ARC LS-27 or ARC ref-3

Taters, I strongly advise you to make a decision ASAP. There's an LS 27 listed for sale on A'gon right now for about $5300! They don't hang around for long. Ref 3s are also posted for sale from time to time for about the same bucks.

I used to own the Ref 3. It is very very good. I now own the Ref 5. I really enjoyed my Ref 3, but I think the Ref 5 is a bit more refined and detailed. Bass is tighter; top end a bit more open.

I mention this because I understand that the LS 27 is a baby Ref 5. I don't know how the Ref 3 and LS 27 stack up against each other. I belive there are a couple of threads on the Forum which discuss this very issue. I suggest that you read the threads to learn what other members have posted. Then I would call Cal at ARC and ask his advice first thing Monday AM. He is very helpful and can help you make an informed decision.

But as I said, used LS 27s don't hang around for long, so "pull the trigger" quickly if you go the LS 27 route.

Please let us know what you decide.

Woooaaah. Bifwynne--why such urgency in your post? This isn't a race. I'm sure both pieces are nice and the differences between them are relatively small. ARC sells lots of units and updates their product line with (some say too frequent) regularity. Taters, I'd suggest taking your time, enjoying what you have, gathering opinions here and elsewhere and, most importantly, trying to audition both units (ideally in your own system) before making a decision. Enjoy the journey for crying out loud! Undoubtedly the price will come down while you are patiently making an informed choice and you will be more certain you did the right thing once you have the new preamp inserted in your system. Then you can begin thinking about your next upgrade!

I'd choose the REF3 if it were my money.

If you can't rob a bank for the ref5, go for the ls27. It's a wonderful piece.

Dodge. . . , the only reason why I counsel decisiveness is because LS 27s don't come around very often. Ref 3s do. The LS 27 currently for sale is practically brand new. If Taters is a serious buyer and is really trying to decide between these two pieces, I would NOT take my time. Of course, IMHO.