gallo reference 3.0 positioning?

One of the main points of the Mapleshade stands is that they give you MORE tilt than the stock set-up. I found this to be very desirable, but obviously you don't. FWIW, I have mine toed in slightly but not pointing directly at me.

I think the original poster is talking a bout tilting them downwards instead of upwards... Please correct me if I'm wrong

We need more information to be able to give a response to your question. How are they positioned now? Distance from each other and from your listening position? How much toe in? What are the rest of your components? How heavily damped is your room?

I have never experienced "muffled and dull" from my Gallos but pointing straight at you will increase the energy from the midrange drivers. The tweeter energy wont change much based on my experience from toe in. The rake of the speakers will be different for every room and person based on seat height, your height, and distance from the speakers.

Mine are toed in so that I can just see the inside face of the woofer (woofers facing in) so the midrange drivers are pointing just behind my chair. Distance apart is 10 feet. Distance to my chair is 11 feet. My room set up is not symetrical but both speakers are more than 5 feet into the room and more than 4 feet from the side walls. I do change the toe in from time to time for a different perspective on the size and depth of the soundstage.

I built my own bases using Mapleshade's specs and I am using Edensound heavy brass footers. The front to back difference in the height of the footers is 3/4".

I have played with the front to back height extensively and I find this to be optimum for my setup.

I also found the Mapleshade style base to be a great improvement in the overall sound from the stock base.

My components are a yba integrated with 100 watts and a heavily modified adcom dac with midrange copper interconnects and speaker cable. Ok, the setup is about 5.5 ft apart and 2 feet from the wall behind the speaker and 3 feet from one side wall and 5 feet from another. I sit about 8 feet back. I dont have a lot of flexibility on this setup because of where the TV and couches are. Toe in is probably 15 degrees or so.

Yes, I am talking about the tilt back position of the tweeter. If they are aimed too far above me it seems as though I begin to "miss" the detailed sounds that contribute significantly to air, atmosphere, and subtleties of the recording both in the treble and midrange frequencies. If the angle is more at the listening height of my ears they are not near as "dull" and "muffled" sounding. They are still on the warm side but not as unimpressive as before. My goal is for a natural and balanced sound that is open and dynamic, favoring a touch of forgiveness and bloom as opposed to etched and precise. Leatherneck, I would be interested to hear further about the dimensions and effects of the stands and how simple to make them. Thanks.

P.s. I have a whole different room with another amp and speakers that are listed in my system on audiogon. The setup is more optimum and the results thus far are more to my liking. But I think I am getting closer with the gallo setup.

Well i had a free afternoon with the speakers to move them farther apart and closer to me by a foot or so and the sound did improve so some of this may have to do with them being too close together, but the aiming of the tweeter vertically still seems to be the biggest improvement in resolution. Wish I could leave them in this position but it is the living room.