Different between Shindo Masseto & Monbrison Pres


Dear friends,
Would someone tell the different between the Shindo Masseto & Monbrison Pre-amplifiers. I am told that the two amps have the same tubes, same design and same look. most important, they sound alike.

Please advise. Thanks

Sum
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MONBRISSON
ECC82--Line Stage
6BM8---Line Stage Regulator
EF86---Phono Stage
6BM8---Phono Stage REgulator
6X4----Power Supply Rectifier

MASSETO
LCP86---Line Stage
6189W and 12AT7--Phono Stage
2 each 6X4--Power supply Rectifiers

Info from 6 Moons and Stereophile
Just an info based on the look inside my Monbrison:
entry 2 6X4
line 2 ECL94s (fantasy name, an ECL tube nevertheless)
phono stage: 2 ECC82/12AU7 and 2 ECC83/12AX7

The former Monbrison version without window incorporated 2 x EF86 Phono Input, 1 x 12AU7/6189W Phono Output, 2 x ECL82 Line.

I haven't seen any Massetto, as it has not officially been imported in the EU.

Hi @milesandmiles ,

How are you? May I ask you to share the tube positions for the 2 12AU7 and 2 12AX7 tubes as I forgot to mark the positions after removing the tubes for checking.  I have the same Monbrison.

Many thanks 

See Meng