Hi facten
Good question, the room at the Newport Show sounded very good. I think they had 3 or 4 of the 3 to 1 plug splitters plugged into every socket. Not to mention of the other High fidelity gear in the room.
Enjoy Pete |
facten
When a product works well like the MC O.5 its easy to market.
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Hi jay23
Would have to agree with hifial. although 1 MCo.5 on my 20 amp dedicated feeding my amp, made me sit up and take notice. I now have 7 of them on that line. Each time i add some it just got better.
I am still comparing my Hemisphere with my PSaudio P10 and will post later in the month on it.
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sofrep811
I would try a MC O5 in your system, if you liked that then i would look into the cables. All the products come with a 30 day return policy. the MC O.5 are the easiest to install into a system and try. I started with 1 and now have 12. I plan to add more in the near future.
Enjoy Pete
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hifial
I will give the Hemisphere more time before making a change back. I did experience the roller coaster ride when the Hemisphere was plugged into the P10 for about 300 plus hours, so giving it 100 hours more out of the P10 loop no problem. The sound of the Hemisphere mids and highs are very good.
ozzy
The P10 is great piece of equipment. If you get a chance to plug the MC O.5 into the back of it please post your finding. Have you noticed on the P10 screen if the THD has change any with the MC O.5 on the power line coming or going ? I do not know about the Graphene and magnets. the Graphene is from what i read very very dense maybe its holding the magnets back? A question for Rick at High Fidelity. Rick is real good about responding to question put to the High Fidelity web sight.
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ozzy
Have you tried any of the MC O.5 plugged into the P10? If so how many and what was the results? Do you use the multi wave feature on the P10?
I removed my PSaudio P10 from the loop, plugged the Hemisphere straight to the wall(non dedicated line 15 amp) The P10 fed the Hemisphere for more than 300 hours. with the P10 no longer in the loop the Hemisphere as about 30 hours straight to the wall. the sound and sound stage has changed. The Mid range and highs have increased quite a bit very smooth and clear not harsh in any way shape, opened way up. The sound stage has gotten wider. Very happy with the mids and highs. The tv picture seems to be much sharper than before.
On the down side the base has lost a little, it just not have the clean or detailed base as before the change. May be not as deep as before or tight. Going to give it some more time, before i make a decision on putting the P10 back in the loop.
I have add 4 more MC O.5 to the power line that feeds my amp for a total of 7. The line that feeds the Hemisphere has always had 3 MC O.5 on it(same for the P10 when in the loop) The Hemisphere has 2 MC O.5 plugged into it.
Enjoy Pete
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ozzy
Thanks for the info, lets us know after you get a little more time on them.
Just saw this to day In the July issue of Stereophile vol 39 no.7 There is a review of PSaudio P10 by Jim Austin He reports about what i experienced when i removed the P10 from my loop, about the drop off of tightness in the base.
My Hemisphere is still plugged straight to the wall(no P10 not in loop)The highs and midrange is just beautiful, sound stage is taller wider than it has ever been. The base is still disappointing (not as good as before). But to be fair i will give it at least 100 hours more before i decided on putting the P10 back in the loop
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hifial
Thanks you for the info. High Fidelity products have lifted my system to the next level and beyond, so giving the Hemisphere more time will not be a problem. I will report down the road as the changes happen.
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Hemisphere 6 update
With the Hemisphere plugged directly to the wall (P10 out of loop) as i stated before the mids and high where great but the base was a little lacking. Now with the Hemisphere having more hours (a little over 120 plugged directly to the wall and over 300 when plugged into the P10) the base has returned and it is now better than before. the P10 has some features i will miss, but bottom line the Hemisphere has taken my system to a much higher level. Looking forward to my next High Fidelity purchases.
Enjoy Pete
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riawry congratulations lets us know how they do with more time on them.
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benjie
I had a very similar problem, I have a PSaudio P10 it use to feed my Hemisphere which had my pre amp and disc player plugged into it. My amp is plugged into its dedicated 20 amp line with 7 MC O.5 on the same line. When i removed the P10 from the loop and Plugged the Hemisphere straight to the wall. My sound stage in the midst and highs just explode for the better. The base took another 150 hours before it took off for the better. It is slowly getting better across the board with more hours on it. long break in seam to help the High Fidelity products work their magic.
enjoy Pete |
Romazicon
Thanks for posting the review link
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I am with you OZZY, but it does not sound like it going to happen sorry to say.
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Did Rick improve the original CT-1UR?
