It seems that natural immunity is very strong... https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab884/6381561 Is it surprizing? No, because human survives million of years with their immune system... Only global corporations in the need to sell vaxx for ALL at all cost could think otherwise and trust their own lies... Call it God or nature, i dont give a dam, but science is at the feet of a giant which no one can see more than some toes in his feet ....No man can play god.... It is not religious matter proclamation but only the evidence of day to day hubris driven by money and power that play god in a corner ... Is it a united conspiracy to control human being ? Not at all, it is what has been known by the name of "mafia" for a long time now, only usual human criminal activities united for an instant in times... Is Gates an evil genius with Fauci ? Not at all, only intelligent men whom became idiots because driven by power and money...Sorry... I will reserve the name genius to Archimedes or Ramanujan or Grothendieck or Tesla or Einstein... |
I dont wish ill will toward anyone jnless they hate vacuum tubes, thats a bridge too far. ;-) If you like tubes take a look at Berning Zotl amplifier...It is the only upgrade i dare to wish for my Sansui... I cannot afford it for now and perhaps forever but they are not so much costly anyway.... This Berning look like a genius.... A completely new tube technology...It is not often that someone rethink tube .... I never listen to it, i only dream after reading all reviews and articles... I dont need upgrade but sometimes something tempt me more than tacos and jalapenos.... Longevity tubes, no heat, and power...With my past tube amplifier i hated the short life of tubes, and the heat , no more with Berning... The S.S. Sansui AU 7700 i own has already a tubelike marvellous organic sound....The Berning tube ZOTL will be more Solid State sound.... A paradox.... 😁😊😎 |
Maybe you can be patient and a Linear Tube Audio LTA amplifier might show up on the preowned market at a great price. Its my understanding LTA, which utilizes Berning designed circuits, provides a large helping of the Berning magic. You are right.... The problem is less money i guess but the way i have recreated my audio system embeddings which is so great that i am in fear to buy anything new and thinking after that " so little for so much money"...I am already in heaven with no after tought about sound...Not perfect at all but so good!... Acoustic controls is really more powerful than any upgrade of dac or amplifier and sometimes even of some speakers upgrade.... The reason is simple there is LESS difference between relatively good well chosen dacs and amplifiers than the comparative difference between a non treated and acoustically uncontrolled room and a treated and controlled room, nevermind the gear in it, if this gear is already good and well chosen for sure... This is my surprizing experience after my feverish 2 years experiments in listening... |
I find all this anti-vax stuff baffling. I got my shots. Barely felt the pin prick. Took 20 minutes. Felt a bit tired for a day. Feel great now 5 months later. What have you read about covid before your decision? It takes me a full 3 months to read and make my decision.... These doctors below are those i read about among others...Luc Montagnier or Didier Raoult are not there nor many others...But the list is interesting if you dare to listen to them.... I dont think they are antivaxx clowns...I dont doubt Fauci is a vaxx clown tough... https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/02/heroes-of-the-pandemic/ |
Choosing to not take the vaccine is a privilege and one that obviously comes at a cost. How "cute" from you is this way to present a complete irrational epidemiological decision which was push upon us by our dear corporations and which cost the well living of thousands and thousands of people.... Your "privilege" ressemble the totalitarian offered choices.... You lack if not of brain at least what is call heart or empathy.... |
America dont respect Nuremberg code anyway....The code has been replaced by captain America...
They think that it was about "nazi" in the past...
The world is on the brink of war... And we are not able to stay rational with a " light" crisis like covid...
Wait for the real crisis to come, nuclear war, meteor or climate change, the one for which no manual of epidemiology would be of any help...
Why is it so hard to understand that with an airborne mutating virus Mass Vaxx without treatment is insane, and treatment need the help of a vaxx for older or at risk people...
I am flabbergasted by stupidity on this scale....
