O-10:
I did answer your question. You just have to fill in the details. Let me put it this way:
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, survives contact with American Culture!!! That's the answer to your question O-10. The details of the musical part of it, I leave to The Frogman.
A few folks doing some so-called voodoo thing in Nawlins, is not the same as saying African music has survived in this country. A lot people in Nawlins are from the Islands, not American at all. Even to this day.
Neither the Slaves nor any music they may have had, survived the culture clash. Hell, slavery itself could not survive it. The millions of Europeans immigrants of the 19th century did not survive.
For example, the French know this, but, because of their arrogance and illusions of grandeur, are fighting a losing battle against it. The rest of the planet has happily succumbed.
Worried about Chinese Power? You needn't. We have The Stones on Tour, Buick is the most popular car, and the Golden arches and KFC are everywhere. You can feel free to sleep like a baby.
The slaves and their music never stood a chance. This was not a beating on a log type place. They lived in a 'European' country. Cuba and Brazil were colonies 'administered' by Europeans. There is a difference.
Just a few things to ponder.
These slaves did not all come from the same village. Hell, they didn't even have the same religion or language!! And once here, they were displaced all over the South. Sort of hard to mantain 'traditions' in that enviroment.
How large a 'population/concentration' of people is required to sustain a culture? EVERYONE was not a musician or even cared about music.
And lastly, an inferior culture will always succumb to and try to adapt to a superior culture. That's just human nature. Beating on a log or western music? Who do you think is gonna win that one.
Also. America was the land of oppourtunity even by slave standards. Maybe not so much in Cuba or Brazil.
The Frogman was on target with his comments.
Cheers
Suggested reading: 'Guns, Germs and Steel' and 'The Diary of Mary Chesnut' |
*****Well, it's pretty obvious to me****
Me also. I just thought the 'high-end' would have made a better showing.
Actually I didn't think that. It's just that, given the results, why ask the question and/or do the 'test' in the first place. Given that they 'published' the results, I thought it would demonstrate how close the two were. As you said, no contest.
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O-10:
I will check out the 'three wishes' book. I just love to read tidbits like that. I am also going to break down and finally buy a book of Jazz photos. Both of the players and the LP covers.
The Ike Quebec tune was great.
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Today's Listen:
Mingus Big band -- QUE VIVA MINGUS
Too many players to list.
This CD is a tribute to Mingus' love of, and use of, Latin rhythms in his music.. 10 tunes. All by Mingus. The tunes' Latin rhythms range from Columbia to Mexico To Cuba.
A few tunes were 'latinized' such as 'eat that chicken'. very nice although the vocals were better on the orginal. But the tune works!
There is nothing I could possibly add to the liner notes. Excellent and very detailed review of each tune. Among the best liner notes I have ever read. Written by Sue Mingus. I wish I could do that.
She did use this quote from Composer/historian Gunther Schuller speaking of Mingus' compositions.
"there is nothing quite like them in the avant-garde or European Classical music. Mingus himself considered his music to be outside category, neither Jazz nor Classical. "It's 'American Music'," he once said. "Or better yet, just call it Mungus."
Relates to our previous discussions.
The entire brass section shines on this CD. Esp Randy Brecker. As a bonus, a photo of the entire group with names to ID them.
You know you want it!
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Acman3:
There was a tuba on the Mingus Big Band CD I posted. I meant to mention it, but forgot.
Guess they are more common than I thought. Now all we need is a full CD of solo Tuba! I could put it right next to my CDs of solo Harp and solo Bassoon!
Thanks for post. I have that CD by Coltrane. Now I will listen to it.
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Today's Listen:
Various -- THE SMITHSONIAN COLLECTION OF CLASSIC JAZZ
This is the 'Revised' remastered edition, released in 1987. The original was released in 1973 on LP. The sound quality on this set is much improved.
This is a 5 CD set. Starts with Scott Joplin and Jelly Roll Morton, and ends with Ornette Coleman and The World Saxophone Quartet.
The sound quality on the early stuff is AMAZINGLY good. The later stuff is good also.
The package is typical Smithsonian. Well done with many nice touches. Great detail on all the tracks. Includes the soloists, and the order of their solos. Date and place recorded and personnel.
