Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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learsfool , I have heard that several times and it is a joy to hear .
Have you heard the other great one out of Canada ,Kenneth Gilbert on harpsichord ?Gilbert says in the liner notes that he sees it as Bach's "Art of the Dance .
He makes a solid case for that in terms I would think any serious pro musician would like to read .Ever for the likes of me I thought the liner notes alone were worth the costof harmoniamundi  HMX2951240 .
Wouldn't be surprised if Canadian Brass  knew of his thoughts .
Nice to hear that rv.  He was a very good conductor but the magic was the love the Halle had for him and he for them . They knew what he wanted and went all-out to give it to him .
I just recalled an interview of Arrau I heard on German TV  that has stuck with me . He was outspoken !

Exact words escape me but this is about it." In Music you have to give all you have in every performance . That's why Masur is a great conductor and Fisher-Dieskau  is not a great singer."   

That is/was nothing short of heresy in Germany .
I heard Arrau live 4-5 times , left me wanting no other .

I had the Schiff cello sonatas and you are spot on jim.
These days i do listen to the profoundly of Fournier because he relaxes me .A great one by Maria Kliegel playing a Strad cello On Naxos seems near flawless to me . Like everything recorded in Budapest , ditto for the sound .

I don’t recall hearing the suites in person , but for me the greatest recording is Anner Blylsma on period instrument .
Everyone says things they don't really mean for various reasons at various times .If I knew what you do, I would not have posted it .

Mea Culpa .
I do ,all you mention and many more . People , most of all Americans  , think  things just progress as time goes bye , Not so. .
Try Handel's Airs , sinfonias and instrumental music with Andreas Scholl and the Berlin Akademie Fur Al Alte Musik . Stunning !
Try Josquin Desprez  on anything .
Brendel is among the most intellectual musicians alive .

I really enjoyed his tomes ,"Alfred Brendel On Music" and " Music , Sense and Nonsense"  .
7-Eleven will chase more young people away than the homeless .
I have considerable experience with the homeless , you'd be surprised how many like classical .
I bow to your great knowledge RV .
To my hears she is playing Chopin and the Band Tchaikovsky .Of course just my broken down old ears .
The same old story , sad to say, sex sells .
rv, at our age what we hear is largely what memory the brain has stored of a given LIVE piece ,.aka garbage in garbage out .
And how some conductors are better then ever into their 90’s aka Herbert Blomstedt .
And why present generations will become essentially robots .
True  rv, but I fear it will be of the same kind that the nutjob above loves .
gregm, I can see with your Mahler suggestions you will be a big help on here !


As a Brahms lover the Curzon -Szell is quite good but IMO the sound leaves a lot to be desired .My favorites are a masterpiece with Nelson Freire and the Vienna PO under the great Sir John Barbirolli on Decca .
A sleeper is Daniel Barenboim on EMI with Ricardo Chailly and the Gewandhaus Orch. Great performance with beautiful sound .
rv, listened to the whole op. 130  on Adagio . The Danish are outstanding !
Ever since I got the iconic Yale vinyl of the last Qts . 40 odd years ago I have thought they were the greatest of LvB  .
Just so, just so jim ! When I knew most of the players of the Berlin R.I..A.S ,
Blomstedt often filled in and the players really and truly loved him . He was open to what they thought .
He is a pious Christian and radiates love towards all .

I treasure his 2017 DVD of Bach’s "Mass in b Minor" which Blomstedt sees as Bach’s greatest piece .Both the Dresden Kammerchor and Gewandhaus Leipzig give him their all .I have heard good recordings of this by non-believers, but a true believer just gives more at all levels .
jim , I can understand you feelings about religion . Heaven knows it is often the first choice of scoundrels of every stripe . I was agnostic myself in my youth.
What the light for me was I had two near-death bouts .In both ,as I came back, I realized that it was not that I was not afraid, but  that
I had been in a place where fear did not exist .There were other signs as well , but that peace was beyond words .
The phrase most used in the Bible is "be not afraid." .




jim , what happens here is not a blink of the eye in infinity .
Current Christian theology is of a mind  there is no hell , just heaven and nothing , And that you can go to latter with you wish to do so  with your last breath .I fully except to see you there .

P.S . I am fully aware of Knox and his minions , just don't let them win .
Does anyone else listen to "Pipedreams " the wonderful 2 hour organ program
that is broadcast by American Public Media out of its St. Paul studios live every Sunday ?
6 to 8 AM in St Paul sadly .
IMO Ivan Fisher is the greatest conductor alive when leading  his Budapest
Festival .
To me Richter got both the tempo and voicing right,  the way Ravel wrote  his "Pavane"  , one of the beautiful pieces ever written , to be played on piano . orchestra, or anything else .


Would like opinion of rv or anyone else .  This clip was taken in Moscow during a flu epidemic .Correction is welcomed !
https://youtu.be/WsdnHaz90Fw?t=3
You should hear the acoustics rv !jim, I have heard them and they are indeed wonderful .
The Pavane has at least a hundred clips on you tube of various combos for the spell-binder .
Here is my choice , one instrument playing some of the most spellbinding music I have ever heard . https://youtu.be/YZVqZnq7F4o?t=3
Hint, use best headphones.
Jim, you never stop me from being amazed with your encyclopedic
knowledge of all things classical pianistic


One man in a hundred thousand !I send you a clip of a man among the very best singers and human beings every born in the USA, who was also beloved in Scotia and Wales.

