I heard the Rays at the Tokyo Int. Audio Show, 2010. As they were set-up, I thought they were the best sounding speakers of the show, bar none, and price irrelevant. Really natural sound. I organized and had a home demo with the local distributor in Japan, but they didn't suit my smallish room and/or system (McIntosh amp) I had at the time so well. I was very disappointed with that, because I knew what the speakers were capable of if set-up right, but wifey wasn't impressed, so no-go. At the show, the speakers were well out in the room, far from walls, if that was a critical factor. I don't know what they were driving them with at the show. The Rays are obviously extremely capable speakers in the right set-up.