A 102 page booklet. Repeats the liner notes of each disc and includes great pictures. The historical information is priceless in itself.
They didn't miss many of the greats. Below is a link to the tune list.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Smithsonian-Collection-Of-Classic-Jazz/release/457754
The sound on the 1973 release was not good. The Scorr Joplin tune 'maple leaf rag' is a recording of a piano roll made before electric recording. Sounds just fine here.
No filler. All great tunes. Even includes two(2) versions of O-10's favorite, 'East St. Louis Toddle-Oo' by Duke Ellington! :)
All Jazz people should have this.
I am becoming a fan of these complilations. Like the '50 Greatest Jazz Tunes' I posted about earlier. Sometimes you just don't feel like an entire CD of Coltrane, or anyone else.
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Interesting woman. Born a Rothschild. This article tells of her relationships with various Jazz players.
http://www.icrates.org/baroness-nica-the-musical-legacy-of-pannonica-de-koenigswarter/
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I suspect, Nellie 'didn't play that'!
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O-10:
Alice Coltrane:
I liked the "Blue Nile' the best. Probably because of the guys playing on the set. Both cuts were easy on the ears.
I have noticed that if you use the mouse to skip ahead on the music, you find that one point sounds the same as any other point. Like you are not missing anything.
No Beginning, middle, or end.
Her harp is nice. I like it.
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Today's Listen:
Big John Patton -- GOT A GOOD THING GOIN'
Patton(organ), Grant Green(g), Hugh Walker(d), Richard Landrum(conga)
Soul-Jazz at it's best. Patton and Green made several records together. This is one of their best.
The music and playing rises to a level above just covers of pop/R&B. Two Pop covers 'ain't that peculiar' and 'shake'. There is some serious playing here from both Green and Patton.
Blue Note label, recorded in 1966. Check it out.
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O-10:
Once again you bring to my attention music I already own. Great clip. I will listen to the entire CD tonight.
My CDs always seem to sound just a little better if blessed by O-10.
Monk is Monk! hahahhah
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Today's Listen:
Lou Rawls with Les McCann Ltd. -- STORMY MONDAY
Rawls(v), Les McCann(p), LeRoy Vinnegar(b), Ron Jefferson(d)
Lou Rawls' first recording. Recorded in 1962 on BlueNote.
13 tunes. Mostly blues. The Count Basie, Joe Williams type of blues numbers.
This is a young Lou Rawls. You can hear it in his voice. It would get better as he aged.
The Les McCann Trio provide good backing. No weak tracks. Most are well known tunes like: 'God Bless the Child', 'See See Rider' etc... My favorite is "I'd rather drink muddy water"
Willie Dixon said "blues is the truth", if that is true, and it is, then they recorded this session with one hand on the Bible, swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Lou Rawls -- AT LAST
This is Rawls 27 years later. Still on Blue Note. Sort of like a complilation. Lou is joined by Dianne Reeves, Ray Charles, Stanley Turrentine,David 'fathead' Newman and Bobby Hutcherson.
A more sophisticated outing. Better arrangements and much larger band in support. I like the singing on this one best. He seems to be into the songs to a degree he was not in the first disc. Experience? This is the mature Lou Rawls that we all know.
11 Tracks. All good. He does a duet with Ray on, 'That's Where It's At' and with Dianne on 'At Last'. Great stuff.
For Rawls fans, both are must haves.. His first, and close to His last.
Cheers
BTW,
The avant-garde,and Free Jazz, Bullshit!?!?!! Why I never heard of such a thing!!! You can add Southwest Pakistani folk Jazz etc... to the list also.
Where were you two, when I was saying the same thing? All I got for my trouble were attacks from all sides.
You just can't keep the truth down, you just can't do it! :) Welcome to the light, and the fight. |
The Frogman:
**Can you name the composition that is quoted in this performance?**
I tried. I really tried. This is like a musical version of the Rorschach Inkblot Test. Everyone hears what they hear. I heard noithing that I could recognize as melody or a theme. But I do admire their audacity.
On a more positive note. They performed at Ansbach Castle. I have visited Ansbach many times. Great place to eat and shop during the Christmas season. Great old world European ambience.
The U.S. 1st Armoured Division was / is headquatered there.
BS?? Yep!
