@audioconnection Well the only reason i would get back to Thiel CS 3.7s is if i purchased a Gryphon Antileon Evo and CH Precision L1 linestage.This is well within my budget since Thiel CS 3.7s only cost 6k used today.I still think i would get better performance with a much more modern combo like Borresen 03s driven by Audionet Humboldt integrated.