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It is in fact perfectly legal and science is not being utterly disregarded and having conditions of employment are totally normal. There is nothing irrational about taking a life saving vaccine what’s irrational is not taking the vaccine and acting like it’s a conspiracy against you. And sorry not taking the vaccine does not make you disabled not sure how the ADA applies? Legal is not synonymus with legitimate... Bureaucratic corporate decisions are initiated most of the times by GREED not by science... The vaccine is proven to be not always life saving for all and the long term effect are unknown with a technology NEVER tested AT ALL in the long range... Read before typing words... There is no conspiracy against us, only a criminal cartel of corporations who lied about the existing treatment to promote only their costlier NEW vaxx for URGENCY reason and NO POSSIBLE TREATMENT supposedly ....No need to use "conspiracy" to deligitimate your opponent...Or using the word "antivaxxer".... If you had a light bulb illumination when reading about EARLY treatment efficacy and their suppression and about the complementary epidemiological function of early treatment and vaccination with an airborne mutating virus you would be less straight on your horse with unvaccinated people here ... The artificial division between vaxx and non vaxx is created articicially by this totalitarian stupid Mandate ... Are you able to think? Or you enjoy the division... Or you prefer the world divided in 2 parts with yourself "proud" to be in the right part...Like all sleepwalker... |
I’m so sick of leftists crying out of one side of their mouths Sorry but it is not a "leftist" conspiracy...You are deluded if you think so....Macron in France is not a leftist for example...America is only a little part of the world....Sorry.... You act like those who use the epithet "anti vaxxer" easily.... I dont want to be associated with gangs politic here left or right... Biden or Trump are clowns from the same cloth moved or controlled by corporate greed in a way or in another... Left or right are for historian and children in school... The problem facing humanity cannot be solved by childish opposition especially these kind of politic... i will stick with reason.... I apologize to being rude here but i must speak my mind... You are a good man and i sincerely dont want to hurt you.... Please try to understand me here.... I hate accusations, be it by leftist or rightwinger... It is pure stupidity coming from unconscious programmation of the mind.... I dont play that game... |
The only question I have is, if they will be able to blame the failure of the vaccines on the ones that didn't take it? They are trying to sell that story, it's gonna be a hard push.
But then again, their audience is extremely gullible if nothing else.
I am afraid you are right... «Stupidity or the love of blinders is an acquired habit not an innate quality or taste» -Anonymus Smith «Freedom dont sell well, blinders did»-Groucho Marx 🤓 |
Which leaves you folks with individual choice to not take vaccine. No one is denying you this choice, you only have to pay the cost of losing some level of privilege. Your post make no sense... The vaccination decision is an act of freedom... Which means NO employers or state or President can FORCE people to take this choice at the cost of their job if not... The medical and legal reason are simple: the massive vaccination DECIDED by authorities is not a scientific decision but a political one... You dont seem to understand elementary epidemiology at all... An airborne mutating virus like sars-2 is NOT a polio virus for example...We need vaxx for at risk people and treatment for the majority of healthy people, like in another airborne mutating virus the "flu"... This is reason...And elementary epidemiology fact ... Forbidding all low cost treatments and promoting MASS vaccination is a crime.... |
You people are monsters.
They have blinders like working horses or sheeps lead by fear....They are not monsters....The monsters lead corporations .... |
No. It is a valid hypothesis. My guess is that your instinct to survive would override political motivation to stir up trouble where none exists. Wow.... Instinct to survive? No need to speak about what is at play here anymore... Sorry your hypothesis make no sense.... And your reasoning about the decision to be vaxx or not to be vaxx, being only a politically motivated wise or unwise decision compared to the survival instinct is totally preposterous... The decision to be vaxx or not is a complex risk calculus decision motivated and illuminated by ALL nemerous factors at play... It is mostly and mainly a political decision only for dunces.... Then opposing political decision to instinct here is simplistic ..... |
If all things were equal with one exception—the disease was ebola. Would you take the vaccine then? Your question is meaningless.... Try to guess why? Even if our friend is an antivaxx or against this particular vaxx only, MASS MANDATED VACCINATION for an airborne mutating virus make no sense on all front...Selective but free choice vaccination for people ar risk make sense, treatment for the others like with the flu....Threatening people and excluding them from their work is a crime... |
I would be against forced vaccines even if the Death rate was 50000%.
