we at least agree that today is Friday?
I thought I liked the 'Bebop' clip in spite of it being Dizzy. When you said it was Faddis, then I thought, well that explains why I liked it. Dizzy is a seminal figure in Jazz and a great player. An imposing personality and innovator. And, he did go to Cuba, which changed everything for the better. Can't talk about Jazz without mentioning him.

Just not my favorite trumpet player, just as Bird, is not my favorite Sax player. Has to do with style, not talent.

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*****But, wait!, you mention the audience; so, you must be referring to either the Horace Silver "Cool Eyes" or the Phil Woods/Tom Harrell. Now I am really confused. On the Horace Silver clip the Dutch audience looks like they don't know what hit them and seem totally uninvolved; in spite of the great music. On the Phil Woods/Tom Harrell clip what I can see of the audience is mainly two gentlemen who are clearly digging the playing*******

I am speaking of the 'TRUMPET' playing on the Woods/Harrell. clip. This conversation started with trumpet playing. The Horace Silver clip I saw, was just a still shot of the LP cover. Nica's dream. No audience. I may have missed a clip. But I can assure you I would not be critical of Silver. On the Woods/Harrell clip, there are a few shots of the audience. One shows that, during Harrell's solo, people in the booth have turned their backs to him! Not a good sign, assuming they are Jazz lovers. But not proof of anything either. Other than having a big un-Jazz like, belly, Woods was Ok by me.

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********So, in the spirit of enlightenment and sharing can you expound on that a bit? What is it the makes it empty for you; what is lacking? Better yet, what do you hear in the "Bebop" clip that you don't hear in the "Tenor Of The Time". Perhaps the music was better than you think, and had the intended impact on you simply because a very good argument can be made for the tenor of our time being "loud, fast and empty". But, the playing? No way!*******

When I was in college, it seemed as if the Trumpet players were always the brash and trash talking bunch. I was one of them. But the guys from Memphis and New Orleans were light years ahead of me. One of our favorite things was to have what we called 'head cutting sessions'.

We would get the Excerise book and see who could play it the fastest and longest without screwing up. Once we destroyed the Purdue University Trumpet section at the Indianapolis 500. We were bad!! :)

My point is this: That was not music. Just notes used to improve technique and sight reading. And that's what Harrell sounded like to me. Playing the exercise book.

Also, the body language of all, save the bass player, did not indicate that even the players themselves, were into the music. The piano player could have been Horowitz playing Chopin!!!

I did not mean to imply that 'fast and loud' was a negative. Esp, since my favorite tune is "Hog Calling Blues"!

In the Bebop tune, I heard a Jazz GROUP, playing bebop Jazz, with, among others, a trumpet soloist. In the Woods/Harrell thing, I heard a guy blowing a trumpet. It did not convey anything other than that to me.

You must keep in mind that I am a member of the unwashed masses, and often times miss the finer points of music. I just know what I like, when I hear it.

I have one final point to send.

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*****he has been living with (and controlling) schizophrenia *****

Sorry, I didn't know. I withdraw the comment.

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**** Now that I don't have to write about music, I can just listen and reminisce about better times****

I know the feeling!!!! :)

I can swaer that I NEVER wore Argyle socks! But I remember Pink and Black being a hot combination. Even in automobiles.

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A few posts back, remember the 'treacherous road' thingy? I wanted to make a point but it seemed as if we had moved on so I didn't. I will make it now to elighten you as to HOW I, approach, receive, judge and understand music.

Recently I received several of CDs from Amazon. Among them two CDs of Spirituals. I love only Jazz more. The CDs were: GREAT AMERICAN SPIRITUALS. A great CD. The songs are sung by Kathleen Battle, Barbara Hendricks and Florence Quivar. WOW! What a lineup. They didn't sing together, they each did several songs on the CD.

These are two world class Sopranos, and a World Class Mezzo. They have performed around the world, at all the great Opera Houses, under the greatest conductors, and singing the greatest and most beloved roles in Opera. Taught at the top schools and by the top teachers. Their 'nuts & bolts' are impeccable!! I will enjoy this disc forever! Highly recommended!

The second CD was MAHALIA JACKSON - LIVE AT NEWPORT

She sang spirituals here also. The two CDs only had two songs in common. A night and day difference. I don't know if Mahalia has much, or any formal training. Probably just started singing at her church. Her 'nuts & Bolts? I am sure they don't match the divas. But here is what Mahalia can do, that the divas can't: She can make a person Cry!