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High Fidelity new CT- 1 Level 2 jumpers vs Transparent Ref.XL jumpers (mm2)
The CT-1 crushed the Transparent jumpers in my simple system. The change was not minor is was huge. I have been a Transparent cable fan for a very long time. I use their speaker cables and xlr interconnects in my system. I have not used any of the newer generation 5 wires, but have used the MM2 level Ref XL line through out my system and have felt that it was good.
I have slowly add the High Fidelity entry level tweeks to my system and each time is a nice improvement. I own now 16 of their MC o5 and a MC6 hemisphere power conditioner. the CT-1 level 2 jumpers where the biggest size wise improvement in sound yet for me. Every HF product i have add to my system has been a step up in better sound.
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Has any one found what would be the diminishing return on how many MC O5 you can put on one line? At the last Newport Audio show They had 4 or 5 ( 3 to 1) stack up on one line. Has any body gone beyond that?
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Ozzy and ddraut thank you for the info.Pete |
Has any one tried using the Power Cube a 5 way splitter instead of the orange 3 way spliter. The power Cube comes any several different models. The base model is a 5 way plug. If it could be used then it would shorten how far out of the wall your stack of 3 ways would stick out. Not to mention you would be able to have more of the magnetic power applied in a shorter line. |
Hi ddraudt
Thanks for the info. I did pick up 2 of the power cubes, but have not had a chance to play with them yet. I do see where the cubes does block the second plug slightly. Waiting for my 3rd and final High Fidelity jumper to ship for my speakers. Then i will order some more MC O5 to go with the 16 i already have. At that time i will play with the Power Cubes and adding more MC O5 to the system.
Thanks again Pete
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misterbritt
I have the MC 6 Hemisphere and 16 mc o5s along with 2 set of the High Fidelity level 2 jumpers waiting on my 3rd and final set of jumpers. No power cords , interconnect or speaker cables from High Fidelity. The Mc o5s are 7 on my amp line and seven on the line that feeds the Hemisphere with 2 plugged into it.
I can compare the Hemisphere to PSaudio P10 i have both. The Hemisphere does not have any surge or spike protection and has 4 less outlets than the P10. The P10 is a very nice unit, but in my system the Hemisphere beat it out with a bigger sound stage in the mids and highs. The base was very close once the Hemisphere broke in (long break in 600 plus hours) the break in is kinda like a roller coaster ride with the finish well worth it. The Hemisphere is only for front end units, TVs no amps unless it very low low power. With the P10 i could plug a small to medium amp into it. The P10 is a nice unit , but the Hemisphere just sounded cleaner, sound stage was bigger and more life like for me.
I hope this helps a little
enjoy Pete
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I Tried the Power Cube with the MC 05s and it did not workout at all. The Power Cube blocks part of the wall plug that makes the second outlet unusable. I tried using a very short power cord and the Power Cube. MC O5s do not plug into it very well. I could not get the MC O5s to plug in flush with the Power Cube. The prongs on the MC O5 seam to be to long and left a quarter inch gap or more exposed at the plug. I did find another 3 to1 plug, that is "L" shaped. Which would make the MC O5s point straight up or down depending on the ground plug of the socket you where plugging it into. Using this 3 to 1 spliter and using the original orange colored 3 to 1 spliter allowed me to add 6 more MC O5s to each of my power lines. This keeps the MC O5s from sticking out to far from the original wall plug. With a total of 13 MC O5s on 2 power lines (total of 28 MC O5s in my system). Yes the sound did improve again across the board.
I would really like to try out a High Fidelity power cord at the Reference level or Ultra Reference level. But for this i would have to get the wife on board and she would have to step up as a big team player and sell a Kidney or Lung to make it affordable. That does not look like its going to happen real soon so i will keep adding the MC O5s to my system until i reach the point of diminishing returns. The MC O5s the affordable tweak that really works.
enjoy Pete
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Hi jayctoy
You will find Rick and the High Fidelity crew 5 star. Very easy to talk to. I have met Rick and crew several times at the Newport Show. Even stayed at the same hotel. Rick was great at the show and away from the show very down to earth. You will have a great time wish i could go.
Enjoy Pete
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Hello Knghifi
I purchased the orange 3 to 1 splitters at Lowes, here in Northern Ca. Its kinda funny, but they where one isle over from all the other type plugs and extension cords. The first time i went looking for them i could not find them either so i asked a clerk and he took me to the next isle over from where you think they would be. The green 3 to 1 splitters that are "L" shaped, where not on the same isle as the orange splitters. Why who knows why?