Great words thanks It remind me of free Socrates... I work all my life in a job i was loving so much that loosing it would have been to lost my life... I am truly sorry for you and this useless sufferring imposed by stupidity and greed.... |
Too stupid ... I will stay mute...
No i will not stay mute.... I will tell you a story:
" Dear mr. Rostoff your friend did not get fired of his job or put in a concentration camp, his employer and our comrade Stalin give him a choice, he could have accepted what is recommended and keep his job" |
Joining late. RNA is not dna and can’t become dna. As all fragment of rna in muscle for a few hours can’t change your genome. Only provoke an immune response. If you choose not to be immunized, so be it, but please don’t misinform. I’ll try to make an analogy. You have a 1000 wpc solid state amp. You add one rectifier tube that isn’t needed. Is it a tube amp? Are you reciting a mantra or a propaganda piece? It takes 5 second to look after a scientist pick by chance who knows well that the spike protein dont safely sleep in the arm and could be dangerous with unknown long term effect... they are other studies also with less confidence than you and Dr. Fauci... I dont know why? 😁 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348412961_SARS-CoV-2_Spike_Protein_Elicits_Cell_Signaling_in_Human_Host_Cells_Implications_for_Possible_Consequences_of_COVID-19_Vaccines https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBretWeinstein%2Fstatus%2F140847976582...https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&u... Are they all deluded conspirationist clowns? OH! yes dont read that, all the fact checkers on google say that they are conspirationist...Anyway even one of the top living virologist in the world, the Nobel Luc Montagnier is a conspirationist for the corporate google and for Pharmas... He wrote a preface to the book "Plagues of corruption", by arch ennemy of Dr. Fauci Judy Mikovits... Trust google at your own risk and repeat the mantra... But science is science, a new vaxx technology UNVERIFIED for long term effect is what it is, a new vaxx technology UNVERIFIED for long term effect.... Mantra or not..... Between Luc Montagnier the real discoverer of the HIV virus and the proven thief Gallo and his friend in corruption Tony Fauci which are on opposite sides again after the HIV wars in this Covid wars, my choice is clear.... |
Maghister stop with the Nazi/Holocaust references and stop now.
Because you dont seem to understand the content of my post i apologize and i correct it.... Do you catch it better now? |
Once again mahgister, thank you. Dont thank me please , they will think that i have voted for Trump... 😁😊 I listen to many other videos of Dr. McCullough and he is a man of his words.... He moved the heart....Glad you enjoy it...Illuminating videos... in his field speciality he is top in the world.... |
@mahgister. All things being equal includes "ALL nemerous factors at play..."
By reducing the argument to the absurd, the only difference being the severity of the disease, then all that is left is the notion that you believe you are being coerced into taking a preventative measure to save lives. It wouldn’t be an issue if the disease was horribly fatal for 90% of victims. You’d be begging for the vaccine. i dont want to discuss anymore... But think about that in your head: What if the new vaxx technology not only is not able to erase the disease but is the cause of long term adverse problems? i do not even count actual adverse events for now.....They are numerous ... Put that in your head and stir it in your head.... Comparing covid-19 to polio or the black death has no meaning here for the present discussion.... |
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For now if someone want to change the color of the day and listen to a true unbelievable documentary listen to this almost 4 hours and say to my face that this film does not beat most hollywood movie... It is about Bruno Groening, one of the most verified case of a faith healing in history....the story is UNBELIEVABLE and anyway true with more testimonies of all kind about all diseases... Anything to see but Dr. Fauci.... Yes.... I hear the sceptic here, this is pure religious non sense OK, then try to debunk this Bruno Groning if you can.... I could not.... Help me....And listen to this 2 videos if you dare.... The PHENOMENON BRUNO GROENING – Documentary Film part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNlXuclHhVc&t=1554s Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpafJBwQZRs By the way if they are dunces here by bad chance , i must say for them that i dont suggest in this post to go to faith healer instead of taking a vaxx...Is it clear? I just proposed a marvellous true story... I refuse the vaxx because i have reason to not take it after my covid natural immunization and anyway i dont trust this new tech which has never been tested....Too much adverse events... I am sad that many people loose their job because they had no trust in this new technology or simply they are not ignorant and read a lot about it and decide that this "vaxx" cannot be for them.... I am sad that so many people are unable to understand what is at stake, what is at play, and what is the goal.... «History is not blind it is a spiraling wheel»-Anonymus Smith « What do you call a kid’s wheel ride that goes somewhere?»