Help with Thiel 2.4 Placement


I have been struggling to get my Thiel 2.4's placed just right. Every time I think I am getting close, I find a something that sounded "better the other way". My room LXWXH is 20 X 11.5 X 8, with a carpeted floor, concrete underneath that. Drywall everywhere else. I am using Levinson 27.5, Levinson 38S, Levinson 36S, Theta Basic II.

Thanks
dewinkle
Ah...we meet again:) If you recall, we have similar gear. Along which wall did you place the speakers? What do you think is lacking? Imaging? Bass? Are they too bright? How far are they from the side walls and the front wall? How far are you sitting from the plane of the midrange/tweeter? Are you a minimum of 8' away as Thiel recommends to allow integration of the drivers. My room is similar in dimensions and I found the speakers sounded better along the long wall. That way I could get them a larger distance from the side walls to avoid the first reflection and improve imaging.
Hi there! I don't feel like I am getting the soundstage width and height, that I know the Thiels are capable of.

I have them about 4 feet from the back wall, 21 inches from the side wall, and I am sitting about 9 feet away. Very slight toe-in.

I did spend some more time with them last night. I am sure the first order reflections are a problem, which is why I am tweaking the toe-in. I can't point them directly at my seating position because the tweeters will burn a hole right through my head. ; )

Using the long wall is going to be a hard option. I would have to put my chair and speakers right up against the wall to get barely 8 feet away.

Overall the speakers have nice balance, smooth sound, everything is almost right.

Have you worked at all with any room treatments, specifically something to deal with the first order reflection?
Have you tried pointing them straight ahead? Also, to the closest mm, position them from the front wall. I know it's a lot of effort to get this right but they seem to "lock in" when you have them postioned to this level of precision.