The green splitters work well also and i have used them with the orange to cut down on the length from stacking them one on another. If you look on High Fidelity Face Book Page it shows the orange splitters stacked one on top of each other. This sticks out to far in the room for me. So if you alternate them with the green"L" shaped splitters you can get more MC O5s on the line in a much shorter distance.
I was at Lowes today before this reply, and they still had the orange splitters there. I also found a 5 to 1 splitter That with using the orange and green 3 to 1 splitters you could get 15 MC O5 on the line in a much shorter distance. The 5 to 1 splitter did have a fuse on it for overload. That was resettable. Not sure if that would cause a problem for the MC O5 as they do not really draw current (somebody correct me if i am wrong,) I have a total of 28 MC O5s now. 13 each on two different lines and 2 in my Hemisphere open plugs. I will be adding more soon. Each time i have add some the sound has not disappointed me. Let know if there is any thing else that will help.
Enjoy Pete
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Hi knghifi
Let us know how your new MC O5 do. If you cook them in a different spot from where you use them it may still take a day or so for them to get up to speed where you use them.
enjoy Pete |
Hello mac48025
I have used the MC O5s with PSaudio P10 and for me plugging the MC O5s into the open plugs on the back of the P10 did not give me great results as plugging them into the same wall socket the P10 was plugged into. I have since them taken my P10 out of the loop and went with the MC 6 Hemisphere. Which after a very long break in gave a much wider soundstage and more detailed across the board. I now have a total of 28 MC O5s in my system. 13 on my dedicated 20 amp line for my amp. And 13 on the line that feeds the Hemisphere with 2 plugged into the open sockets of the Hemisphere. Each time i add a MC O5 to my system the change is for the better.
Enjoy Pete
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Hi knghifi
Happy to hear your new MC O5s are working out great for you. AT 28 i have not hit the wall of no diminishing returns. At 13 on my amp power line and another 15 on the line that feeds my front end, there has been no disappointment yet. I believe that at last years Newport Audio show Rick had 24 on one power line. There is no cure for the madness and i will be adding more later.
Enjoy Pete |
Hi ddraudt
How many do you have now? and where are they employed? I will be ordering some more or i may jump into power cord not sure yet. Let us know when you get them in your system and how it sounds.
Enjoy Pete |
Hello ddraudt
High Fidelity just made it much harder to choose. On their Face Book Page they show some pictures of speaker cable adaptors. Not much info on them. I hope they make them for both speaker end and amp end of the speaker cable. I use several pair of their speaker jumpers and it looks like you could add them on the jumpers to. Hope they have more info on them soon. Let us know how the new MC O% sound once fully broken in.
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Hi misterbritt
You can use a 3 to 1 splitter and plug them all into the 20 amp outlet that your power conditioner is plugged into. You can even stack the splitters onto of each other to add more MC O5s. I have 13 on my power line that feeds my conditioner all in the same outlet. What power conditioner are you useing?
Enjoy Pete
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Hi lak
I think it would depend on the power strip and the power cord. Some power strips add more noise to the power. The power cord would have to be very short,19 inches or less. With the 2 different 3 to 1 splitters i use i can get 13 MC O5s in a short amount of space, less than a 19 inch power cord length. The splitters are cheap compared to a good power strip and a good short power cord. The splitters work well giving me great sound upgrade across the board. If its working well and not broke no need for a change. The more MC O5s in a shorter distance seams to work well for me.
Hello misterbritt
I use to use a PSaudio P10 and found for me the more MC O5s That where plugged into the same wall plug as the P10 worked best and when plugged into the open sockets of the P10. It just did not sound as good. Later i add a MC 6 Hemisphere, That was plugged into the P10and after a long break in of the Hemisphere. That sounded pretty good, then i removed the P10 from the loop completely and the sound just took off to a much more enjoyable sound with more detail and much wider sound stage.
enjoy Pete |
Hello t_ramey
Have found they are at their best when plugged in and left alone one spot was better. Each time you move them it will take a little time to settle in where you moved them to. I do not believe moving them around hurts them in any way. Just takes longer for them to get into your sound or video system.
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High Fidelity Cables has posted on Facebook that the speaker adapters should be ready some time in June. With 2 different levels of adapters. The high end adapters will be in the $2,000.00 range and the lower level will be in the $500.00 range.