-Groucho Marx 🤓 «I called it a miracle brothers : evolution becoming history»-Groucho Marx 🤓 «Is it not the "omega" point ? » - Harpo Marx « You are all dunces, it is only a simple spiral»- Gummo Marx «Even in mathematics we dont know what a spiral is...Or better said the object "spiral" is like a fractal impossible to pin on one point, it escape limiting definitions»- A mathematician whom i dont recall the name |
"Dr" Vernon Coleman a GP who lost his license in the 80s and is a newspaper columnist not a scientist, and RFK Jr who is sadly a rabid anti-vaxxer are your "authorities"? No... Luc Montagnier A nobel prize winner...On one side...With many other great scientist like Robert Malone creator of the mRNA tech... or Geert vanden Bossche.... On the other side Fauci associate with Robert Gallo the PROVEN thief against Montagnier in the HIV war... Now the same players against each other in the covid war... But think about it: Fauci command a science budget research of 40 billions dollars, Montagnier, Malone,Vanden Bossche had no money they do research....Now think who is the most powerful? I will not speak about Gates bigger budget and his association with Fauci... It will be too conspirationist for this thread....If you vwant to call Fauci a scientist you are deluded... Only these name and their history is enough to understand what is at stake...If you read books....Not youtube or google fact chekers..... |
I see the same four or five posters pontificating ad nauseam, on endless repeat. You are right and i recognize your accusation of "pontification"...I sometimes pontificate.... 😁😊 A bad habit coming from my years with students...I am not without defect...I am glad to say you are right when you are....It is also part of my character...Take note of it.... You offer up information culled from sources self determined as delivering truth. You never question your sources, any and all opposing sources subjected to character assassination. But here you describe yourself not me... Sorry.... The one who question his source read not only mainstream information like most people who take the vaxx obligation like it was a natural thing to do, the one who question consensus read ALL possible opinions even Robert Kennedy or Geert vanden Bossche and not only Fauci... The one who insult in his first move those who think differently are the one who laugh with " conspiracy theorist" labelling accusation, not me.... Try to debunk Geert vanden Bossche confront his knowledge with what Fauci say...It is called thinking... 1+1=2 https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/ |
Studying is not claiming to be true...
What is the emerging perspective for human kind?
Is big pharma instructing us is saying the truth, only the truth?
It is not necessary to be paranoiac to doubt them...Read about their history.... Dont listen sports events for a month... Dont upgrade your audio system....Dont even embed it, only read what we called books...
Simple questions are asked ...
Who among you are able to deny the new perspective: censorship, vaccinations mandated at the global scale, irationality in the conduct of medecine and epidemiology, veiled threats against reputed scientists, and all the other numerous facts....It is not even necessary to debate micro clotting, or spike toxicity or not, or the number of adverse events....
Denying that is very human....
Ostrich and men are almost alike with their common DNA....
Dinosaurs were denying fire to the last minute...
But relax, love each other, death dont exist....
Only suffering for few instants....
i know suffering could be longer for some tough by the way they create their own hell...
There is no paradise or hell which has not been created by men themselves...
God gives us the keys and walk with us...
In the infinite....
The only judge that cannot be bought is yourself.... You can argue with God and bought it by love like Abraham and some other did .... You cannot argue with your own consciousness...
I apologize for my rant here....
But times are strange and most of my friends are here now .....
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@mahgister - if you knew that safe and effective treatments for Ebola exists, and existed before a new Ebola vaccine was introduced.
