Help with making a decision - Fried Studio V mars


Hey, I am new to the site but have been into audio equipment since the mid 1990's. I currently have a pair of Bud Fried's studio v speakers that I bought directly from the man himself back in the late 90's. They are in amazing shape top to bottom and I am don't really want to sell them but I am moving out of the country and don't know if I really want to leave them in a storage unit either. I am not trying to sell them from the forum! I just want to get some opinions of what they are worth so I can decide if I want to keep them or not. I have not been active in any buying or selling in years and can't really find anything online as far as sold values. Any opinions would be appreciated, thanks in advance
hifiko
Agreed. I wouldn't give up my Studio Vs for twice what I paid for them. With or without the MARS system, I really enjoy them.

By the way, has anyone else heard of Studio Vs with all Focal drivers? I believe they're real Frieds because their name is on the inductors in the crossover. One woofer (an 8v412db) is shot and I can't find a replacement.
Bobana0, Bud Fried DID use Focal drivers during the time when the Studio V were produced. I know they were also used in the Valhalla System. Beyond those two, I'd have to do a bit of research.

Not that you'll be happy to read this, but here's how sourcing moved from Focal to Gefco according to what Bud told me...

Focal drivers garnered a lot of hype, praise, and came at a premium pricing level. Always wanting to produce the best loudspeakers possible within sane technological and cost constraints, Bud decided to go with them. However, he noticed something didn't seem right. The drivers didn't match their specs; not even close. They went back and forth over the course of a few orders, with each side adamant in regard to their position. To make a long story short, Bud, who spent 1/3 of the year in Europe and the UK, dropped in on Focal for a visit. He demanded they measure the model of drivers with him present. Things came out exactly as Bud experienced. Subsequently, he went in a different direction.

Thankfully, the series crossover masks a lot of wrongs, and I'd think those Studio V still sound wonderful.

If you are happen to be looking for a replacement, Fried Products was selling Shanghai Silver Flute (Yindi) drivers, but you can purchase them from Madisound. These (quite) modestly priced drivers do much better than one would otherwise expect. Obviously, you want to confirm the dimensions first before moving on them. You could also go with something from Tympany (Vifa, Peerless, ScanSpeak). The third, and most overlooked, element of what I refer to as Bud's holy trinity is low Qts drivers (series crossover and TL representing the other two), so aim for that in your replacement.
Real good info Trelia. Thanks.

A couple of years ago I actually purchased a pair of the CS2.2 woofers from Thiel because their Thiele-Small numbers were very close to the Focal woofer. Unfortunately, the baffle would need significant modification to get them to fit.

The other problem is that I would need a dual voice coil woofer if I want the MARS to work. That isn't a big priority, but it would be nice.

Right now I use the functioning Focal Studio V as the center channel in a 5.1 setup with two Gefco Studio Vs up front and a pair of Studio IVs in back. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Bobana0, thank you for the background. Understood.

If I may ask, which woofers need replacing on your Studio V?
The Studio Vs with the Gefco drivers all work perfectly.

One of the Studio Vs with the Focal drivers has a bad woofer. It is a Focal 8V412db, which is a 4 ohm 8-inch woofer with a dual voice coil. I have considered trying to get it repaired, but I don't know who to trust with it. It has a bit of an oddly shaped basket (frame) and the speaker baffle has been set up accordingly. I don't think Focal currently makes an 8-inch DVC woofer and I haven't been able to find any other suitable replacement.

By the way, the 6-inch midranges are Focal 6V011dbl (also DVC). They still work perfectly.