In my opinion the B&W 801 series II is a much better speaker, but the Yamaha NS1000 is a better match with your amplifier.
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The 801's are very power hungry. You will not get what this speaker has to offer unless it is mated to a high current ss amp. I was running a pair with a Bryston 4B (250w) and the sound was ok, but when I added another 4B and ran them as monoblocks into the 801's did the music really shine. They also need to be on a good stand, in a big enough room to open up and are fussy with placement. Taken all that into account, they are big and bold with a non fatiguing presentation when mated with a tube preamp. I don't have any experiencer with the Yamaha speaker. |
Garylim you will hear many things from audiophiles about the 801s. Some are true some are not. I would listen to actual owners and ask about their setups. One thing true IMO is that this 801 is not a plug and play speaker. This means you will need experience and time. The first will come with the latter but patience is needed. Many audiophiles lack patience if I look at my friends. With me its not that I have a alot of patience but I am more stubborn. For this reason alone I would skip on them unless you have patience - it could become a slippery road. I have no experience with the Yamahas. FWIW I have known around 12 - 801 owners personally. Half from this group made the speaker their last, some with modifications. The other half moved on. Of the remaining ones many are now running a tube pre and amp/s. This was all that was needed for a few of them to eliminate the ESL speaker setup in the other room. You will not get what this speaker has to offer unless it is mated to a high current ss amp. Zenblaster what amps have your tried other than a 4b? The 4bs had one good trait with me. Control of the woofer. But they lost it on the mid/tweeter. And I am a Canadian that does not want to bad mouth another Canadian company. Based on my experiences I would rephrase your statement to say "quality power" amp instead of high current SS amp. It covers more bases IMO. I know some that listen at low db with their 801's. This is possible with a tube amp too. So 801s need quality power whether SS or tube. The better the power quality gets - the better they keep sounding. I have not hit their limits yet in my room. Based on my experience they sound really good on a quality 75-100 watt tube amp that is capable at 4 ohms. Garylim I have owned my current S3 since 94-95 and 801fs prior to that. A good reference site I can recommend. John Bowers BAF It will make you understand how the 800 matrix series were designed by John Bowers to be run in a sixth-order Butterworth alignment. Some owners have chosen other BAF's. Krell, Northcreek, custom. I am considering the third option as a final step for me. I have also provided a number of observations on my 801 ownership on my virtual page if you do choose them. Look for Winnie the Pooh. Cheers and Good luck. A big Hello to other 801 owners here. I think its time we were more vocal guys. Someone start an 801 owners thread I would participate ? I have yet to find a speaker that brings this kind of energy into my room that wont cost me a second mortgage. |
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