Would you be more inclined to take the known safe medications (that have been used many millions of times over decades and succeeded with a high level of safety in the world of performance, proven even safe for pregnancy) over a relatively new technology that has reports of being unsafe from many personal, and professional sources? Good post... Sometimes clearly asking the right question is also answering it... It is like thinking out loud... Ebola ,polio, bubonic plague, are viruses that dont mutate at the same speed than flu and coronavirus...Vaxx dont have the same efficacy here with flu and coronaviruses... What do we do with flu : we vaccinate the old and we treat early the rest... Coronavirus is not the flu indeed, a worst disease, but the same cure is there to be pondered: early treatment and risk benefit vaccinations for those which own a compromised immune system that cannot win over the virus WORLDWIDE not for the rich ONLY... Is it not simple even me know this.... Then why MANDATED FORCED VACCINATIONS FOR ALL if not, no jab, no job? Did you not see the results of fear on the economic transmission belt? Asking the question is answering it... No need to conspiracy theory here, simple real criminal usual activities will do the job....Read books... In our history criminal activities benefit always from technological progress... It is not a conspiracy it is business as usual.... People dont learn swiftly.... After more than a century Edison is always credited and others with the invention of only one man....Open your journals and read... Where is truth? No conspiracy here.... Criminal activity business as usual.... If you think i am a conspiracy theorist i will agree.... But if this is so you are an ostrich.... I dont mind about the calling, the names.... Truth has no robe.... |
You wrote the most terrifying post i read here because you stay very factual...
But writing clearly about this problem illuminate it...
You just describe Orwellian society cleaning itself...
Are you a conspirationist?
By the way i hate nobody here, i like discussion, and i try to understand everyone...
But we cannot undo seeing....
your post illustrate my point....
We cannot undo seeing...
« Seeing is thinking with the 2 arms and legs»-Anonymus Smith
« Even the blind go where they see»-Groucho Marx 🤓
«What you see is where you will go»-Anonymus Cherokee hunter |
The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a debater attempts to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.
The term was coined by Eugenie Scott, who named it after creationist Duane Gish. Sometimes truth only need common sense and a bit of reason... Why EARLY low cost treatments used worldwide with success has been censored here? It is not an argument.... It is a question... But beware, asking it makes of it a possible concrete argument in the fictive narrative of the corporations.... |
Thanks for this moving post...By the way your situatiion with your wife is the same as mine....You thinking about it is the same as mine...
The only difference is the 2 vaxx did not induce visible secondary effects for my wife...For now....
My best to you and your wife.... |
After almost 900 posts on this messed up thread Messing up a thread is saying something that is not an argument but an untruthful qualification... You post mess this thread... Other posts of people with a different perspective than mine at least presented some arguments...They constituted the thread by participation.... Your post is only your "feeling"... We dont need to espress it to mess the thread if you had no arguments... |
This has been proven false, he did not say it. What he seems to actually be saying is that mass vaccination is bad because vaccines cause virus’s to mutate, that is as far as I know true to a certain extent it’s not the same thing as him saying the vaccines don’t work.
However his statement that deaths have followed vaccinations in every country is false. Good post...Malone say the same thing than Montagnier and Vanden Bossche about virus evolutive mutating pressure...Saying that they are anticaxx is a lie by the facts chekers working for google... By the way for those who loose their job, google need fact chekers...It is very simple to do apply... 😁😊 But the Atlantic piece article distort completely what Malone is and say...Typical desinformation... You are perfectly right for the rest...... |
Mahgister, are you a bot? Are you sure?