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O-10:
Glad you are enjoying the '100 greatest' set. I keep mine handy on the desk, because I listen to at least one disc everyday. I like the element of surprise as to what's next.
I saw Lou Rawls live in Baltimore, back in the day. I read where he had the third most recognizable voice on the planet. After Howard Cosell and Muhammad Ali. How do they determine this stuff? :)
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Today's Gems:
Ella Fitzgerald -- ELLA IN ROME - THE BIRTHDAY CONCERT
Recorded in Rome on Ella's 40th birthday.April 25 1958.
All standards. 18 tunes. No filler, but how can anything by Ella be considered filler.
The Italians are very enthusiastic and appreciative. Some great singing here. 'Midnight Sun', which she owns, the best 'that old black magic' since Louie Prima and Keely Smith, and a great 'Carvan'.
I have concluded that this woman does not sing, she 'plays voice'.
The last tune was 'stompin' at the savoy'. She was backed by Oscar Peterson and his group on this one. Great tune to close with.
She verbally 'introduced' Oscar's solo, while singing the song. Never missed a beat! She just made the words part of the song. Amazing.
It's Ella in her prime. Enough said. If you don't know what that means, Git outta Jazz!!!
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Today's other Gem:
Willis Jackson -- BAR WARS
Jackson(ts), Charles Earland(o), Pat Martino(g), Idris Muhammad(d), Buddy Caldwell(congas)
WOW! Honking Tenor and Screaming B-3, with Pat Martino with them every note of the way. This is just great happy music fit for a good happin' bar. Reminds me of a group I used to listen to in Binghamton, NY.
If you are not up and dancing around on 'The Goose Is Loose', Check your pulse, you may be deceased! I thought we were about to have a 'hog calling blues' event. or at least a Gonsalves 'interval' thingy.
Pat Martino is the real deal.
I would say you gotta have it, but the only one on Amazon is from 'these sellers' and they are asking $230!!
This could be the most valuable CD I own!! :)
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Stravinsky??? That's like comparing apples to apples. I asssumed the answer would be classical since you barred The Learsfool, but, STRAVINSKY??
Stravinsky is known as the Ornette Coleman of the Classical world. Or is Coleman known as the Stravinsky of Jazz. I get them confused.
I have a few of his LPs. Nothing on CD. I always enjoyed his album cover art, and at that time LPs cost $2.50, so what the hell. Can't recall listening to any of his stuff more than once.
Congrads to Acman3.
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O-10:
Nice clip of Rawls. Back in the day we would say, the boy is strung out! I felt sort of sorry for him.
I probably would not have received the tune the same, if I heard it without reading your comments. You have a good feel for the music.
I have learned a lot on this thread. Thanks for the clip.
Cheers |
Pointless but fun. As the man said, take with much salt.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/orchestra-569062-philharmonic-symphony.html
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This is special.
A CARNEGIE HALL CHRISTMAS CONCERT (DVD)
Kathleen Battle, Frederica von Stade, Wynton Marsalis (septet) Andre Previn.
You must have it. Not only will you be treated to a great performance, you will probably be smitten by the foxes doing the singing. They were so into it.
Marsalis was brilliant!! A young Wynton. This was done 22 years ago. His work, arrangements, are always so tastefully and appropriately done.
It is great. Had me and the wife tearing up. Don't pass on this one!! Make sure you have it. You won't regret it.
Cheers
Why is all the good stuff performed in NYC? I ain't trying to start nuttin', I'm just saying!
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The Frogman:
I have that CD by Jon Hendricks. Jon Hendricks and Friends. A lot of big time people on the set. Turrentine, Marsalis, Basie and of course McFerrin and Benson.
I remember the first time I heard him do 'cloudburst'. WOW! That was with Lambert, Hendricks, & Ross. One of the best Jazz LP covers. Just oozes New York sophistication. Love the mike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDbAsndZGW0
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The Frogman:
Are we talking about Federal Reserve, Greenspan? If so, I guess I could see him playing tenor sax, in his younger days.
***“The worst part of Ms. Rand's parties was Mr. Greenspan running around naked in the lobby.”***
That would be the worst part of anything I can imagine. That's too awful to contemplate, even by New York standards. Unless, he under-went one hell of a metamorphosis from youth to old age.
