Finally heard Accuphase


I heard it at T.H.E. Show last weekend.

I was pretty shocked at how bad they were. Of course there are many variables at a show, but they were in more than one room. The sound was so wishy-washy and vague and uninvolving I couldn't get past it.

And I was hearing stacks of like $50k ,75k worth. A $3k Sugden sounds about the same, if memory serves. Or even the $8k Yamaha. More or less. But to spend that money on these amps makes no sense. Just build your own tube amp for $1500.

Whats going on with this brand?

To be fair, I also heard a $300k system that sounded more or less like a good PA system at a small concert venue that costs like, IDK $10k or something. This stuff is making no sense anymore.

clustrocasual

Keep in mind most of whats in AN is japanese. Accuphase won't use as high end japanese components inside their gear. I think AN looks amazing with the lid off. 

Solid state with tons of capacitance power tanks will always sound flat and no energy or prat. I also never found Devore speakers to engage me. I wonder how pass labs sounds compared to Accuphase. I never heard it.

Every one likes different equipment per their hearing and preference of sound. None wrong or right.

I enjoy my Accuphase E5000 immensely. I sit back and just enjoy music, too me it’s the most natural sounding amp I’ve had and in 45 years there have been a few.

 

best, bob

I recently acquired an Accuphase A-80 class A amp, which I’m comparing against my long term stablemate Vitus SS-101 as well as Audio Research REF 250 mono blocks. To my ears, in my system, and given my musical preferences, the A-80 checks all the boxes. Accuphase engineers have voiced this amp in a very specific way where they have focused on harmonics and inner details. This is not an amp that craves for your attention in a crowded audio show. If you’re looking for the ’hey-look-at-me-throw-everything-in your-face-to-get-your-attention’ type of sound, then you should cross this brand off of your list. It is not a forward sounding amp.

Having said that, this is the most musical and engaging amplifier I have owned. The way it creates music and engages you is unlike anything I’ve heard before. For the first time, I don’t miss tubes. I get all the tubey goodness -- the glow from within quality, inner details, holographic imaging (maybe not to the level of the best SET amps though), seductive midrange, and slight warmth. But, at the same time, it has all the strengths of a solid state class A amp -- i.e., sparkling details, hefty yet nuanced bass, and complete control over the woofers thanks to a damping factor of over 1000. 

Plus 10 Arafiq,

My son was up for Father’s Day this weekend and he heard everything you described in spades.

He could not believe the layering of instruments etc. He just said you lay back and enjoy the music and detail without it be in your face.

He has very nice ML speakers as I had them for years also. 
 

Be well,

Bob

@clustrocasual 

Comments like “I was pretty shocked at how bad they were” happen because everyone has a different opinion on how something sounds. When people ask questions on Audiogon about equipment, the answers can vary widely. Ultimately, the only correct answer is how it sounds to you personally.

Based on my audio show experience, I believe you cannot judge ANY audio equipment at an audio show.  There are way too many variables that interfere with hearing the real sound.   Everyone on Audiogon knows, the only way to judge a piece of equipment is to hear it in YOUR home and existing equipment.