gallo reference 3.0 positioning?


Hey folks, need some advice from those who would know. I have been thinking these speakers a bit muffled and dull. Then i began to change the tilt back angle. . . instead of lifting the front end with the spikes for more tilt back i have them tilted back only slightly and they seem to sound better. Trying to figure out how to point the tweeter correctly at the listening position and if this is truly making the improvement I "think" i am hearing. Help if you can, thanks
djwilbourn
My components are a yba integrated with 100 watts and a heavily modified adcom dac with midrange copper interconnects and speaker cable. Ok, the setup is about 5.5 ft apart and 2 feet from the wall behind the speaker and 3 feet from one side wall and 5 feet from another. I sit about 8 feet back. I dont have a lot of flexibility on this setup because of where the TV and couches are. Toe in is probably 15 degrees or so.

Yes, I am talking about the tilt back position of the tweeter. If they are aimed too far above me it seems as though I begin to "miss" the detailed sounds that contribute significantly to air, atmosphere, and subtleties of the recording both in the treble and midrange frequencies. If the angle is more at the listening height of my ears they are not near as "dull" and "muffled" sounding. They are still on the warm side but not as unimpressive as before. My goal is for a natural and balanced sound that is open and dynamic, favoring a touch of forgiveness and bloom as opposed to etched and precise. Leatherneck, I would be interested to hear further about the dimensions and effects of the stands and how simple to make them. Thanks.

P.s. I have a whole different room with another amp and speakers that are listed in my system on audiogon. The setup is more optimum and the results thus far are more to my liking. But I think I am getting closer with the gallo setup.
Well i had a free afternoon with the speakers to move them farther apart and closer to me by a foot or so and the sound did improve so some of this may have to do with them being too close together, but the aiming of the tweeter vertically still seems to be the biggest improvement in resolution. Wish I could leave them in this position but it is the living room.
Funny, I've been having the exact same issues with my Gallos lately. I used to have them on top of polycrystal amp stands, which only raised them about 3 or 4" higher than normal, and the sound was quite nice. I recently got a pair of the Bright Star Audio Isorock 3's, and replaced the amp stands with the Isorocks. Bass was definitely improved, and resonance was decreased, but they were just firing far too high above my listening position.

Part of the problem was the fact that the front spikes were on top of a persian rug (which sits on top of the wall-to-wall carpeting underneath), while the rear spikes were simply resting on the carpet. This created a roughly 1" difference that further rake the tweeters towards the heavens. So just two days ago I switched the front (large) spikes with the rear (short) spikes, and the tweeter/midrange is now much more directed towards my ears/listening position. I found that the sound opened up tremendously, though it does seem a little "upfront" now. I guess I'm going to have to continue experimenting.
Nmuntean,
I think it is pretty critical to hearing the capability of the tweeter and midrange units. I played a little more with the positioning of the speaker in the room and got closer to "locking" the bass in and this too was very dramatic. It went from that sounds pretty good to "here is what the drums and upright basses sound like on the recording." Much more powerful and extended just with positioning.

Very fun to realize there is much more speaker here than I originally experienced. I know what you mean about upfront, but i have really started to like it. It is not bright, i have had that before. Of, course the dac really comes into play on that dimension. Happy listening.
You probably just don't like the speakers. Period. I went through this non-sense with Maggie 1.6. I'd move it here, move it there, tilt it back, forward, near, far, use resistors, no resistors. Finally, I sold them and bought new speakers and am now living happily ever after. They should be designed with the angle that will make them sound good. It shouldn't be up to you to screw around with them wondering if you are hearing acceptable sound. You should sell them and buy something that suits you better. By the way, I used to own Gallo 3.1's too and they suffered the same fate as the Maggies. I found them way better than the maggie 1.6, but not as good as my Usher 6371's