Jadis orchestra reference or DA50 for Proac D15?


I have a new Proac D15 loudspeaker (88db), driven by a Cayin A-50T integrated tube amplifier. The amp is 35wpc under ultralinear mode using four NOS Mullard EL34 tubes. I am considering replacing the amp with JOR or DA50, but not sure which one should I go ? Thanks a lot for your suggestions !!!
yz_yang
Hi Trelja, thanks a lot for your useful feedback! I learn a lot about Jadis amps from the comments you made in other audiogon threads.

My Cayin A-50T amp was previously used to drive a pair of B&W 683 speakers (90db). Most of the time the amp was operated in triode mode (16wpc), which produced a clear and lively sound. If switched into ultralinear mode (35wpc), the amp became more powerful with very solid and strong bass, but sounded a little bit harsh to my ears. So for the high sensitivity B&W 683 speakers, 16 wpc was enough to listen to most albums I have.

Recently I updated part of my system. The speakers were replaced with a pair of Proac D15. I like the new speakers, which give a much softer and cleaner sound, better image and a bigger soundstage. Strangely, many albums that sounded lively with the amp operated in triode mode became liveless, lacking of dynamics. Some improvements can be heared when switching into ultralinear mode, but still not good enough for me. I suspect that the amp is not powerful enough to drive the Proac D15 that has a realatively low sensitivity (it is low, but should not be hard to drive???) That is the reason I want to update the amp. The famous Jadis brand is my first choice.

I don't have a chance to pair the Proac D15 with a JOR or D50. If so, it will be much easier decision for me. One attractive thing about JOR is that it accepts both EL34 and KT88 tubes (should sound different). I learned from previous threads that the ONLY thing that needs to be done when swapping between these two different kinds of power tubes is manual biasing, is that correct ??? Tube biasing is not a big issue for me.

For the DA50, it only accepts KT88/KT90/6550 (same tube family), and I can not play around with my NOS EL34 tubes. However, if the DA50 does sound much better than JOR when paired with the Proac D15, I will have no hesitation to go for it !
Yz_yang, you provided a lot of good information there, thank you!

I believe the DA50S should be able to run EL34/6CA7/KT77 tube variants without issue. Though it and the DA88S were featured with KT88 output tubes, I think, like the other cathode bias Jadis integrateds, running the smaller tubes would be no problem. If you have doubts, I can check with my friend, who is one of the principals at Jadis, and will provide the definitive answer.

Personally, in my DA30 and DA60, I very much prefer the EL34 over the 6550/KT88/KT90.
Hi Trelja, it will be a great thing to use EL34 tubes in DA50 !!! yes, please check with your friend at Jadis to confirm this. Thanks a lot !
Yz_yang, I have received confirmation from Jadis.

You can use EL34, 6CA7, KT88, 6550, KT90, and KT120. He has not tried KT77, so he feels uncomfortable to recommend them. But personally, I use them with no issue.

Many folks are talking about KT120 these days. According to him, they can be used in every Jadis except JA50, JA100 and JA250.