I remember the effect singers like her, had on people from my childhood. Old women with eyes shut, slowly nodding while tears streamed down their faces. And the choir was nowhere near in Mahalia's class. Mostly field workers and domestic workers. Zero training! No 'nuts & bolts. They used to scare the hell outta me. When they started singing I always moved closer to my Mom.

That's the difference THAT CAN exsist between impeccable 'nuts & bolts' and less polished music, and musicians, conveying emotion.

That's it. That's me.

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Acman3:

****If he had been around from 1955, and died in 1963, AND played on Blue Note you would love him.****

You know what? I think you are correct. But to play for Blue Note in 1955, aha, he would have been a different player. :)

Also, I am only speaking of this one tune. I am not trashing the guy totally. They are all magicians to some degree. And in that sense, I love them all.

Suppose the only Miles, or the first Miles, I had heard, had been 'Bitches Brew'!! That would be the only CD of his I would own. At least, until I could sell it.

I am sure Harrell is a good player. I do admire him, after learning of his condition. And he does know his way around a trumpet.

Woods is still fat!

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In a previous post I said that Mahalia Jackson could make a person cry and that the Divas could not. I was wrong. Listening to the 'Great American Spirituals' now. Florence Quivar!!!!! Being a Mezzo, her voice is ideally suited for this type music. WOW! What a voice!
What Voices!!!

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Well!! I guess I know when I am not appreciated.

I will take my expertise elsewhere!!

Goodbye cruel thread!

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I hope you like these, if not, you may find it rough going in Opera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTFUM4Uh_6Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP1951ZxIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kbi1EMcD3E

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Today's Listen:

Bud Powell -- THE AMAZING BUD POWELL VOLs ONE & TWO

Yes Indeed!!

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As usual, The Frogman missed the boat.

The easy ones first:

Joplin, she is a fraud and so is her music. Just a horrible rendition of an American classic. There ought to be a law.

Simone, Tried to be TOO profound, or TOO cute, TOO soulful or TOO something. She could have nailed this song. It was in fact boring. Just sing the song!!

Callas, great voice and opera singer. BUT, I did not understand a word she said. I could follow her only because I knew the words and the tune. I guess she thought she was singing Mozart.

Price, another great Opera singer. She nailed it! Not in spite of 'fish', but because of 'fish'. This is from an opera about poor blacks in South Carolina. It ain't European Opera. Price sang the song as if she understood that. And for those of us that know that area of South Carolina, she was spot on in her intonation.

Price should be the winner. And besides, she is my home Girl!

The idea performance would be from the singer performing the Opera itself! If the answer is not Price, then O-10 deserves to be 'swept away'. I have a Texas-Sized broom!

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O-10:
I agree with The Frogman. I will leave also. O-10 you are the best OP ever on this entire site. You stayed with it all the way.

But The Frogman is correct, he and I were fighting more than discussing.

Guys, I really enjoyed it and I learned alot.

Now, to figure out how to withdraw from the Audiogon.:)

Cheers to all.
O-10:

You are a sage! And a diplomat! And I am glad I got to know you. Thanks for the kind words, but you were always the soul and spirit of this thread.

Is it possible to carry on via email? I think you are correct when you say, we are going to miss it.

The best to you, and yours, always. And thanks for being just an all around good guy. A rarity on this Site!

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O-10:
I will research Wardell also. Currently listening to / watching, Marsalis, von Stade and Battle. If you did not get that DVD, shame on you.

The second act is almost a Jazz set. And she is hitting on Wynton the whole time. It's a wonder the boy could concentrate on his Nuts and bolts! :)

I will be watching this one, all year.

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******In no way am I saying that you should change anything; however, I am saying that we must accept one another as we are. Whatever petty point of contention between you and Frogman, that went on and on, should have been dropped before it reached this stage.******

O-10, as always, you are a voice of reason. I agree with all you said. Maybe I will learn someday, not to sweat the small stuff.

BTW, after playing The Fairfield Four's 'Standing In The Safety Zone', at the appropiate volume this morning, all is right in my Kingdom! Makes one feel glad to be alive. Puts all other things in their proper petty place.

I have two new(to me), Ellington CDs. 'Three Suites'(includes his take on 'The Nutcracker') and 'The Ellington Suites'. Are you familiar with them?

What is your opinion on buying 'refurbished' speakers?

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O-10:

I found this while trying to bring order to my book case.

" 1,000 Recordings To Hear before You Die "
by Tom Moon.

Very good reading. Well written. Excellent synopsis on each recording. All Genres. Includes 'world' music.