i will let you decide.... Asking the question say more about you than about me... Beware when you ask a question to someone... And why are you troubled by discussions here? Instead of saying that i am a bot....Say at least something true... Someone above say that sometimes i "pontificate"... I give it his credit.... be wise if you can.... |
And my point above was that those who chart an intentional course to become martyrs, sincere or stubborn-it doesnt matter which, typically pay a high price. Your perspective are very interesting indeed.... I eat tacos with you ....They are delicious indeed... And suddenly it seems clear to me that you are right about stubborn or martyr decision makers who pay the price... But ostrichs in the sand and sheeps walking in pack are other part also of this story... Sometimes others make decision for us....And we let them doing it mute.... |
Somewhere in between are the ones left who write history. Dont believe the factual small history.... It is a fable.... Most facts are distorted or wrong... Look at consciousness history at a more high scale... Truth is there without robe... Those who wrote small history are the victorious it is very well known...Not the best man or the worst.... The victorious... Go in the street of America and ask them which one invented almost all electrified America by itself? The answer will no be a Serbo- Croatian immigrate coming from France with the false promises of Edison.... Small history is a pack of half truths.... Many americans think that Robert Gallo is co-discover of the HIV virus with Montagnier because the dispute was resolved diplomatically between France president and US president...The truth proven by inquiry says Gallo is a thief...A friend of Fauci by the way.... Here we are with 2 pandemies and the 2 same arch enemy at 40 years of distance face one another again ....Fascinating story indeed... Do we solve scientific fact and truth by politic agreeement or papal decision like in the Montagnier Gallo case? Asking the question is answeering it... The greater history reveal truth .... No conspiracy here, only the same criminal thieves lying.... It is simple to verify about Tesla.... The life of Tesla like Archimedes life, or like Ramanujan life is unbeliveable but true... People cannot believe extraordinary events man or extraordinary science... Our room are walls who protect us from the extraordinary.... I just realize that i "pontificate" here ....Sorry for my imperfect character.... Oups! Sorry... |
I dont know if Dr. McCullough is right...
But it is not an armchair bureaucrat doctor here...
If he is wrong it will not be because he lied...
At least...
Myself i trust him completely...
Before taking this vaxx or not i read 3 months non stop....
No need to impose my decision to others...
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Here is the problem with anecdotal evidence, I’ve had bouts of vertigo off and on throughout my life. I’ve been fully vaccinated since March 22nd, since then not a single bout of vertigo. See how that works? Go to VAERS... think... rethink about long term "possible" consequences which are unknown... And anecdote dont count , too much anecdotes draw a story... my main argument is not anecdotes tough...Not even the mass of anecdotes about adverse events.. My main argument is the evident criminal stupidity of promoting MASS vaccination for a MUTATING AT HIGH SPEED coronavirus and at the same times erasing and censoring low cost effective EARLY treatment that works... Ponder that, instead of debating about adverse events claculus.... VAXX+ treatment= rationality Mass forced vaxx only = working stupidity if it is a mutating virus |
Just watched a little of that video and at the end the “doctor” claims it was planned ahead of time, even getting death charts on CNN. Lotta mentally ill people running around. As the saying goes you’re entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts. This is perhaps the lowest information thread I’ve read here. I think I leaned more in a a Kenjit post. YOu just throw the baby with the bath waters here... Planned event or not, the story of this doctor is clear as day....His observations on the front are meaningful...Dont cherry pick some fact here and judge all the video with this... By the way the event reenactment exercise paid by Gates is verifiable truth...The remdesivir and intubation policy of Fauci in hospital is true... This did not means there is a conspiracy...This only prove total greed and stupidity.... We need an official criminal inquiry to prove that there was conspiracy....Criminal activities here tough makes no doubt save for sheeps and children... Dont throw the baby with the bath waters.... Use your brain not your ready made opinion about conspiracies... Dont mock other poster which are not here by the way, kenjit, me or others... |
Peter McCullough appears to basically have no expertise in infectious diseases and a total self promoter.
https://vaxopedia.org/2021/05/08/did-a-highly-cited-doctor-say-that-the-government-is-scrubbing-covi... Vaxopedia... It is like wikipedia... where anybody with weights at his disposal adjust balance... Are you able to think by yourself? Did you know the dude who figure out how to solve most problems on earth and which put his money where is his mouth? Vaccination of the world... Bill Gates.... Complete ignoramus in science....A geek... And you trust his vaxopedia media more than a Doctor who himself devise with few others the early treatment response ... Trust the internet yes. AFTER brain work and BEFORE brain work not INSTEAD of brainwork... |
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I predict this thread soon to be authoritative source for solution to defeat covid. Collating so many preeminate authorities within a single thread will certainly enlighten the ’quack’ scientific community. Guys, thank you for your service to humanity.