The Baroness definitely had better taste in Be-Boppers. :)
Of course, Ms Rand was no raving beauty. But a brilliant mind!
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Lest you folks think I am some sort of Xenophobe. It don't get better than this. What voices! And this is right down the road from the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6MTmGnolbs
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O-10:
The Ursula Dudziak clip was interesting, but not my thing. Why does she have trouble with words?
I see she was born in Poland in 1943. Tough time and place to be born!
If you have three books by and about the Jazz Baroness, you must find her very interesting. I think I saw her on the documentary about Monk.
She was 'married off', by her family, to a French control freak. Can you image what that was like? Came to America and didn't go back. I don't blame her. She was disowned by the family, but apparently she got her share of the money. I think "Rothschild" means money, in all languages. Drove a Bentley!
Were they having sex? Here is a multiple choice answer.
1. Yes
2. Absolutely
3. Without doubt
4. all of the above
These were Jazz Musicins!! And that does not make them 'animalistic'!!! hahhhahah Your Baptist is showing. :)
I have quite a few books by Ayn Rand, my favorite author. She changed my outlook on life. I bet she loved Jazz.
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****"Gypsy Jazz"! Just when I thought I had heard it all, Acman3, you come up with something new; I like it.*****
I can't wait until you get to Papua New Guinea Head-hunter 'Jazz'. Maybe you, The Frogman, and Acman3 could then fly over and catch a few shows.
I hear their instrumentation is rather limited, but boy, do they get down!!
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Lawd, Lawd, my burden is great!
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O-10:
Before you posted, I was listening to R&B you-tubes and ran across Horace Silver playing 'Nica's Dream'. Thought you might also find this interesting. Apparently Monk died at a house she owned also. This woman was on pace to wipe out be-bop!! :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonica_de_Koenigswarter
So to recap, within the last several post we have:
Battle, von Stade and Marsalis making magic at Carnegie Hall, and just down the street we have a future Fed Chairman running around a hotel lobby naked, and around the block we have two winos lolling around inside a Sport Bently 'Guarding it'. What a place! Reminds me of the Last Poets' 'New York, New York, the BIGGG Apple.
hahahh all in jest, of course.
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****there was one odd pea in the patch in that compilation we got, and his name is "Django Reinhardt". The book says 'Nuages' reflects his interest in bebop; I can't hear it. While I like Django's music, it's certainly vastly different from the rest of the 99 tunes.******
The reason for this is because the music he played was not Jazz as we know it. He was a Gypsy musician. Played the guitar.
I think he was considered a JAZZ player in early 20th century Europe, because they didn't know what else to call it. It didn't sound French, and he didn't look French.
In many places the word Jazz has has meanings, usually negative, much different from what we now think of Jazz. Often it was just a catch-all for music out side of the norm. Esp it it was fast and sounded exotic.
Raed the Wiki thingy, and you will see what I mean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_Reinhardt
As the Germans always said "If you can't goose step to it, it must be Jazz" :)
Cheers
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O-10:
I was not aware of Johnny Lytle. The clips were awesome! Esp 'St Louis Blues'. In the manner of Ray Charles, he played it so slow, it made you wanna scream! Both were great.
There is quite a bit of his stuff on Amazon. I will look for the one with St Louis Blues for sure. And since I now know a little history of him, it's a slam dunk for me.
See, there are 'undiscovered' gems right here in the USA!
BTW, as I was reading your post, Lou Rawls, singing 'Saturday Night Fish Fry' was in the player. It features Lionel Hampton!! Love the vibes.
Thanks for the find. I get the Baroness' book tomorrow.
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The Frogman:
Thanks for the info. If I run across the magazine with the 'all the notes' thingy I will let you know.
I called my personal Physician today. She is a Jazz lover also. Told her I had absorbed a full dose of European pseudo-Jazz. She said the best antidote is to immeediately listen to the real deal.
She prescribed 'Oscar Peterson Trio at The Concertgebouw', with Herb Ellis on guitar. And, if needed, Wes Montegomery's 'Smokin' at the half note'
Didn't need Wes. Brother Herb was the cure. :)
Cheers |
Today's listen:
Benny Goodman -- BENNY GOODMAN LIVE AT CARNEGIE HALL
2cd Set. Recorded in 1938. The liner notes say this is one of the most important Jazz concerts ever. Sort of like a coming out party for Jazz in the presence of Polite Society and at a big time venue. Not to mention that it seems to have been a totally integrated affair. Not a trivial thing in 1938. Goodman was courageous that way.