I have found a few over-looked gems, and I am also surprised at how many I already have. The historical aspect of the writing is the most interesting.

This does not pretend to be a list of 'the best', just ones you must hear. Important Recordings.

Check it out.

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'Delilah' was a nice tune. All the folks on Amazon were impressed as well. Here is an interesting excerpt from the Amazon Site Reviewer:

Amazon.com
"Many a young musician has been sabotaged by his own considerable abilities. So caught up are they in technical execution that they give elements such as emotion and taste short shrift. Trumpeter Clifford Brown was a musical dynamo, a man who was capable of playing many instruments well and who possessed supreme natural instincts and boundless energy. Brown painstakingly practiced and perfected his technique, but when practice time gave way to playing time--there was no other time for him--Brown's command was so deeply ingrained that he was free to concentrate on those other elements: emotion and taste."...............

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Puts a smile on my face!! :)

I ordered it today. Seems like one I should have. Thanks for the tip / clip.

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I have the CD 'At Basin Street' and 'Plus Four'. Listening to Basin Street now. Thanks for all the info in your posts. Here is the review from Amazon.

Amazon.com
"The Clifford Brown-Max Roach quintet was already one of the best in modern jazz, but when they added Sonny Rollins to the fray in late 1955, it became a lineup for the ages. Basin Street, recorded in early 1956, marks the studio debut of Rollins with the band, and the result is a supercharged highlight of the postbop era. The three furiously paced standards that kick off the set feature superb blowing and crafty arrangements that offer spontaneous intros and rhythmic shifts. Of special note are the contributions of pianist Richie Powell, Bud's younger brother, who not only adds three excellent compositions (the intricate "Powell's Prances," the poignant "Time," and the irresistibly catchy "Gertrude's Bounce"), but also proves himself to be a standout soloist and accompanist. Of course, Brown's bright tone and remarkably fluid ideas are in full bloom as well. Sadly, the quintet would record only once more (Plus 4, issued under Rollins's name) before the June 1956 accident that claimed the lives of Brown and Powell." --Marc Greilsamer

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*****Branford Marsalis is the only famous jazz musician I can recall with an Audiophile rig, and his wasn't anywhere near the rigs these people have here. What does that say about audiophile rigs, and professional jazz musicians?****

It might say that, they know how LIVE sounds, and that no system sounds LIVE, so why not get, a pleasant to listen to, modest system, that does not sound LIVE, as oppposed to getting a mega-buck system, that does not sound LIVE. Unless of course, the mega-buck system sounds mo'better not LIVE!

I remember those articles from 'Stereo Review' back in the day. I was amazed that my Sansui Based system was the equal of most of the system's of the professionals.

I decided that, if a real Jazz player could be happy with a Receiver and Mini Advent speakers, why couldn't I??

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)-10:
Gray seems to have been quite a talent, who may have placed family before Jazz. So why is he, and his contribution to Jazz almost invisible?

Interesting Documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUhfubHKSAY

Nice clip Acman3. You do have an ear for the good stuff.

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Damn O-10, you better lay off that egg nog, or at least the stuff you put in it!! (Old Crow?)

We can all be thankful that Wynton Marsalis got the gig at Lincoln Center. Who else could have done it?? A great representative for Jazz.

The man is at home in all musical settings and venues. All genres also. His playing on 'Silent Night', had me screaming!!! This guy is awesome!! And Wycliffe looks like he is out of central casting, as a trombone player is a Chicago speakeasy. The entire group looks 'Jazz'.

I looked at all my Benny Goodman and Dexter Gordon and Count basie CDs, and could not find Wardell Gray on any of them. I will have to order one from Amazon.

A Merry Christmas to you also. And to all 'Aficionados'.

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*****Rok, some of these "100 Best Jazz Tunes of The 1950's" sound better than my recordings, and that includes vinyl, although I'll have to split hairs on the vinyl, and if it's necessary to go back and forth to decide; that means the CD's are better when you take all things into consideration*****

"And in the end times, They too, shall see the light."
Book of Rok: Chapter 3, Verse 7.

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O-10:

I fully understand that this is a Jazz thread. In spite of that, now that I have 'discovered' Classical Music and Opera performed on DVD, I have a million questions. Who / where do we go for question time?? Seeing as how both of our resident Classical gurus are off somewhere sulking / pouting.

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The easy part first: OPERA :)

Don't jump in, stick your big toe in first! To see if you really like opera singing I will recommend ones I own.