And so, I too am headed to the bar, drink my sorrows away after being made aware of the devil’s poison living within my body from vaccine. Your answer is pathetic... You never answer to my argument: Massive vaccination of ALL and forced one CANNOT solve the problem WITHOUT early treatment ALSO... Then why is working early treatment censored and forbid by corporations/institutions in america? Why contrary to basic epidemiological science in the case of coronavirus who mutates greatly and are airborne transmissed, why not using basic low cost treatment for all and vaccinations for the compromised owner of weak immune system? This is 2 questions.... Not a "quack" solution to defeat covid...Think instead of devising strawman argument... And yes perhaps your shot in your body is a bad idea.... NOBODY knows...This is precisely the problem your blindness will evacuate with wiskey... |
The association between hesitancy and education level followed a U-shaped curve with the 143 lowest hesitancy among those with a master’s degree (RR=0.75 [95% CI 0.72-0.78] and the 144 highest hesitancy among those with a PhD (RR=2.16 [95%CI 2.05-2.28]) or ≤high school 145 education(RR=1.88 [95%CI 1.83-1.93]) versus a bachelor’s degree.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.full.pdf
Here is the study. Please stop It is not a mystery that the most hesitant are the most educated or the most exploited and the victims... All the rest is mostly sheeps... Few years ago i go to a doctor and speaking about books he said to me that he had no time to read save scientific litterature... He give to me for proof a big pamplet with graphs... It was a publicity free pamphlet from pharma corporation... Sellers masquareding as scientist or using science for profit... The first three causes of deaths in america are heart disease first and cancer, malpractices and accidents are third.... But think about it: how many heart disease and cancer are induced by malpractice in medecine and agriculture and in pharmaceutical greed ? The main cause of death is probably science replaced or steer by greed.... 😁😊 |
I see the Bots are still posting nonsense. Has the topic shifted to “quantum” vaccines yet?
Later!
Your post is not a model to go on with ... If you insult someone with the epiteth "bot" try to give arguments... Otherwise any neutral reader will qualify you with the epiteth "idiot" I prefer to be a bot... |
You are obviously intelligent but you’re so far down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories your intelligence is being applied to useless and potentially harmful endeavors. I am very tired of the use "conspiracy theorist" to qualify Malone ,Montagnier, Mccullough, Geert Vanden Bossche, Vandana Shiva, and the list go on... Are you a parrot of google and Bill And Tony? And here again the accusation of killing people with erroneous complotist facts... Same thing i live through here with Raoult and HQC in the early crisis... Who was killing people for 18 months with erroneous intubation procedure and remdesivir waiting for the new "vaxx" and censorship of HQC and proven false study in the LAncet about HQC ? Who are the killers? |
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It seems that the people who dont have arguments save strawman arguments, or conspirationist accusation and propaganda mantra like "this vaxx is safe" are mute...
Not one argument has been answered to and demolish... For sure...
All the vaxx massive campaign is based on lies ....
All audio marketting is based most of the times on half truths also...
Audiophile experience cost nothing, if we can embed righfully any relatively good audio gear...
Why?
Because no gear system sound the same in different electrical grid, on different mechanical condition, and in diversely acoustically controlled room...
Any disease could be beaten with the right vaxx yes but not without the necessary EARLY treatment....
Why ?
Because any population is divided in different age groups and different immune status groups , then we need also Vaxx and treatment to adress this varieties after a risk/benefit calculus ....
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Mahgister, is your favorite film "Blade Runner"? my favorite film is the : The Saragossa Manuscript of Wojciech Has.. but i admire Welles, Herzog, and Kubrick... The book writer who inspired the film was a polish scientist in the 18Th century , Jan Potocki, was a genius.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsVIjnGr_vQ Like all people i like "Blade Runner" and the writer also is a almost genius... |
The level of narcissism I accept the criticism of narcissism... Fine... Like the accusation of pontification... I am lucid about myself.... But wait, you are here right next to me attacking my character, but where are your arguments against my main point? The fact of being a "narcissist pontificator" has nothing to do with the value of my arguments? Save for an idiot... then answer to my arguments... |
The problem is they called a "vaccine" something that is completely new therapy... But promoted and sold like old vaccination working to ERASE COVID but without any long term studies and anyway with no idea about the number of adverse events and their extension...
