The lack of historical and sociological perspective on display here from time to time is disconcerting. Rok, in particular, as I've said before, just doesn't get it.
Boxing? Really?
Keep the music coming, folks. It's part of America's soul - the only common language we have, the only arena where European and African cultures, rammed together by the brutal drive to make money regardless of morals, found some synergistic harmony. Honor the music, please.
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@pjw81563 and @orpheus10 +1 on the social commentary, and for "Inner City Blues" Sam Cooke "A Change is Gonna Come" (1963) - weren't we all hopeful it would? It's not looking so good these days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPr3yvkHYsE |
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@orpheus10 That "Moanin'" video is priceless history. Well done! Freddie's solo is too strident for me, but then again my hyperacusis may be to blame. 1964 Monk - Paris "bootleg" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al697st1oeU |
Given my brain fart, from now on I will refer to these two trumpet greats by their full names: Lee Hubbard and Freddie Morgan...er.... wait...
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@orpheus10
<<According to Keegiam, Freddie "whoever's" solo is too strident.>>
No, I said it's TOO STRIDENT FOR ME, and explained that it could be my hyperacusis. FOR ME = MY opinion in MY world, not some kind of official proclamation that should be taken as an insult by the jazz gods. There's a lot of Coltrane that is TOO STRIDENT FOR ME. Oops, am I allowed to say that?
O10, it's good to see you back, but you remain one of the most abrasive personalities I've encountered in many years on various forums. It's also nice to know you've never had a senior moment late at night. Let the Freddie gaffe go, please. It's getting really old.
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@frogman Those "Hand Jive" tracks are amazing. Just ordered it. Tone meister indeed - love the growl Scofield gets on this one, seemingly regardless of where he goes on the fret board. Live with Lovano, who must have been stoked by the way Scofield backed his solos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExP19-pokq8 |
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@schubert
Thank you so much for that beautiful Nicolo Pellegrino piece. 10 years old and playing oboe with such reverence for the music - not to mention his musicianship. Very refreshing and downright inspiring. BTW, he didn't need sheet music.
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@frogman
Fabulous Ray Charles clips. He was much more than a generational genius - he heard, understood, and shared with us an entire century of America's unique and treasured musical heritage. We can hear it all when he plays and sings. Just close your eyes and let him take you there.
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The mere mention of Wayne Shorter often launches me on hours-long journeys that are both nostalgic and exploratory. Back in the day, he marked my second level of immersion (after the initial Miles/Coltrane fascination that seems so common). Shorter was a compositional genius right out of the box. Miles saw and heard it, and thus was born the core of the greatest jazz quintet ever. But Wayne was also independently churning out masterpieces like JuJu, Et Cetera, and Speak No Evil, and we'll be forever better off for it. Mesmerizing, exotic, intoxicating, essential. From Shorter's first record as a leader, 1959 (with a jovial, light-hearted Lee Morgan): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR_DoavkF28 |
@pjw81563 Thanks, I'm looking forward to curling up with the "Footprints" book this winter (while finally getting more time to listen). Also, an honorable mention to Kenny Wheeler, who I believe got even less notoriety than the great Kenny Dorham. '76: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQ2a11UYog'68: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1QQv2sDV_E@frogman So many profound observations re: WS - not to mention the spot-on collection of quotes ("spot on" because they reflect so perfectly the musical mindset I've been hearing for half a century). JFA rewards yet again. Thank you. |
@mahgister
"Calm Revolutionaries." A very apt phrase you just coined. Well done.
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@isochronism
Glad you liked the Kenny Wheeler. My understanding is that JFA regular Mahgister is also a KW aficionado. Enjoy your exploration!
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@rok2id
"Since I Fell for You" and "Ruby, my Dear" just made me melt. Well done, thanks.
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2nd trumpet, but we only had 1-2-3. Eventually migrated to baritone and a little French horn, the latter being a b**** to play cleanly.
Funny that so many of us began with trumpet - I can't recall this coming up before on JFA!
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@frogman
Priceless skit - Barbutti does the lower-rung player perfectly. Love him gearing up with the mute, then throwing in one note. We've all been there.
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Another great Art Farmer concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZA7WSA3xkGotta wonder why the flugelhorn didn't figure more prominently in the jazz world, as did the tenor sax among the woodwinds. Richer, deeper tone - sexier than the trumpet and cornet. I guess there just weren't many flugelhorns laying around back in the day? |
@schubert and @frogman
Nice philosophical exchange on the meaning of music, thanks. Schubert - my POV is that frogman doesn't "see" the music, he hears it and feels it.
If music is "seeable" for you, you may be stuck in the European sheet music convention. That's how I was trained: read the music and play it. But the best stuff comes from the soul, not sheet music. That's why we're all here on JFA. |
Monk and Rouse live on radio 1964. Yikes.
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Re: Shirley Scott. In your dreams DeFrancesco!
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