PAVAROTTI'S GREATEST HITS

Has him at his peak (1980) singing the greatest Arias from the greatest Operas. This is a 2-CD set on the Decca label. On Amazon for $12.25!! This is great singing period! Placido Domingo has a few CDs of this type also. There is a reason excerpts of Operas are produced, because all you really need is the Arias. The rest of it, you have to be there to enjoy or 'get it'.

On the Soprano front:

Maria Callas, Jessye Norman, Kathleen Battle et al, have similar records. Not the whole Opera, just the 'good parts'. :) I have, and recommend:

Maria Callas -- LA DIVINA 3

To my taste, the Tenor Arias in Operas are much more enjoyable than the Sopranos.

If you like any of these, remember always get the 'highlights' of the Opera. I would start with the popular stuff like, TOSCA, CARMEN, and BARBER of SEVILLE.

A little Opera goes a long way with me, so I don't stray too far from the well known stuff.

Don't forget Opera on DVD. I just received The Barber of Seville with Kathleen Battle at the Met. Have not watched it yet. Will let you know.

Will send Classical recommendations later.

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The Learsfool:

All of your comments on Opera were excellent. I remembered Mozart the moment I hit the 'submit' button. But, as we are just getting started, and, as in Jazz, you gotta get them hooked first. I will save him for a later day.

Questions:

(1) I have recently aquired a few Classical DVDs. I noticed in each of them, a man sitting in the middle of the orchestra wearing a headphone with mike thingy. He was dressed as a member but did not have an instrument. What is that all about? His purpose?

(2) I noticed that the trumpets look different than those I am used to. The keys / valves are now horizontal, not vertical. What's that all about? Why the change?

(3) When a composer writes a piece music, say one of Beethoven's symphony, does he write the part, every note, for each and every instrument in the entire Orchestra?

Thanks

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O-10:
I agree about the quality of the recordings. In fact, when I first heard them, I assumed something was wrong with them. Maybe the high frequencies were missing or something like that. Nothing that cheap, could sound that good. But, you got it right.

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O-10:

Start the New Year off right!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNnplwRbS8U

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Learsfool:

Last Night, the local PBS station aired the New York Philharmonic with Yo-Yo Ma. The program featured music by Osvaldo Golijov, an Argentinian Composer.

The Music was entitled 'Azul'. I thought it was much ado about nothing, but Yo-Yo makes anything sound at least interesting.

After that experiment, they played Tangos by Piazzolla. Ma has made CDs of Tangos before. It was great stuff.

The program ended with Ravel's Bolero. EVERYONE likes Bolero, Except, of course, Ravel!

I noticed that most of the wonem in the Orchestra wore brightly colored dresses. Very nice effect. I contrasted that with DVDs I have recently watched, Vienna, which had NO women, and Berlin, which had their women dressed like the men.

I like the American way much better. I also noticed that it seemed as if more than half of the violin section was female.

How do the top American Orchestras compare with the best Europeans in the world today?? I don't think you can buy CDs by American groups, so I have not heard them recently. Are they still as good as they used to be?

I used to know the names of all the conductors of NY, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland and Philadelphia. Not now.

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Regular trumpets in use also. :)
Comments welcomed. I don't have the words!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XIjGei8zG8

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O-10:

Nice enough tune, by Gato Barbieri. Don't know If I could listen to an entire album. Listened to the Soundtrack of 'Last Tango in Paris'. Don't see what all the hype is about there either.

In the early 70's, I was in El Paso, jamming with WAR and EW&F etc... A Jazz wasteland, although WAR did do a 'Jazz' album. During that time, I did get to hear some good live Jazz in Tucson. Great party town then.

Didn't fully get back on board with Jazz until 1977, when back in Europe.

I do have Gato Barbieri on LP, but he didn't make the cut to CD.

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O-10:

*****Rok, after getting me into this Classical, Opera bag, you failed to comment on my responses;*******

I did comment in my head, just forgot to type and send. The CARMEN piece was good. I had not heard it by this singer before. Her last name was von Manteuffel. That was the name of a German General in command oif one of the Army groups that fought in the Ardennes during the battle of the bulge. He was also an olympic Fencing Champion I believe. I wonder if they are related.

I have many CARMEN's, my two favorites are by Callas and excerpts from the film featuring Julia Migenes Johnson and Domingo. Now that's a CARMEN!! I must get that on DVD. Once you read the story line, you will know why Carmen has to be a beauty, and Johnson is that for sure!!:)

BOLERO, is as I said, beloved by all, except the composer. The clip you sent, Berlin/Dudamel, was very good. I see where the snare drummers were very forward. In fact they were in the violin section. I did not know they did that. I assume all orchestras do it given the prominence of the drum in the music, I just have not seen BOLERO on video before.

