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If Audiophiles care about sound, then why so few threads on acoustics

... and so many on cables?

I am sure there are 10 if not 50 times more posts on cables too?

I would hope that as audiophiles we could agree that acoustics are far more important than cables. A cable may (or should) make a fraction of a db change. Acoustics can make several db changes (or more).  A cable may have some impact on clarity or soundstage (and many can rightfully debate that). Acoustics absolutely will have an impact on soundstage.

So what is the reason? 
  • Is it because acoustics are "hard", i.e. you really have to put some thought into it? 
  • Are acoustics not sexy enough? 
  • Is it because they are often unattractive?
  • Is it because they carry much in the way of bragging rights (at least with many audiophiles)?
  • Do they not provide enough "retail therapy"?
  • Most audiophile really don't understand much about acoustics and can't contribute?
  • The difference between those who understand acoustics and those that don't is substantial for people are fearful of wading into discussions?

Interested in people's thoughts. People will drop thousands on a cable, $10K on an amp, or turntable, but I don't see anywhere near that spend on acoustics in most cases.
heaudio123
dmaddox77
49 posts
 
heaudio123, sorry should have been Surround Left and Surround R.  At ear level beside sitting position.
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skypunk
499 posts
 
Please enlighten us on what we are missing.

I have treated my listening room and think it sounds great.

This is also very subjective, like bourbon's and cigars.
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troutchoker
66 posts
 
The reason "autophiles" don't get into acoustics is they do not know how to do the math. Plug and play away is the tekkie way. Something new? That will do. High priced junk - give him a hunk. You can't make good sounds in a closet, but you can make a closet sound its best.

Anyone who understands acoustics is either working in the field or listening to his/her tunes. Equipment alone never gives up the fullness of good music. That's why there is so much foolish tech on this site.

May the music you love fill your days, your nights, and your life. If you prefer to be an electrician: go for it.
heaudio123 OP
689 posts
 
dmaddox77, the two side walls "may" be best and this is often what is recommended, mainly based on math simulations done by Harmon and others. Problem, is, almost all (all) those simulations assume no output from the mains and and one of your primary modes (~50hz) will still have your mains putting out a lot unless you high pass filter them. This is where measurements really help.


Heavy carpet everywhere and more absorber panels may leave your room over damped. Would need to be careful. Need to balance diffusion.
glupson
7,842 posts
 
So, it becomes an interesting puzzle to incorporate aesthetically pleasing (or "invisible") acoustic treatments in a shared living space.
One of the manufacturers of acoustic wall panels, I forgot which one, offers customized design. If I understood correctly, you can send them a picture and they make a panel with it. You could pick a color only and make interesting designs on the wall, or your kids' paintings, or whatever else comes to your mind.

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