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Just ordered 4 more MC O5s, hope to have them soon. |
Hi jayctoy
They will have them. |
jayctoy
I would try and see Rick and crew the very first day of the show as they do sell out.
enjoy Pete |
jayctoy
The 3 shows i have been to, they do sell some items during the show. And yes they did have show pricing. The Show program should tell you where High Fidelity Cables is located at the show.
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4 more MC O5s arrived today, will let them break in some and report later
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t_ramey
The sound for me became much much more natural, extremely clear with no harshness at all. Background voices and instruments became much more noticeable. Base became much tighter and focused no bloat. The darkness between notes if you will was dark and detailed.Things in the background seam to float more in space with detail and clarity. Voices became fuller and richer sounding. Acoustic guitar string sounded much richer cleaner defined.
I just add 4 more MC O5s for a total of 32 in my system and love the influence they have over my system.(the last 4 are still breaking in, but i could tell in a positive way that they had been added)
enjoy Pete
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Hi knghifi
At listening to my system with the 4 new MC O5s in place with just couple hours on them. I do not think the point of diminish returns has been reach yet. Will report more after i get some more hours on them, but fore now i like what i am hearing.
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Hello aniwolfe
I could not really say. They work well for me and they are not to expensive compared to some tweaks.You can add them as you can afford it. The performance for the price is the best i have found. Easy to install or change if the need presents it. Its works with all my gear. Yes if i could afford it and find away to fit them all in i would have 68 of them.
Enjoy Pete
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HI ddraudt
I now have a total of 32 MC O5s. 15 on my line that feeds my amp and 15 plugged into the socket that feeds my Hemisphere 6 and 2 plugged into the open sockets of the Hemisphere. Will add more, but trying to save some money in the stereo budget for when the speaker adapters come out in June some time.
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Hi ddraudt
You are right to old to sell a kidney, to old for a second mortgage. Can not get the wife to be a team player and sell her kidneys. So whats a old audiophile to do? More MC O5s will probable show up in my system before the speaker adapters are out. Just trying to show some control for a couple of days any way..
enjoy Pete
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Hi knghifi
The MC 6 Hemisphere has a different magnet set up than the MC 6. It also has some damping that the MC 6 does not have.
enjoy Pete
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Hello knghifi
I have not heard of the Weizhi before your post. From what i found on line it cost 3x more than the MC 6 and still more than the Hemisphere. So yes i think the build quality should be better. It got great reviews from what i found. Could you share what your mods cost and what the turn around time is?
Keep us posted on how your modded MC 6 does. If you lived here in Northern Ca. i would say lets compare my MC 6 Hemisphere with your mods and see how they sound. Maybe you could get Rick (High Fidelity) to loan you one for a audition and compare. High Fidelity does have a 30 day money back return policy. The Hemisphere does have a long break in of 600 plus hours on mine before it sounded great.
enjoy Pete |
knghifi
Thanks for the info. I have tried small amps to my PSaudio P10 they sounded ok but better direct to the wall. My large amp is to big of a current draw to try on any conditioner that i own or have tried. So its always straight to the wall. I think that the down side of High Fidelity products is the current draw, even in their power cords no 20 amp power cord. Have you tried any MC O5s with the Weizhi? If so what did you find?
enjoy Pete |
Knghifi
As i understand it none of the High Fidelity power cords do 20 amp even the pro. |
ddraudt
No one is allowed to have a extra High Fidelity Pro IC. The Audio Gods will not be happy with you. Send it immediately to me and i will see what i can do for you and the Audio Gods...lol
Waiting on your audition with it, i can only dream
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mmcelyea
I have 15 on one dedicated 20 amp line for my amp. 17 on a line that feeds my pre amp and disc player. 15 of the MC O5s are plugged into the wall and 2 plugged into my MC 6 Hemisphere that feeds the pre amp and disc player. Grand total of 32 MC O5s. each time i add some the sound got better. I will be adding more later.
Enjoy Pete
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Hi ddraudt
Well i will be adding more MC O5s in a couple of weeks. Waiting for the speaker cable adapters to come out. If they look like what they had on their Facebook page i think they will be great. Was told they would be out in June sometime, then i heard August some time? May jump into some power cords but not at the pro level only in my dreams. If you get a spare pro power cord let me know i will store it for for free...lol |
t_ramey
Having the MC O5s on the same outlet that my amp is plugged into was a great step up. It now has 15 MC O5s on the same outlet. Using 2 different 3 to 1 splitters, so it does not stick out into the room like Ricks does. I have not tried them in other outlets on the same power line yet. Keep us posted on how the MC O5s work when scattered around the room on the same power line works for you.
enjoy Pete |