A lot of big time players here. The Goodman Band, parts of the Basie and Ellington Bands.
Some of the more notables include:
Goodman, Basie, Teddy Wilson, Lionel Hampton, Johnny Hodges, Cootie Williams, Lester Young, Buck Clayton, Harry James, Gene Krupa and others.
The music is good and played with enthusiasm. The entire effort is let down by the recording. It's uneven. Not much noise, but the volume seems to come and go at random, and sometimes the soloists fade.
A later reissue on CD brings out the music a little better, but more noise along with it. I guess we can say it would be the 'audiophile' edition.
All great tunes. My favorites were 'bei mir bist du schon', 'sing sing sing' and 'honeysuckle rose'. Krupa shines on Sing Sing sing.
It's a shame events like this were let down by the technology of the day.
It was a significant event, and I am glad I have it. Jazz lovers into more modern sounds, and not that much into the history of the music, can probably pass.
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Learsfool:
Yes I have the Peterson CD. The 'story' about the Doctor was just me messin' with The Frogman.
I only mentioned the 'all the notes' thingy because I was pretty sure it was Paganini and his '24 Caprices'. Which from what I read, gives you classical folks a bit of trouble. So I thought there was a chance some of the notes were missed, which would be astounding to me!
But it was probably as you said, just a repeat thing or the conductor's shortening of the work.
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O-10:
I remember back in the day when heart transplants were a lot more iffy and rarer than they are today, a famous doctor listened to 'Inside Moves' by Grover washington jr, while performing a transplant. Blew my mind!
That's what I call a Jazz Lover!!
I have 'Mister Magic' and 'Then and Now'. I also have 'winelight' which I have on the Pop rack. He did a few records with a non-Jazz guy whose name I cannot recall now. I suspect he was a lot of folks entry into the world of Jazz.
Nice clips
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Johnny Lytle:
Dang!! The Frogman is a hard taskmaster.
Lytle is a 'soul-Jazz' player. The 'groove' is the thing. Almost like instrumental R&B. And, as you yourself have done in the past, to indicate a player's ability: He played with Armstrong, Lionel Hampton, Miles, Nancy Wilson, and Bobby Timmons etc.... And recorded over 30 albums.
The bells on 'Summertime'? I don't know what that was. St Louis Blues? I liked the tempo and the 'groove'. This is not 'Giant Steps' type improvisation. Was not even the intent. Lounge music.
Give Mr Lytle some love! :)
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******* I don't understand how a truly comprehensive discussion on jazz can take place without substantial mention and discussion of players like Goodman, Artie Shaw, Harry James and others from that period.*****
That would be easy to do. There are not that many players that 'must be' mentioned in a history or comprehensivbe discussion of Jazz. A small percentage.
The Label, BLUE NOTE, for instance, is more important to Jazz than any of the people you mentioned. In fact, I am not sure they played Jazz at all. They all took solos, and displayed great skill on their instrument, but I am not sure that much 'improvisation' was going on.
*****The level of artistry, within that style, is fabulous; not to mention their contribution to paving the way for the more modern players.*********
Technically proficient? Without a doubt. But so was Maurice Andre, and any number of players in classical Orchestras. They just don't play Jazz.
To paraphrase a very popular bumper sticker down here in the Bible Belt:
No Blues, No Jazz
Know Blues, Know Jazz
Pretty much sums it up.
And Shaw's 'begin The Beguine' is one of my all time favorite tunes. All these guys made great music. Great Swing and big Band music.
In fact, I had heard a LOT of Harry James and Goodman, before I ever heard ANY Miles or Morgan or Hubbard et al. Maybe that's indicative of the problem. A lot of people were accepted as being things, that they were in fact, not!!
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Acman3:
Now, I have experienced two of the worst musical moments in my life!!
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O-10:
Both of the Stan Kenton tunes were disappointments. Mainly the sound quality and the arrangements.
We had Mellow-phones in our marching band, but they looked sort of like French horns.
I LOVE Malaguena. I wore out a few '101 Strings' LPs playing that tune.