It cannot erase covid by itself like a flu vaccine cannot eradicate flu...
Worst than a flu vaxx the new vaxx work with a new way and transform the body into being a manufacture of an unnatural protein then toxic...
There is worst than that, if we study the history of vaccination in the century but it will be too much for the moment....
Simple mind call research, conspiracy, obeying their corporate master anyway....
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last toughts of an epidemiologist: 2 minute read.... 😊 is it a conspirationist? I dont think so.... https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/keep-asking-the-wrong-questions-and-we-ll-never-tame-this-pandemic Keep asking the wrong questions and we’ll never tame this pandemic Experts, Public Health authorities and politicians are all the time asking the wrong questions. Questions like: “Who shed more, the vaccinated or unvaccinated?” or “Who is better protected, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated?” are simply completely irrelevant when it comes to understanding the real challenge posed by this pandemic. Everyone should know by now that ALL of us could shed ‘more’ or ‘less’ virus than anyone else or could be ‘more’ or ‘less’ susceptible than anyone else, regardless of our vaccination status. So, what are then the right questions to ask? The right questions ‘they’ should be asking themselves is: “How can we impact viral infection/ transmission in ways that dramatically and durably reduce overall viral spread of more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants in the population (i.e., in all of us)?” and “How can we impact host immunity in ways that dramatically and durably increase overall protection against disease in the population (i.e., in all of us)?” The answer to both questions is actually rather straightforward and simply based on common sense: Population-level viral spread in highly vaccinated populations could dramatically and durably be reduced by massive antiviral chemoprophylaxis of all healthy individuals, subsequently followed by enrichment of these populations with healthy, unvaccinated individuals (hence why we will need a baby boom and encourage the influx of young & healthy unvaccinated immigrants). Population-level immune pressure in highly vaccinated populations could dramatically and durably be reduced by massive early treatment of all individuals contracting Covid-19 disease, which would (automatically) be followed by long-lived acquired immune protection. Both of the above proposals will effectively contribute to building herd immunity, which is the one and only solution to tame a pandemic. Or are the stakeholders of the current mass vaccination program still convinced that – contrary to all scientific evidence – it is mass vaccination that will ultimately end up generating herd immunity and that the virus will spontaneously tone down its virulence, regardless of all immune and infectious pressure currently exerted by the increasingly vaccinated and virus-exposed population, respectively? As the original pandemic is now more and more evolving towards a pandemic of more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants, we have no choice but to immediately implement a pancontinental intervention with broadly effective antivirals and early multi-drug treatment. Given the enhanced evolutionary context of this pandemic, there is no longer any place for non-sterilizing vaccines, let alone for using such vaccines in mass vaccination campaigns. |
Lets assume for a moment that everyone on each side of this thread has said everything they have to say. Wouldnt everyone agree at this stage of the game that posters likely arent going to change anyone’s position. Therefore, from here on, if someone repeats something theyve already said they must have a different need to fill. They either have a desperate need to say something or they have a desperate need to be heard. One side ask the other to be vaxx...Or to shut his mouth.... The other side ask to think BEFORE being vaxx...Dont want to shut his mouth contemplating undemocratic action of corporations... I dont know but i prefer those who think before acting... In my case the "different need to fill" is discussing with friends...I am retired ... Ending the thread which is an interesting one, with tacos, so good they are is not an option... Perhaps some other people will have something to say....i Will listen... Anyway with all there is on the world scene , discussing digital or tubes is less interesting for me... And my audio system is satisfying.... I am here for the people not for learning audio anymore... Job done... Anyway acoustic is less complex than the Covid crisis and take less time to figure it out generally , then i dont expect most people here will take the time needed to understand the covid crisis, and very few poster in audio thread understand acoustic powerful action anyway .... They prefer to upgrade.... i prefer to listen.... 😊😁😎😊 Money only dont buy Hi-Fi, acoustic knowledge do it.... Vaxx only dont solve coronavirus crisis Vaxx + early treatment could do... |