The condutor, Gustavo Dudamel, is the lastest whiz-kid from Venezuela. He formed a youth orchestra in Venezuela that was very highly regarded. I hope he does not let fAME cause him to abandon that project.

I have two zillion CDs with Bolero included. My go-to copy is by Orchestre de Pairs / Daniel Barenboim. It's French music, and they seem to play it best, to my ear.

If you will notice from the clip, it's one of the few classical pieces with a part for saxophone. The Sax being a French creation, I guess Ravel wanted to give it a little action and exposure.

The Carmen soundtrack I mentioned earlier is also by a French Orchestra. Again, French music.

I liked the music by Chico also, but it was hard to concentrate. I kept expecting / wishing for Liz to have a ' Wardrobe Malfunction' . hhahahahah

Nice clips. Thanks.

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Beautiful enough to make even O-10, get 'ligion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkUoxCGPWrw

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Learsfool:

Thanks for all the info. Sad to learn that the bright dresses were a one off thing. I liked it. I went to the NYPO site looking for recordings. Slim pickings, but I will check out the other groups.

A few more questions:

(1)What is the normal path for becoming a conductor? I don't recall ever reading anything about the well known conductor's career prior to them becoming conductors. What are the prerequisites?

(2)Are people ever fired for sub-par playing etc...

(3) What sort of turn-over is there in the typical orchestra?. What is the most common cause of vacancies? Is there a waiting list?

(4) What is the FUNDAMENTAL difference between the top and the second tier orchestras.

(5) Who OWNS orchestras?

(6) Pay scale. Who gets what? Ball park.

Thanks for all your time and input.

Cheers

Learsfool:

Thanks for the thorough and informative responses. look forward to the others.

O-10: I was listening to 'Louis Armstrong Plays W.C. Handy' this weekend. SACD only. That's music from your neck of the woods.

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O-10:

I listened to this yesterday. Ms Fischer is a great player and a FOX!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56njjw1qtk
Highly recommended.

I also played Bach's Complete Brandenburg Concertos and the Complete Violin Concertos. Played by I Musici. One of my favorite groups. Has Maurice Andre on Trumpet. :) This is one of those Philips Label TWOFERs I spoke of earlier. Great music and a Great bargain!

Clair de Lune? Again, it's one of the most beloved tunes. Great clip, but short. If I have it, it's on some sort of complilation. Stop cherry picking and git yourself into some Bach! He may have been the first Be-Bopper! Or first 'Third Streamer'?? :)

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O-10:

Also listened to CD7 of the 100 best set. You are right about the sound quality.

I heard bass on Jimmy Smith's 'Sermon' that actually startled me. :) I was at 'realistic' levels.:) I didn't think my Yorx's had it in them! Great tune, even if Coltranesque in length.

Mingus' 'Better git it in your Soul' Wow! How does he do that! He should rank at the top of Jazz composers. Right up there with Ellington.

And why don't we ever talk about Dinah Washington when discussing Jazz Divas? She has a very distinctive voice.

Ray Charles was Ray Charles!

The set gets better as time goes on. I now stay on the look out for similar sets.

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Learsfool:

Thanks for the post. That was very interesting. One of the reasons I ask all these questions is that, of all the different genres I listen to, and I listen to them all, I find Classical players the most interesting.

I guess because they are the most anonymous. The Conductors and the singers get all the glory and recognition, but the players make all the magic.

They also look and act so 'normal'. Could be the guy next door, or someone's Grandma. And the ages vary by a larger margin than most other musical groups. I often wondered what they, and their careers / musical lives were like.

I looked for the Horne CD on Amazon. I think I will have to settle for a used copy. "like New" :) It's a 3 CD set, so that means the complete Opera. I usually like the 'highlights'. But, if you say it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, I will have to get it.

I looked at all my Operas on LP today. Gotta love that cover art. Nothing by Horne, although I do know of her. I have several with Beverly Sills, my first favorite. Street wise NY babe.

I did wiki Horne. Interesting life.

Thanks for the tip and info.

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The Frogman:

I read the Jazz.com article, and kept thinking, 'Hog Calling Blues' without knowing precisely why!

Are you back now, or just dropping in from time to time? Are you available for questions?

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part two might be even better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Egi1EQ2Ecw

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All of these several clips are very interesting. This one most of all. The part we never see. The preparation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGcig8Wj_A

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O-10:

If you look and listen closely, you will notice when Battle leaves Carnegie and goes to church!!

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