I also just LOVE Drum and Bugle Corps. Used to be televised down here. Some of the top units used to stop here and practice at the locl High School.
Here is the best of Both worlds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECUpJuUeAQ
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O-10:
Got the 'Three Wishes' book yesterday. This is much more than I expected. This is really an eye opener for me.
The comments, the majority of them, seem to open and honest. And the photos are priceless! The Baroness was not much of a photographer and/or did not take care of the photos. But, in a way, that adds to the book. The people and their lives were not picture perfect either.
So far, the biggerst surprise is how often they wished they could play better. Could play what was in their head. Master their instrument. Wished Jazz was respected.
You cannot help but admire these guys. And nobody seemed to be getting rich. At least judging by the photos. In fact money/jobs was often mentioned.
I think this is a gem. Best book on Jazz / players I have so far. Thanks. Will have more to say as I read it.
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The Frogman:
******Our main area of disagreement is in the absolutism of a comment that you have made several times to the effect that the "public decides who is great". If that were true then how do you explain the popularity of so much music that you, yourself, consider not worthy of respect; all the music's with a prefix?*******
Because more members of the public like it, than don't like it. Or, at least, enough buy it to make it PROFITABLE. I am just one member of the public.
*****there is no glory in ignorance and knowledge does not in any way detract from the emotional appreciation of the music. That is a mistake that those content to remain "ignorant" of the nuts and bolts routinely make; that ignoring the facts somehow leads to a better emotional connection with the music.******
I agree. But it's not my point. Ignorance has nothing to do with it. Neither does knowledge. Music either makes a connection with the listener, or it does not. You can't say, this player's nuts and bolts are better, therefore, you should like his music better. Or that it will/should sell better. It just don't work that way.
******If you understood a little more about the nuts and bolts it would be perfectly clear to you that they are improvising. How on earth would that be a negative? You may still not like the music but it would at least bring you one step closer to acknowledging that it is jazz.*****
This may be true. But I should know that improvisation is taking place, without having to be an expert on nuts and bolts. But, this would not even apply to Goodman or James. Their music was not that complex. David Murray maybe. And I see he has changed his ways lately. :)
*****And BTW, the great jazz players would be the first to admit that jazz really is like a "6 lane highway"; it ALL goes into the stew pot.******
Jazz players are the most political correct people on the planet. They are never critical of anything or anybody. At least not on the record. They all talk that stew pot stuff. The people that ask the questions, KNOW what the answer will be.
Another term for 'The Public' could be, 'The Bottom Line'! As in the bottom line of the financial ledger. It's two different ways of saying the same thing.
The 'Public' or the 'Market Place' decides. Nuts and bolt notwithstanding!
Remember VHS vs Beta-Max?? Same principal.
I think you are looking at this from the perspective of a professional musician. Everything you say about music and Jazz, is absolutely true. I never doubt any of it. Who am I to doubt a pro? It's just, that what you are saying, does not survive contact, with the unwashed, ignorant masses. You know, the folks that buy the LPs, CDs, and tickets. You are talking art, I'm talking business. We are both right.
I am currently 'reviewing' my lastest purchase, 'Tiny Tim Plays Monk". Lord, Lord. I am bloodied, but unbowed!!
Keep the faith baby!
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O-10:
Just listened again to CD1 of the box set this morning. Speaking of sidemen? On these sets the sidemen are as accomplished as the leaders. It's like a who's who of Jazz.
The music on this disc seems to have less of an edge or attitude than that which would soon follow. I was surprised that Parker sounded so 'normal'? :)
I just love the fact that a very nice informative discussion of each number is included. Listing the members of the group and the LP the tune is taken from. This is a very good buy.
The only thing I don't like is that some of the pages of the booklet are difficult to read due to the background colors of some of the pages. They never seem to consider us old timers, or at least consider our eyes.
I noticed that Django/nuages, was followed by MJQ/Django. Cute. I also liked that the tunes were short. Except for Miles of course. His 'Walkin' was 5 times longer than the average tune. But, he be Miles!
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O-10:
As far as working people:
Back in the day Coleman Hawkins was rehearsing with Monk's group. Hawkins was complaining about the difficulty of the part he had to play in the tune. Monk said,"you supposed to be a saxophone player, ain't ya??? ahhahahahaha priceless.
