It’s not really that science hasn’t progressed enough to be able to explain some of the things audiophiles talk about. Things like cable burn in. It’s just that science doesn’t really care about that stuff. They’ve got “bigger things” on their plate. Gibbs bosons, gravity waves, whatever. AND they’re double parked. There is no time. One reason why science will not entertain audiophile stuff like quantum chips and wire directionality and fixing audio systems by telephone is because science thinks it’s above such considerations. Those guys want to talk about “real science.” They don’t want to get involved with a bunch of whackos. You know, like Einstein.
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Neverending Pissing Contest
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Wow! That was fast! You’re on the ball today, bus boy. 🚌
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“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”
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Are you hungry, bus boy? 🚌 Open wide, here comes Mr. Airplane.
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That’s why air is such a good dielectric, silly goose. It sounds good right out of the gate. Not everything takes the same period to burn in. Everyone knows that. |
Then why is your nose purple, bus boy?
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Do I hear the soft refrain of dueling banjos? 😳
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Just hold your nose whilst eating, Flyboy. Problem solved! 😛
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A vacuum would be faster. Maybe Flyboy has some to spare. 🚌 😴
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That’s interesting. If I recall correctly Michael Green of Tuning fame sometimes bakes cables and lots of other things in the oven, controlling temperature and time, obviously. I tried it with some CDs a few years ago and think I heard an improvement. I’ll try again today at 200 F for ten minutes maybe even twenty minutes. So, I guess you never know. Nothing says lovin’ like something from the oven. 🍪 🍪 🍪
of course, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that the home freezer (48 hrs) can provide a big percentage of real cryo treatment, not only for metals but almost anything you can think of - CDs, LPs, CD players, cones, power cords, cassettes (!), Blu Ray discs, HDMI cables, etc. |
Marx quotes,
“Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.”
“I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it.”
“I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.”
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Are you telling me the best idea anyone had on this thread was a scam? Well, color me impressed!
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Uh, oh, looks like someone just experienced the famous glubson wit and irony. In fact this whole thread has become a study in wit. Or half of one anyway.
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Riddle. What do you call a lawyer who’s up to his neck in wet cement?
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The real question is, would Einstein be on board the burn-in train? 🚂 Recall Einstein was not (rpt not) on board the quantum mechanics train. He missed that train. Even thought he won the Nobel prize for the photoelectric effect, which is pure quantum mechanics.
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glupson
So I am not the only one to doubt Einstein as the biggest science star that we made him into?
Don't put words in my mouth. I think Einstein deserves to be the big science super star ⭐️ he is simply for turning Newtonian physics on its head. He gets a pass on any mistakes he might have made.
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Mmmmmm, Scooby Snacks for bozo 😋
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More Scooby Snacks for bozo 🤡
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Nothing funnier than two dudes eating Scooby Snacks. |
Maybe glubson should call NASA or AES or MIT and see if they’d be interested in getting involved in researching cable burn in. In fact I nominate glubson to be the official cable burn in coordinator. Be sure and report back when you have the answer. 👨🚀 And while you’re at it see if they can get to the bottom of fuse directionality, why cryogenics improves the sound, and why premium fuses improve the sound. We’re all dying to know.
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Gee, what makes you say that? It’s the old Br’er Rabbit and Tar Baby routine. And he does it so well. But he’s a two trick pony. That and his always delightful, What about this, what about that? routine.
After all this time most people don’t know how the internet works.
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Did I do that? My subtle irony must have gotten lost. 🎃 |
Reliable jibber jabber from glubson and busboy 🚌
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No need to guess or try to snow us with super scientific lingo. We already know how burn in works. It’s not that complicated. It’s been explained a bunch of times. Shut the cave door and back to pigmy country!
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The legacy of inhaling too many aviation fuel fumes. 👨🏻✈️ 🧠🍳
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Many of us are engineers? But not you, one assumes. Just going by what you say, no offense. You haven’t made any technical argument. Plus any real engineer, especially one experienced in this sort of discussion, would have certainly recognized Feynman’s famous quote. You brought a knife to a gun fight.
If you don’t actually HAVE a counter argument then maybe it’s time to pack your bags and head back to AudioKarma. You have to explaining to do. You know, like things over on A-Gon are a lot tougher than you guys thought. 😬
“Shut the cave door and back to pigmy country!” 🦍
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lanceo
"Break in" implies there is change, as in a perceived improvement. To effect that change it follows there must be a physical change to a passive component operating well below it's design limitations... in this case the wire. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! If your premise were true, we would be awash in "improvements" to Ohm's law.
Yes, I am an engineer. No, I'm not closed minded. Im' just not inclined to re-prove established facts whenever a doctor, lawyer or an executive banker takes notice of what I do, day in and day out.
>>>>Well, goodie for you but nobody said it’s the wire. That’s a Strawman argument. Oh, I forgot, engineer’s don’t know what a Strawman argument is.
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maritime, if you’re pretending to be an ignorant and pompous ass you’re doing an excellent job.
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Speaking of autism, I’ve oft opined on these fora, gentle readers, that Asperger’s syndrome, a mild and common form of autism, seems to rear its head rather often here. Perhaps what is commonly referred to as audio nervosa is actually our old friend, Asperger’s, in disguise. Hyper focus on cables or tweaks, especially the more outrageous ones, seem to invite the same sort of obsessive and cumpulsive behavior as an escape from reality as math and science in the example just described. You know, things like Tuning, CD Tweaks, PWB Tweaks, vibration isolation, cables, fuses, But not in a bad way. At least not usually. 😛
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Obviously if the cables aren’t in the right direction you probably won’t hear any differences after breaking them in. The advantage of burn-in will be masked by the distortion. Ditto power cords. This is not rocket science, folks. 🚀
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Cargo cultist alert!! 🚨 By the way, god gave you two ears for a reason. |
I said cables not helmets, glubby. |
Go to the head of the class! 👨🏻🎓
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It’s perhaps not obvious to the casual observer 👀 but the power cord should be in the right direction, too. Actually, all wiring and cables including the digital cable and Ethernet cable and HDMI cable and of course fuses, should be in the right direction, too. 🔜 Even a stubborn mule can hear the difference. Yes, I realize this is supposedly a hot button topic 🥵 but the only debate is in the mind 🧠 of the pseudo-scientist. 🤔
As the little mice in Babe sing, that’s the way things are.
Pop quiz: why does AudioQuest highly polish the surface of their solid conductor cables? |