Wouldn’t surprise me if you have seen it or him , but just in case.......
P.S . Joe hill was the greatest US Unionist of American miners , was charged with murder of someone in Utah , our most conservative state, and was hung in a matter of days .
https://youtu.be/B0bezsMVU7c?t=4


How beloved he was in Wales .

https://youtu.be/H1hLPRnmAjw?t=6   { press the left bottom v starter not the big red one on top)
True ,jcazador,I listen to the Ravel A minor on idagio.Wanted my own but 60$ + for a new one .The Music from Mahlboro  Laredo/lLaredo/Solow at 12 bucks is pretty good
but below  Richter etc .
The Hagen is outstanding and , for me , the LvB Quartets are all I have
time from him these days , which I guess is saying I see them as his best .


One of the best records I ever had is the Yale Qt, doing them.Al least on vinyl they are very rare and have seen them go for 500 $ bucks .I believe there was a CD as well which I have never head , or plan to .

If money is an object the Complete CD’s on Naxos with Kodaly Qt. are very good , The Great Op 130 is better than that .
Here’s a nice outing by the Glasgow Philharmonic you won’t hear streaming .
Dia beanachadib Alba                The de facto Scottish National Anthem.


https://youtu.be/iYOBFj8jhS8?t=2 IMO, Scottish Pipes are a classical instrument .
https://youtu.be/a9nZ_qqf70I?list=RDa9nZ_qqf70I&t=3

That was also the opinion of my three grandparents born in Scotland .
Jim , If I knew 1/10 of what you know in keyboard , I ’d know twice what
I do know .

In Early Music ........................


Hear is a "Tree "https://youtu.be/vOHekLZD5i4?t=2

Off hand Jim , I’d say the English-Speaking land with the least blood on her hands is Canada .Gave the natives some bad times but no mass genocide and has tried hard to make amends . Nobody else has . I respect Canada .


I would call England  worse, or was the worse . I believe Scotland was just cannon fodder, but was proud of it because it had little else . What else is Scotland The Brave ? But as they say, We’re all Jock Tamson’s bairns

rv, I finally got around to the Ozawa/Zimmerman Rach 1 st..
Is everything you said it was . To be honest he has always been a peripheral composer to me , more because of time than anything else .
Bach has always taken at least 1/3 of my listening time since the first note. Put in Brahms , Schubert and early music and well over 50% .

That said , I saw another rendition of Rach 1 with Leif Ove Andsnes and the BerlinerPhil , listened , and it seemed right up there as well .
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I also have the Vanguard LP , an absolute gem!I buy ANY Vanguard I see , period .
The "Great Recording of the Century " Mahler 6th with Sir John Barbirolli
and the New Phil  lives up tothe title . On adigio with the bonus of R.Strauss
"Metamorphosen" 

This is what can be done with very young children and nobody else does it !

https://youtu.be/IcsgOIAcypQ?list=RDIcsgOIAcypQ&t=1
There are two bands with an add between . Second is full Symphonic playing wonderful with no sheets , a miracle from ELEMENTARY  kids !!!!
Shame on the rest of us .
Aye Jim .

These Cape Breton fiddlers, of which there are many, are in a class of their own .Cape Breton in general is more Scottish than Scotland

https://youtu.be/RzP_kIXsuvA?t=13
A stellar rendition of one of the very greatest Chamber pieces . The piece itself is beyond comment .
May not be otherwise be recorded ?
https://youtu.be/g3k81__bwrM?t=13
The biggest mistake people and societies  make is in believing what comes after is superior to what went before , True for music as much as anything else .
Slight picture of that .
https://youtu.be/Wa2vzx-aNrw?t=3
ei001h, thanks for such a very fine post !
Volodos and Richter are certainly great on Schubert !
My hears tell me , at least on the masterwork D 959, that Imogen Copper is more "Schubertish " .
She is one of the top Schubertians in the world .Is on idagio .
I don’t think that cut is on the Coopers 2009 . I will try to see what is what .I have all the Kempff vinyl myself, still love and play them .
I’ve read several tomes lately by scholars who are coming to believe we have just begun to understand the genius that was/is Schubert.
AYE , say I .



Cooper was in St .Paul last year under the auspices of the Schubert Club
which is old ladies with old money who bring the best artists to a 350 man Hall
at Macalester College . ( Founded by Scots in 1800’s.)This is one of THE best private liberal college colleges in the USA .And millions have been spent on their Hall’s acoustics which are superb .

Her program was mostly Haydn and Cooper really woke me up on that !She is a very powerful player , at times I thought the ghost of Arrau was in the house .

P.S . The old girls brought us the pride of Scotland last spring , Nicola Benedetti . Sadly I was under the weather .

Thanks Jim .  What she does for Scotland should get her a Victoria Cross .
I doubt if any other top musician would  take the risk of changing their fingering to make a record honoring the folk music of their  native land !

Thanks jczador . Never new that!
Nothing is off topic if you want to say it .
I'm sticking with Imogene for late Schubert .But I have heard Volodos recently on FM doing some Brahms that just might displace Lupu . Unreal .
Thanks Jim . I am glad to see little Andy  do his expose on the Royal Racket.How Brits can play that game in this day and age is completely beyond me !
If you got a year playing the majestic Renaissance music Jim , you did and got more than 99% of the human race !
I am very impressed and wish I had 10%  of the creative heart you have.