Allow me to paraphrase: You and The Frogman are supposed to be Aficionados, ain't ya?
You should know all this stuff off the top of your head.
O-10: Page 93. What's up with that????
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Can anyone recommend a " DVD " of Beethoven's 9th? A performance you have seen on a TV and has first rate audio and video.
Thanks
Cheers
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*******Jessye Norman was too operatic********
Lets just say she was teetering on the fence. :)
******kathleen Battle and Fredrica Von Stade; they made me long for the magabuck system I don't have in order to hear everything, or to have been there in the flesh.******
Mega buck system not required. People have been enjoying this great recorded music since Edison and his player. Sounded great on my Yorx setup! Now being there, I agree! I have since ordered and received, all DVD:
Richard Strauss Gala: New Year's Eve Concert 1992 , also with Battle and von Stade and others. Berlin/Abbado.
New Year's Concert Vienna 1987: Also with Kathleen Battle. Wiener / Karajan
Rossini: IL Barbiere di Siviglia with Battle and others.
MET Opera Orch and Chorus / Weikert
Love her singing. Her beauty has nothing to do with it.
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In the book, Charlie Mariano's wish was:
"I wish I had Bird's heart and technique. But who needs the technique? If I had Bird's heart, that would be enough."
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The Frogman / Learsfool:
Thanks for the input on Beethoven. After thinking about it, and I do think sometimes, since I have many 9th's on LP / CD, then the video is the thing I am most interested in. I want to SEE all this magic, that I have been listening to for so long. So video quality and camera work are most important.
The Christian Thielemann performance seems interesting.
The Ideal, would be Bohm-Viener-Domingo-Norman-Fassbaender, but I have not found a DVD of that one yet.
I do have Karajan-Berlin-1963-SACD. I thought that would be the ultimate, or at least the ultimate Karajan.
Thanks.
Now let us quickly return to Jazz, before the OP notices!
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I heard LvB at ther very beginning on piano, and at the end on guitar. But, as has been pointed out on this thread, I don't know how to listen.
Overall, not a bad piece of music. The could have dropped the pretense at LvB.
They seemed to be pretty impressed with themselves, and their playing. Judging by their facial expressions and body language.
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Today's Listen:
Jimmy Smith & Wes Montgomery -- JIMMY & WES THE DYNAMIC DUO
I thought this would be a small group effort, but it turned out to be a big band thingy. Conducted by Oliver Nelson with Jimmy and Wes dueling out front.
A lot of good ones. Night Train, Road Song, Down by the Riverside, baby it's Cold Outside, etc... They all cook. The big band is only there when needed. They do not intrude on Jimmy and Wes as they push each other.
On this CD, both of these guys, are as good as I have ever heard them. They really do feed off each other. With arrangements by Nelson and personnel of the caliber of Clark Terry and Melba Liston, in the band, what's not to like.
Great Stuff.
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As my Baptist Pastor keeps telling me, "man can't live on Bop alone".
Here are my Christmas recommendations and recent acquisitions.
NEW:
A CARNEGIE CHRISTMAS CONCERT -- Battle, von Stade, Marsalis, Previn. CD and DVD!!! Esp DVD!! 100 Stars!
Only Ebenezer Scrooge could not love this one!!
CHRISTMASTIDE -- Jessye Norman
One of the greatest singers ever. On stuff like this she can sometimes be a little TOO operatic, but on this one, she comes down to earth, and it's just perfect. You gotta have it!
CHRISTMAS STAR -- The Cambridge Singers and Orch./ Rutter
Lot of English, German and French carols here. Sung with those unique English voices. Outstanding!. 22 Carols!
Old Favorites:
THE MANY MOODS OF CHRISTMAS -- Robert Shaw/Atlanta Orch & Chorus Telarc
MESSIAH -- Boston Baroque / Pearlman Telarc
MESSIAH -- Toronto Sym / Davis EMI
SONGS OF ANGELS -- Robert Shaw Chamber Singers Telarc
For those of you, Like O-10, that knock on the front door, when you stumble upon a church:
Silent Night from the Temptations Christmas CD.
Merry Christmas Baby - Charles Brown
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Messiah 'highlights', of course! :) |
